Big 12 setting up exploratory committee. You will laugh at the targets

[hawkeyescott]

I never said that Notre Dame was going to the Big 12. Never said it. I'm just saying the chances of them joining the Big 12 are much greater than the Big 10. For one, they don't like the Big 10 and their commish. Second, the Big 12 would allow them to keep their contract with NBC. It's pretty simple and something that has been known about for years now.

I could be wrong but I thought last summer the faculty at Notre Dame voted to join the Big Ten because of the research dollars involved, but it was a few big time athletic boosters that put the squeeze on it because like most they don't like change and wanted to keep their independence.

 

[Cyclones17]

Why would a school that has held out in joining a conference to this point join a conference where some teams are overtly begging to leave and others are covertly doing it? It would be a bad move on their part to join a conference that has a shorter life expectancy than a mayfly.

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

 

[imported_ankle23]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

once texas departs the big 12 and goes independent, i doubt any other school in the big 12 will have the cache to have their own network. in the big 12 ND does not = Texas.

 

[deanvogs]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

Why on earth would ND join a conference with Texas calling all the shots? The big12 might allow them to start their own network....they WON'T let them negotiate their own TV contracts.....Big difference.

 

[FCAS]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

With the uncertainty surrounding the Big12, including the possibility of UT becoming independent, I'm guessing that NBC has politely suggested to Notre Dame that a move to the Big12 would adversely impact the on-going relationship.

 

[DuffMan]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

You would have thought by now the B12 would have learned their lesson about having different rules for different schools.

The B12 is crumbling around you know because one of their existing members gets more money than the rest. Now you want to bring in a new school that gets special treatment from day one? LOL.

 

[Cyclones17]

You guys read to many blogs by guys that live in their moms basement if you think Texas is going independent. Why go independent when they got the sweet deal that they do?

 

[74Hunter]

Those KC radio guys are some of the douchiest, idiotic commentators I have ever heard. I think they were the ones saying that Mizzou was going to the B1G last year.

 

[goods10]

Those KC radio guys are some of the douchiest, idiotic commentators I have ever heard. I think they were the ones saying that Mizzou was going to the B1G last year.

Yes I believe they were. They thought I was the crazy one when I called in and called them out on their stupidity. Weird.

 

[imported_ankle23]

You guys read to many blogs by guys that live in their moms basement if you think Texas is going independent. Why go independent when they got the sweet deal that they do?

uh, ok. we already know they don't like to share.

once they have their $300MM network set up and rolling they'll be in a position to not have to share a dime. they will have their own network money + any other money that they generate thru tv deals and bowl games. that will be way more than $20MM or whatever sharing agreement they have now. and i couldn't blame them in the least. I'd gag too if ISU/KSU/Baylor was benefitting simply by being associated with Texas.

you tell me why they will need to stay with the Big 12 at that point. what does the big 12 do for them? you seem to have all of the answers.

sure, right now it is a sweet deal, but in three years, they say who cares.

 

[TChawk]

Notre Dame to the Big 12 is 100X more likely than Notre Dame to the Big 10. If you don't believe that than you are not very well informed.

Wow talk about not being very well informed.....

 

[FML]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

If ND joins the B10 today they immediatly double their income. It's not about money, if it was, they would have joined the B10 last year.
You think ND wants to take their football teams to Ames and Lawrence?

 

[DJL]

If ND joins the B10 today they immediatly double their income. It's not about money, if it was, they would have joined the B10 last year.
You think ND wants to take their football teams to Ames and Lawrence?[/QUOTE]

Great point. If they were in the Big 1G they wouldn't have to travel very far to play the doormats. Minnesota would probably be the farthest. Do you think ND wants to go to Texas to play Baylor, or even Texas Tech when they could be going to Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State ect...??? Would they want to go play K-State when they can stay close to home and play Purdue? I don't think so. None of it makes sense unless they are promised to co-run the conference with Texas, make a ton of money, and leave everyone else out in the cold, in which case, the conference will dissolve anyway........oh wait, isn't that already happening? Never mind. I love it when these clone fans come on here and spew their "facts"

 

[Lyddea]

Notre Dame could join the Big 12 and keep their TV package while joining a conference. It would be the best of both worlds for them. That would not be an option in the Big 10.

What TV package are they keeping? The 3 non-con games, only two of which would be at home and within their media rights?

And this would be worth signing their death warrant as "Notre Dame" by focusing almost all their schedule on schools with which they have no history and fall outside the areas in which they have strong support?

There is zero chance ND joins the Big 12, they didn't turn down the Big Ten because of money from their TV deal, they would have made more in the B1G, they turned it down because they need to stay a national program and continue playing a national schedule.

 

[Clark]

I never said that Notre Dame was going to the Big 12. Never said it. I'm just saying the chances of them joining the Big 12 are much greater than the Big 10. For one, they don't like the Big 10 and their commish. Second, the Big 12 would allow them to keep their contract with NBC. It's pretty simple and something that has been known about for years now.

Really? Right now NBC is contracted for ALL ND home games. Texas can't get more than 1 home game on the Longhorn network and that's not a conference game.

Add that to the fact that the closest schools to ND in the Big 12 is Iowa State and Missouri and you get a nightmare travel budget for most sports.

 

[theboat]

Notre Dame to the Big 12 is 100X more likely than Notre Dame to the Big 10. If you don't believe that than you are not very well informed.

I agree with you on this. IT would be much better in the Big12 because they can pretend to be independent financially like Texas, but still be in a conference. Problem is that you would pi$$ off whatever teams do stick around and speed up the destruction of the league and end with Texas and ND and nobody else. (except maybe ISU who would hang on for the scraps)

 

[silvanthalas]

You guys read to many blogs by guys that live in their moms basement if you think Texas is going independent.

And the same doesn't apply to you and your 'facts' that ND would prefer the Big 12 to the Big 10?

Delusions of grandeur, buddy.

And how about this: not only are ND ratings down on NBC, but it's been reported in the last few days that a couple of those games are going to be moved to the soon-to-be-rebranded Versus.

Before the latest extension, ND was believed to be getting $9 million a year from NBC. And what is ND getting from everybody else? $0.

How much is each Big Ten team getting? $8 million from BTN alone (with a 20% increase over last year... think NBC is matching that with ND?), and nearly $23 million total from all the deals.

Yeah, bet house money on ND going it alone with NBC.

 

[brett108]

And the same doesn't apply to you and your 'facts' that ND would prefer the Big 12 to the Big 10?

Delusions of grandeur, buddy.

And how about this: not only are ND ratings down on NBC, but it's been reported in the last few days that a couple of those games are going to be moved to the soon-to-be-rebranded Versus.

Before the latest extension, ND was believed to be getting $9 million a year from NBC. And what is ND getting from everybody else? $0.

How much is each Big Ten team getting? $8 million from BTN alone (with a 20% increase over last year... think NBC is matching that with ND?), and nearly $23 million total from all the deals.

Yeah, bet house money on ND going it alone with NBC.

The reason why the contract looks so small is because it is almost a decade older than the Big10 network. Even if the ratings are slipping, if ND opens the bidding back up for these rights, they will be getting more than double what they do right now. Someone(FOX, ESPN/ABC, NBC) will put forward the cash.

 

[hawkeyescott]

The reason why the contract looks so small is because it is almost a decade older than the Big10 network. Even if the ratings are slipping, if ND opens the bidding back up for these rights, they will be getting more than double what they do right now. Someone(FOX, ESPN/ABC, NBC) will put forward the cash.

I feel dirty but I agree with you, I don't know if they would get double, but it would be significantly more.

 

[hawkeyescott]

And the same doesn't apply to you and your 'facts' that ND would prefer the Big 12 to the Big 10?

Delusions of grandeur, buddy.

And how about this: not only are ND ratings down on NBC, but it's been reported in the last few days that a couple of those games are going to be moved to the soon-to-be-rebranded Versus.

Before the latest extension, ND was believed to be getting $9 million a year from NBC. And what is ND getting from everybody else? $0.

How much is each Big Ten team getting? $8 million from BTN alone (with a 20% increase over last year... think NBC is matching that with ND?), and nearly $23 million total from all the deals.

Yeah, bet house money on ND going it alone with NBC.

Also NBC isn't moving the games to the new versus channel (whatever they are calling it) because of bad ratings, they are moving them to get the exposure for that channel.