HawkPrdatr40
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Spot on!!
Bluder's Bunch
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Spot on!!
loesshillshawk
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I don't care at what level...to prove yourself all season long. Then get rewarded with a high seed...then get screwed by going to the lower seeds home court is a screw job PERIOD...in any sport.
SDK46
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No...that was wrong too.
DeputyHawk
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Either way it was a great game to watch. Gonna miss Kachine!
BradBanks02
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Gonzaga takes down UCLA....
BradBanks02
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Utah St was ranked in the top 20 for the men and got a 12 seed.
tm3308
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And Iowa WBB under Viv = Iowa men's BB under Lute.
It still amazes me how the university managed to botch everything about Bill's death. Pretty embarrassing, the way they handled it.
I wouldn't quite say that, though I think I know what you mean. The Hawks have been very explosive the last couple of years when they get hot. Lets not forget we kicked the crap out of ISU and OSU when we were on our game.
IMHO, we've had depth problems the last several years due to injuries and coach Bluder's preference for small rosters, not to mention Machado's family illness which forced her transfer. This has meant we've struggled against deep, talented teams.
When OSU lost a starting forward, they simply put their #2 post in the lineup and became instantly much tougher. We don't have a #2 post (Cermack did a nice job of covering, but she just isn't a B10 post). When Nesbitt was down with a foot injury and Printy had to back up the point, her game suffered.
On the upside, we'll have a full roster of 15 next season, with most of our scoring returning. Good opportunity to finish high in the B10 and go deep in the tournament, I think.
hawkIhoops
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Did you see the crowd Gonzaga had last night for their game against UCLA? I don't know how many fans that place holds, but it had to be pretty close to a sellout. ESPN did a live look in for the last minute and the place was rocking and I believe I heard 11K as the attendance. UCLA, a 3 seed also played there, so all this crying about where the game was played is one of the reasons women's b=ball is a non sport IMO. Suck it up and go beat them then. The women couldn't win at CHA a couple years ago either when G'Tech bounced them.
There wouldn't have been 5K at Carver had the game been here, so I think the NCAA made the right choice.
The Gonzaga gym only seats 6000 people so there were not 11 000 people there last night. I didnt watch and it was probably packed, as it was for Iowa game.
You are right in that there would probably have been only 5-6000 at CHA as well. Hopefully Iowa fans will figure it out sooner or later.
You are right in that there would probably have been only 5-6000 at CHA as well. Hopefully Iowa fans will figure it out sooner or later.
imported_ankle23
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vandersloot only player in women's history to score 2000 points and 1000 assists....
Gonzaga Bulldogs vs. UCLA Bruins - Recap - March 21, 2011 - ESPN
Gonzaga Bulldogs vs. UCLA Bruins - Recap - March 21, 2011 - ESPN
tm3308
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Our biggest need is getting another post or two. Johnson is going to be very good, but we need to have two post players with good height. Most good teams have two. Our backcourt is very good, and could possibly get even better in the next year or two.
tm3308
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Really, that's why it's a non-sport? You don't think there would be b*tching and moaning if, say, Ohio State would have to play UNC at Chapel Hill in the Elite Eight? There's a reason that the NCAA doesn't have the men's teams play home games in the tournament. I know the women don't because it doesn't draw as well. But while it's true that the men do draw crowds, they aren't forced to play at neutral sites. They choose to because it's fair.
Knight78
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Well, in truth the wouldn't have had 5-6000 in Carver Hawkeye Arena because of the construction going on there.
DesMoinesHawki
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I think Iowa women's basketball has peaked under Bluder. I think each year she will have a "nice" ballclub and nothing more. Too many years she had had loads of talent returning only to finish in the 20-win column. And that is "nice," but that is about all this program will be ... Iowa manages to do okay in the Big 10 but put them up against some of the heavies and they don't stand a chance ... There is a big difference in women's basketball when it comes to parity ...
tm3308
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I'm going to reserve judgement on that one for a couple more years. The recruiting class she has coming in is VERY good, and I'm eager to see what she's able to do with it while she still has Printy, Johnson, Wahlin, etc.
imported_ankle23
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Tom Davis called, he wants to speak to you.
And you are right about big differences in parity. Do you think the next coach will make Iowa the next UCONN? If not, who do you want Iowa to be?
There is two or three major players in women's bball and then everyone else. We are everyone else, just like everyone else. We happen to be able to win 20 games and get to the ncaa tourney. This year, we were unlucky with our placement.
tm3308
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If Stringer came back, then I think we could get back to the level that we were at when she was last here. But she is the only elite coach that would ever even remotely consider coming here now. And that would be a pipe dream, at best.
bandgrocks
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I'd swear Keith Garber and the staff at the Wayne County Hospital dropped you when you were born.
The Elite Eight games ARE NEVER played on a teams home court. This practice was stopped in the late 90's. And, yes the men are FORCED to play at neutral sites. Here's a little comparison for you - games played tonight at neutral sites and their attendance:
Oklahoma vs Miami @ Charlottesville, VA 1362 (note the Sunday session had 3763 people, making the average game attendance for three games 1708 people)
Georgia vs Florida State @ Auburn, AL 2214
Green Bay vs Michigan State @ Wichita, KS 4242 (GB travels VERY well, and Wichita has never hosted a women's NCAA tourney before)
Rutgers vs Texas A&M @ Shrevport, LA 2146 (4 hour drive from College Station)
Average attendance at neutral sites - 2491 people
Games played on a home teams floor:
Louisville @ Xavier 4065
Georgetown @ Maryland 4493
Purdue @ UConn 5729
West Virginia @ Baylor 8436
Average attendance - 5680 people
How many times can it be told - the women's tourney has ALWAYS played their first and second round games on someone's home floor. The coaches VOTED to keep it this way because they want to play in front of a crowd, and it's a reward for earning a top seed (just like in the men's tourney with Duke in Charlotte, OSU in Cleveland, KS in Tulsa, and Pitt in DC, and you'll notice the same thing for the # 2 seeds UNC in Charlotte, Florida in Tampa, Notre Dame in Chicago, and SDSU in Tuscon). You tell me how fun would it be to play in front of 1362 fans in an arena that hold 14356 people? You can get that many in the Wayne HS gymnasium. Even the few years when the women did the POD system, the host institution still got to play at the site they were hosting.
Take a look at the scores from last night and tonight:
DePaul beat Penn State in University Park - PSU # 6 seed / DePaul # 3
Louisville beat Xavier in Cincinnati - LV # 7 seed / Xavier # 2
Georgetown beat Maryland in College Park - GTown # 5 / MD # 4
The bids for 2011 were done in 2009, the NCAA picked 16 sites, and those hosted. Iowa has hosted eight times, but people seem to forget that fact.
Having followed the Iowa women for 25 years, I been there for a lot of highs (22k + vs. Ohio State in 1985 in CHA, the final four in 1993 where we were this close to playing for a national championship, to the Angie Lee years where we just plain sucked at the end). Bluder has the program solid, but in all her years, she still has yet to ever get past the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney and for the talent we've had, it's just plain disappointing.
