Bison getting all they can handle from Charleston So.

I am trying to figure out what to take from this game. Right now, I would say Iowa will make them throw a lot more than what they want.
 
I thought I was going to get to see something fabulous. The way they talk about them they are so head and shoulders above everybody I guess I was expecting a blowout. I don't think their run game will be a huge factor. They will probably improve these next couple of weeks and play the best game in their history against the Hawks.
 
I never really felt that NDSU was going to lose that game. They did almost gift wrapped a win for CHSO with that pick toward the end of the game, but that was the only shot they had.

I wasn't really impressed with NDSU, and I think that the problem they are going to have with Iowa is they like to play like Iowa. They want to line it up and punish you, and that isn't going to work against Iowa's front 7. I was more worried about Ill. St. last year, as they ran a spread that gives Iowa much more problems than when they face a downhill running team.
 
deanvogs said:
I never really felt that NDSU was going to lose that game. They did almost gift wrapped a win for CHSO with that pick toward the end of the game, but that was the only shot they had.

I wasn't really impressed with NDSU, and I think that the problem they are going to have with Iowa is they like to play like Iowa. They want to line it up and punish you, and that isn't going to work against Iowa's front 7. I was more worried about Ill. St. last year, as they ran a spread that gives Iowa much more problems than when they face a downhill running team.
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Yeah I agree with you Dean. This doesn't necessarily mean anything, but Illinois State beat that Charleston Southern team pretty handily last year in the FCS playoffs. The same Illinois State team that Iowa handled last year.

My biggest takeaway from watching NDSU Saturday night was that I was unimpressed with their line. They dominated in the trenches last year. Just simply pushed people around. They had their way with Iowa State. Plus Wentz was a better runner and more accurate passer than Stick is. I believe they also lost their best RB from a year ago, however, this King Frazier guy did play quite a bit.

I think your breakdown is spot on. They won't be able to run against Iowa's front seven. Stick will be forced to pass and he isn't accurate enough to lead them to a win through the air without having a rushing attack to keep the defense off balance. I do expect NDSU to keep getting better though. They have a good coaching staff and that seems to be the way they operate. They keep improving each week and end up being damn good at the end of the season.
 
I went from very worried about the NDSU game to not worried. NDSU is a decent team, but I don't think they can physically match up to Iowa up front. Jewell, bazata, and Johnson are going to eat stick alive.
 
deanvogs said:
I never really felt that NDSU was going to lose that game. They did almost gift wrapped a win for CHSO with that pick toward the end of the game, but that was the only shot they had.

I wasn't really impressed with NDSU, and I think that the problem they are going to have with Iowa is they like to play like Iowa. They want to line it up and punish you, and that isn't going to work against Iowa's front 7. I was more worried about Ill. St. last year, as they ran a spread that gives Iowa much more problems than when they face a downhill running team.
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Ummm... I agree with you....That was hard.
 
This is the team that's going to beat us? Really? That's cute. Right along with their cute little dome. I watched. I was not impressed. I've been lurking on their board for a while now, biting my tongue, just listening to their shitt, not saying a word. pretty arrogant for what I saw Saturday night against southern Charlestown state of the south. 3-3 at half, overtime win, at home.

Nothing offensively is very intimidating at all. o-line has good size I guess, but nothing we don't already see every weekend, nothing that Jaleel, faith, and bazata don't see regurarly. receivers look very average or below average, I like our db coverage on them a lot, Des and mabin will do just fine here. backs look ok i guess, they have a nebtard transfer with a cute name but the big is full of backs that he'd back up. qb is a decent runner, ok at best passer, prob not a kid that is consistent enough yet to beat us for a full game. nothing offensively I saw that is going to come into kinnick against our D and do enough damage to beat us. I like our D all day against these guys. Charleston D wasn't too bad, but bison fans are in for a rude awakening comparing that D to ours. That D has no des King, Josey Jewell, or Jaleel.

Southern Charlestown state u of the south was horrid offensively, to me at least.Their wishbone offense looked like a car wreck. Qb was not good. Although our offense has its up and downs, I don't think there's much comparison to Charleston and our offense. CJB, Kittle, meercat, Daniels, I didn't see that on the field for charleston. We should be able run pretty well against them and then really pick them apart after the run has opened up. Again, compare Charleston's offense to ours....

I don't know, I was expecting much more based on their forum discussion. They are going to take over kinnick, we will never have seen anything like their winning pedigree and how strong they are, how well they play as a team, yanda yanda yanda. Their fan base may be in for a rude awakening because I didn't see a team that will beat us. In fact, I feel much much better after watching them. I think we could pick out score against charleston,similar to what we did against Illinois state last year. I'm sure ndsu will improve and play a better game at kinnick, but for all the shitt their fan base is taking, they have some work to do. Bring it
 
HawkeyeMHA said:
This is the team that's going to beat us? Really? That's cute. Right along with their cute little dome. I watched. I was not impressed. I've been lurking on their board for a while now, biting my tongue, just listening to their shitt, not saying a word. pretty arrogant for what I saw Saturday night against southern Charlestown state of the south. 3-3 at half, overtime win, at home.

Nothing offensively is very intimidating at all. o-line has good size I guess, but nothing we don't already see every weekend, nothing that Jaleel, faith, and bazata don't see regurarly. receivers look very average or below average, I like our db coverage on them a lot, Des and mabin will do just fine here. backs look ok i guess, they have a nebtard transfer with a cute name but the big is full of backs that he'd back up. qb is a decent runner, ok at best passer, prob not a kid that is consistent enough yet to beat us for a full game. nothing offensively I saw that is going to come into kinnick against our D and do enough damage to beat us. I like our D all day against these guys. Charleston D wasn't too bad, but bison fans are in for a rude awakening comparing that D to ours. That D has no des King, Josey Jewell, or Jaleel.

Southern Charlestown state u of the south was horrid offensively, to me at least.Their wishbone offense looked like a car wreck. Qb was not good. Although our offense has its up and downs, I don't think there's much comparison to Charleston and our offense. CJB, Kittle, meercat, Daniels, I didn't see that on the field for charleston. We should be able run pretty well against them and then really pick them apart after the run has opened up. Again, compare Charleston's offense to ours....

I don't know, I was expecting much more based on their forum discussion. They are going to take over kinnick, we will never have seen anything like their winning pedigree and how strong they are, how well they play as a team, yanda yanda yanda. Their fan base may be in for a rude awakening because I didn't see a team that will beat us. In fact, I feel much much better after watching them. I think we could pick out score against charleston,similar to what we did against Illinois state last year. I'm sure ndsu will improve and play a better game at kinnick, but for all the shitt their fan base is taking, they have some work to do. Bring it
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Before watching them Saturday I thought they'd be solid enough to keep it within a 10-14 point game. After watching... I don't think so. I think Hawks win by 14+. Iowa is better at everything they're trying to do. I honestly don't see one position where NDSU is better than Iowa at.
 
NDSU is all about pushing their opponents around and wearing them down over the course of a game. They aren't going to do this to Iowa. As a matter of fact, their style plays into Iowa's team. We are the bigger more physical group and we will wear them down and win the game going away.
 
DP5555 said:
Yeah I agree with you Dean. This doesn't necessarily mean anything, but Illinois State beat that Charleston Southern team pretty handily last year in the FCS playoffs. The same Illinois State team that Iowa handled last year.

My biggest takeaway from watching NDSU Saturday night was that I was unimpressed with their line. They dominated in the trenches last year. Just simply pushed people around. They had their way with Iowa State. Plus Wentz was a better runner and more accurate passer than Stick is. I believe they also lost their best RB from a year ago, however, this King Frazier guy did play quite a bit.

I think your breakdown is spot on. They won't be able to run against Iowa's front seven. Stick will be forced to pass and he isn't accurate enough to lead them to a win through the air without having a rushing attack to keep the defense off balance. I do expect NDSU to keep getting better though. They have a good coaching staff and that seems to be the way they operate. They keep improving each week and end up being damn good at the end of the season.
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I think I did hear that a starter was missing the first 2 games for academic suspension, so I believe that would put him back by the Iowa game.
 
I love the confidence...I was worried about this one from the moment it was scheduled and thought this could be the one blemish on an otherwise awesome season. Seems like NDSU might kind of NDSUck from the in depth analysis above. Would love love love to see us run up 40+ on these guys...welcome to Kinnick fockers!
 
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I think I did hear that a starter was missing the first 2 games for academic suspension, so I believe that would put him back by the Iowa game.
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I believe that is correct but they also lost NFL linebacker to a shoulder injury. Well that's what the bizon called him anyway. That arrogant fan base got a rude awakening. 5 straight championships in fcs and they think they are Alabama. They really think they will win the championship for the next decade. Nothing says the coach will stay their for that long. Check out Bisonville for a sneak peak at what will be sitting next to you at Kinnick. What a special treat you all are in for.
 
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in the first game of the season. There have been plenty of seasons where we've come out and looked like dog crap in the first game and still ended up pretty good. I still think that, physically, we will dominate them and they don't have a game-changer at the skill position like a David Johnson or that QB that played for App St when they beat Michigan....which is what an FCS team needs to "level the playing field" somewhat against a Power 5 team because they just aren't going to out-physical them.....
 
Just read on their forum that, their center who was out for their first game on Saturday, when he returns, will, I quote,"own" Jaleel. Their center will own Jaleel. I see Jaleel playing in the pros for quite some time. Their center must be really good. Will be interesting to see. Keep talking ndsu, keep talking. If I was a FeCeS school that had to go into OT to beat that team on saturday night, at home, last thing I'd be dong is calling out Jaleel Johnson. Shaking head...
 
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Just read on their forum that, their center who was out for their first game on Saturday, when he returns, will, I quote,"own" Jaleel. Their center will own Jaleel. I see Jaleel playing in the pros for quite some time. Their center must be really good. Will be interesting to see. Keep talking ndsu, keep talking. If I was a FeCeS school that had to go into OT to beat that team on saturday night, at home, last thing I'd be dong is calling out Jaleel Johnson. Shaking head...
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If their center is going to OWN Jaleel why isn't he playing on sunday instead of Saturday? Hope someone posts that on Jaleel's locker! This will be fun!
 
Stick can run pretty well. Hopefully he will be doing a lot of that at Iowa City....for his life.

We're going to get their best game. That said, If the Hawks play well and don't turn the ball over, we should win by 14+.

I would expect a lot of misdirection as they aren't going to be able to run straight at Iowa.
 
I would never underestimate them. They did beat the NFL team located in Lames.

There fan base is pretty arrogant.
 
I tend to agree with most of these posts. I don't think it's a blow out or anything, but it's hard to picture Iowa losing this game unless they turn it over a bunch. It's like playing against your style of play...run first, ball control, move the chains, only we do it better...with much better QB and running backs. Parker will have our team ready to force Stick to beat us...I don't see them running the ball on us.
 
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