Brady Reiff Arrested?

HawkGold said:
Reiff knew the law. He is not a victim. He willingly broke the law and knew team consequences. (The nepotism issue is a whole other issue).

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You're confusing legality with morality. He most definitely is the victim. He was being peaceful and trying to find a responsible way home.
 
The ICPD has zero tolerance, much less a sense of humor regarding college kids. I respect the police, but this could have been handled so much better by them. Ferentz had the opportunity to point out that this was different from past brushes with the law by Hawkeyes, but instead applied the broad brush. This was poor judgement by a college student, but c'mon they're not monks, this is not Brigham Young, college kids are going to party.
 
tksirius said:
You're confusing legality with morality. He most definitely is the victim. He was being peaceful and trying to find a responsible way home.
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No confusion at all. First of all none of us know whether he was being peaceful. At that stage of inebriation, he is a danger to himself and society. He could stumble or crawl into traffic causing an accident or cause physical or emotional harm to whoever might hit him with a car.

When you are .2 or above you cannot be called responsible. Did he call Uber or did someone else? Did he actually call or did he think he called? With rising medical costs damaging the US economy if he got hit or hit his head do you want to be responsible for his medical care from his drunkiness injuries in public? What does it take now to be privately insured as an individual? $650 per month for a 10K deductible? If he gets hit by a car what does it take, 20K to 100K or more to care for him?

Drink yourself all you want up to a point in your home or under someone's care and that's different.

A guy who registered .44 drove into my yard thinking he was driving in his driveway. They shocked him
5 times going to the hospital when his heart would stop. It was below zero and I saved him from going into shock when the dumbass officer let him lie in my yard waiting for the ambulance. He died of alcohol poisoning a year later.

Being .2 or higher in public is not harmless to the person or to the public.
 
tksirius said:
You're confusing legality with morality. He most definitely is the victim. He was being peaceful and trying to find a responsible way home.
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Hawk90 said:
The ICPD has zero tolerance, much less a sense of humor regarding college kids. I respect the police, but this could have been handled so much better by them. Ferentz had the opportunity to point out that this was different from past brushes with the law by Hawkeyes, but instead applied the broad brush. This was poor judgement by a college student, but c'mon they're not monks, this is not Brigham Young, college kids are going to party.
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I don't have so much of a problem that he got busted (as a police department you can't really give a FB player a pass because the SJWs would eat you alive in the enws and on twitter.

WHat I have a problem with is people thinking it's a big deal. I don't think he should even be suspended. Yeah he was drunk in public and it's against the law. But when you look at intent, he wasn't fighting or driving, and he was trying not to drive. Lety the kid pay his fine, read the scripted apology, and get on with it.

I guess I look at it as if it were my kid. If he called me and said he got a public intox for puking in an Olive Garden or telling a cop to F off, or showing up to work drunk I'd be pissed and tell him he needs to sit in the klink for a while and walk home.

If he called me and said he got a PI because he got drunk and thought a cop car was his Uber (because he didn't want to drive), I'm gonna tell him, "Thank you. You're a dumb ass, but thank you for trying to do the right thing." Pay the fine and get the F on with your life.
 
HawkGold said:
No confusion at all. First of all none of us know whether he was being peaceful. At that stage of inebriation, he is a danger to himself and society. He could stumble or crawl into traffic causing an accident or cause physical or emotional harm to whoever might hit him with a car.

When you are .2 or above you cannot be called responsible. Did he call Uber or did someone else? Did he actually call or did he think he called? With rising medical costs damaging the US economy if he got hit or hit his head do you want to be responsible for his medical care from his drunkiness injuries in public? What does it take now to be privately insured as an individual? $650 per month for a 10K deductible? If he gets hit by a car what does it take, 20K to 100K or more to care for him?

Drink yourself all you want up to a point in your home or under someone's care and that's different.

A guy who registered .44 drove into my yard thinking he was driving in his driveway. They shocked him
5 times going to the hospital when his heart would stop. It was below zero and I saved him from going into shock when the dumbass officer let him lie in my yard waiting for the ambulance. He died of alcohol poisoning a year later.

Being .2 or higher in public is not harmless to the person or to the public.
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Whatever you say, BBQ Becky.
 
HawkGold said:
A guy who registered .44 drove into my yard thinking he was driving in his driveway. They shocked him
5 times going to the hospital when his heart would stop. It was below zero and I saved him from going into shock when the dumbass officer let him lie in my yard waiting for the ambulance. He died of alcohol poisoning a year later.

Being .2 or higher in public is not harmless to the person or to the public.
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Jesus Christ. You really do have a one-upped story for every situation to back up your ridiculousness don't you?

You've just done it all and seen it all. Farming, teaching, psychiatry, coached several sports, reffed several sports, rhabdo expert, attorney, addiction counselor, dietitian, foreclosed on a family who had a tractor accident, saved a drunk man's life who drove his car into your yard...

You're a regular fucking Walter Mitty...
 
Fryowa said:
Jesus Christ. You really do have a one-upped story for every situation to back up your ridiculousness don't you?

You've just done it all and seen it all. Farming, teaching, psychiatry, coached several sports, reffed several sports, rhabdo expert, attorney, addiction counselor, dietitian, foreclosed on a family who had a tractor accident, saved a drunk man's life who drove his car into your yard...

You're a regular fucking Walter Mitty...
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I knew a guy who blew a .28 on an AlcoHawk portable breathalyzer test at halftime of the Iowa-Illinois game in 2008. He drank beers and the better part of a 375 of Crown in the parking lot before the game and hadn't been drinking for over an hour at the time of the test. Despite that alleged level of inebriation, he was smart enough to know that Norm calling the 3 down lineman prevent defense would lead to a sure loss against Illinois on that final drive.

How do I know that guy? He is me.
 
okeefe4prez said:
I knew a guy who blew a .28 on an AlcoHawk portable breathalyzer test at halftime of the Iowa-Illinois game in 2008. He drank beers and the better part of a 375 of Crown in the parking lot before the game and hadn't been drinking for over an hour at the time of the test. Despite that alleged level of inebriation, he was smart enough to know that Norm calling the 3 down lineman prevent defense would lead to a sure loss against Illinois on that final drive.

How do I know that guy? He is me.
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OMG!!

What if you "stumbled or crawled into traffic causing an accident or caused physical or emotional harm to whoever might have hit you with a car?"
 
Fryowa said:
Jesus Christ. You really do have a one-upped story for every situation to back up your ridiculousness don't you?

You've just done it all and seen it all. Farming, teaching, psychiatry, coached several sports, reffed several sports, rhabdo expert, attorney, addiction counselor, dietitian, foreclosed on a family who had a tractor accident, saved a drunk man's life who drove his car into your yard...

You're a regular fucking Walter Mitty...
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We'd be twins if I had the drawl you pretend to have.
 
tksirius said:
OMG!!

What if you "stumbled or crawled into traffic causing an accident or caused physical or emotional harm to whoever might have hit you with a car?"
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What if I had fallen from the upper deck onto the lower deck and landed on a woman who was pregnant with 8 kids and caused complications and then on the way to the hospital the ambulance was t-boned by a Jimmy haulin' hogs and then the hogs didn't get to the slaughterhouse on time and a family of 14 missed out on their Christmas ham causing them to starve to death? I could have probably killed like 25 people in that hypothetical.
 
okeefe4prez said:
What if I had fallen from the upper deck onto the lower deck and landed on a woman who was pregnant with 8 kids and caused complications and then on the way to the hospital the ambulance was t-boned by a Jimmy haulin' hogs and then the hogs didn't get to the slaughterhouse on time and a family of 14 missed out on their Christmas ham causing them to starve to death? I could have probably killed like 25 people in that hypothetical.
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I think you deserve a one game suspension.
 
HawkGold said:
We'd be twins if I had the drawl you pretend to have.
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That's it?

No diagnosis? You're not going to tell me how you knew a guy just like me in your home town who was so salty and negative and beat his wife and kids (probably paranoid-schizophrenic with mania and narcissistic tendencies) and how you drug him out of a burning building in April of '91 which only happened because you forgot milk and had to run back to the store and saw the fire, but he was ungrateful and ended up drinking himself to death after being prosecuted under an obscure and little known clause of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1978 that, had he consulted with you, you could have acquitted him from?
 
:rolleyes:
Fryowa said:
That's it?

No diagnosis? You're not going to tell me how you knew a guy just like me in your home town who was so salty and negative and beat his wife and kids (probably paranoid-schizophrenic with mania and narcissistic tendencies) and how you drug him out of a burning building in April of '91 which only happened because you forgot milk and had to run back to the store and saw the fire, but he was ungrateful and ended up drinking himself to death after being prosecuted under an obscure and little known clause of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1978 that, had he consulted with you, you could have acquitted him from?
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No, but I knew you'd have something to say about it. Here is a self help site.:rolleyes:
https://www.buoyhealth.com/symptoms-a-z/excessive-talking/
 
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