hawkinn3
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Pretty sure a dictionary would give one the meaning of fascist. Also, I was referring to the quote itself which gives no indication of who or what is being quoted.
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Pretty sure a dictionary would give one the meaning of fascist. Also, I was referring to the quote itself which gives no indication of who or what is being quoted.
Fryowa
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Sure you were. Nice backtrack attempt (it didn't work).
You suggested he get a dictionary to learn how to use quotes. Those are your words verbatim.
You should quit while you're ahead, Francis. And make sure you don't F up any grammar lest I have to call it out. Fair is fair, right?
Ree4
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Socialism number one I guess? People who hate socialism and "Democratic Socialists" really seem to love the military and the police..
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hawkdrummer1
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Socialism
noun
- a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
"Community" ownership and control of everything is quite something else. If you did well in history, you know how that usually works out.
Ree4
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Thanks for proving my point. The existence of publicly "controlled" and funded military and police force is indeed a socialist policy. The military structure itself is a form of Command Control Socialism where the very top has ultimate authority over the lower echelons. It is 100% funded by taxpayers and provides a benefit to all, same with the police force (I'm sure BLM would argue this point). The military also benefits from affordable food, housing, tuition AND universal health care - as they should.
The definition you copy/pasta'd is pure socialism. I have not seen a single advocate for the US to become that. You and others are intentionally muddying the waters and impoverishing our vocabulary. This lack of understanding has led to fearmongering and red-baiting against any type of social welfare programs. Sorry, as somebody who has a Master's degree in Economic Policy and has studied all kinds of policies extensively, I strongly disagree with that "watered down" and simplistic version of the thousands of varieties of societal policy types. Every country in the world has some form of socialist policies, obviously including the US. Currently the US is strongly moving toward an Oligarch Socialist economy. Why do people have no complaints about that? Contrary to popular belief as many of you are still reeling from the Red Scare, the USSR was more of a Centrist Capitalist Society than it was a Socialist one.
The misinformation from all sources left and right and the overall laziness of people to do any research beyond the first entry of their google search percolates into every issue this country faces.
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hawkdrummer1
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I agree with your last sentence wholeheartedly.
The rest... yes and no. A bit of reaching and interpretation in there.
I do appreciate that you seem to strive for balance. That too, is rare.
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Ree4
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The best society is one that achieves a fair balance. There will never be a country that is 100% capitalist or 100% socialist. While the two don't run directly counter to each other as most would believe, certain social policies serve to keep some capitalist policies in check, such as child labor laws and minimum wages. In absence of a governing body do you think corporations would pass those laws to defend their workers? As somebody who works for a bank I'm well aware of regulations used to keep us in check, without which - well, you know what would happen.
ForeverHawk
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Weird, I thought this was going to be a discussion on the Big 10 vote or no vote on the 2020 season. I instead see it got hijacked like most of the threads on this site and has morphed into a yet another political debate. I akin this site to the Titanic. “Iceberg straight ahead!”
Fryowa
Administrator
Yet you keep coming back.
Like a moron who sees he’s headed straight for an iceberg but doesn’t steer himself out of the way, even though he’s totally capable of avoiding it.
Hmm...
ForeverHawk
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I figured one of a handful of people would respond, you being one of them. Thanks for not letting me down.
Fryowa
Administrator
Anytime. Glad to be one of the reasons you don't like this site, but for the life of me I can't figure out why you come back. Is it just an insecure need to be heard? Temper tantrum? It seems like maybe you have some itch in your life that you need to have scratched.
I mean, a normal person without any sociopathic tendencies would probably stop visiting a place he didn't like rather than returning over and over.
But either way, welcome back.
RobHowe
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Trying to stick to sports during a period where we’re going to go maybe 8-9 months without Iowa football or basketball games is unrealistic.
We’ve gone off the rails at times. I’ll take responsibility for some of that. It’s been a crazy year with heated discussion on several topics where sports, politics and social issues collide.
I think we’ve settled in recently and have had respectful conversation, which includes this thread. It’s not going to be a place for everybody but no place is for everybody.
We’ve gone off the rails at times. I’ll take responsibility for some of that. It’s been a crazy year with heated discussion on several topics where sports, politics and social issues collide.
I think we’ve settled in recently and have had respectful conversation, which includes this thread. It’s not going to be a place for everybody but no place is for everybody.
ForeverHawk
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I can respect this! Maybe we should go back to just a political page to separate it from sports. Maybe it exists, I haven’t checked. That’s not why I visit here.
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Northside Hawk
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Mayhem could be Secretary of Transportation.
