Best hawks by weight

this might be a little easier than your previous "best of" thread. but i'll let someone else start with the heavy lifting of looking up all the weights.
 
Essentially what would our best team all time look like. Wonder how many national championships on that team?
 
I'll give it a shot, using the current weight classes
125 - Barry Davis. Edges McDonough for now with the 3 titles and NCAA tourney OW award.
133 - Tom Brands. Tough call with Randy Lewis, Mark Ironside and Eric Juergens all 2-time champs and 4-time all-Americans eligible at this weight.
141 - Lincoln McIlravy. Was in Carver when he lost in the finals for only NCAA Tournament loss...still breaks my heart.
149 - Brent Metcalf. 4-time all-American Jim Heffernan another solid choice here, but Metcalf had one more title and lost a season.
157 - Jim Zalesky. Ends career on 89-match win streak and 3 titles. Nuff said. TJ Williams only lost once and could have been placed at 149 or here, but gave it to Metcalf and Zalesky.
165 - Joe Williams. Won a pair of titles at 158, but won last at 167, so placed here.
174 - Mark Perry. Could have slipped Royce Alger in here, but went with the 4-time all-American and 3-time finalist. Perry maybe a 4-time finalist if didn't bump up a weight his sophomore season.
184 - Ed Banach. Could have been at 174, 184, or 197. Best Hawkeye ever IMO.
197 - Duane Goldman. Lee Fullhart also 4-time all-American around this weight, but 4-time finalist gets the nod.
285 - Lou Banach. Maybe the most entertaining Hawkeye ever to watch. Never afraid to go for the big move and usually came out on top.

If my math is correct, my team has 25 NCAA titles.
 
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Not enough of a wrestling fan to come up with a list here but can't wait to see some of the debates here. With such a successful program over the last 40+ years there should be some great, actual, debates once the hardcore guys start posting.
 
Oh no don't get me wrong, we have ruled the world of wrestling. But someone in my other thread listed a bunch of wrestlers with three titles so I thought we would have a few more.30s perhaps.
 
HawkeyeMHA said:
Oh no don't get me wrong, we have ruled the world of wrestling. But someone in my other thread listed a bunch of wrestlers with three titles so I thought we would have a few more.30s perhaps.
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Not ragging on you. I agree 25 doesn't really seem like a lot, but when you put 2.5 per wrestler and compare to David Tayor who may "only" have 2 at the end of his career, yeah that's a crazy number.
 
mattrat said:
I'll give it a shot, using the current weight classes
125 - Barry Davis. Edges McDonough for now with the 3 titles and NCAA tourney OW award.
133 - Tom Brands. Tough call with Randy Lewis, Mark Ironside and Eric Juergens all 2-time champs and 4-time all-Americans eligible at this weight.
141 - Lincoln McIlravy. Was in Carver when he lost in the finals for only NCAA Tournament loss...still breaks my heart.
149 - Brent Metcalf. 4-time all-American Jim Heffernan another solid choice here, but Metcalf had one more title and lost a season.
157 - Jim Zalesky. Ends career on 89-match win streak and 3 titles. Nuff said. TJ Williams only lost once and could have been placed at 149 or here, but gave it to Metcalf and Zalesky.
165 - Joe Williams. Won a pair of titles at 158, but won last at 167, so placed here.
174 - Mark Perry. Could have slipped Royce Alger in here, but went with the 4-time all-American and 3-time finalist. Perry maybe a 4-time finalist if didn't bump up a weight his sophomore season.
184 - Ed Banach. Could have been at 174, 184, or 197. Best Hawkeye ever IMO.
197 - Duane Goldman. Lee Fullhart also 4-time all-American around this weight, but 4-time finalist gets the nod.
285 - Lou Banach. Maybe the most entertaining Hawkeye ever to watch. Never afraid to go for the big move and usually came out on top.

If my math is correct, my team has 25 NCAA titles.
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That's a heck of a list. For debate purposes I'll say Royce Alger over Perry, only because Perry wasn't your quintessential hawkeye in terms of style.

Then also for debate purposes in terms of most entertaining you say Lou Banach. I'll go with my favorite hawkeye to watch Ray Brinzer. Obviously he didn't have the resume to be on this list though.
 
CRwrestling said:
That's a heck of a list. For debate purposes I'll say Royce Alger over Perry, only because Perry wasn't your quintessential hawkeye in terms of style.

Then also for debate purposes in terms of most entertaining you say Lou Banach. I'll go with my favorite hawkeye to watch Ray Brinzer. Obviously he didn't have the resume to be on this list though.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Perry wrestle 165?
 
Perry did wrestle 165 3 seasons (including last 2 years where he won), but was up at 174 as a sophomore, where he finished third behind Ben Askren and Jake Herbert (not a bad top 3). Thought Williams was a better fit at 165 and wanted to get Perry in there, so that's where I sloted him. Could flip-flop Williams and Perry's weight classes on my list, or go Williams 165 and Alger 174, as I'm sure many think it should be.
 
mattrat said:
Perry did wrestle 165 3 seasons (including last 2 years where he won), but was up at 174 as a sophomore, where he finished third behind Ben Askren and Jake Herbert (not a bad top 3). Thought Williams was a better fit at 165 and wanted to get Perry in there, so that's where I sloted him. Could flip-flop Williams and Perry's weight classes on my list, or go Williams 165 and Alger 174, as I'm sure many think it should be.
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Thanks that explains it. I didn't follow Hawkeye wrestling very closely until I was a student there, Perry's senior year.
 
mattrat said:
Perry did wrestle 165 3 seasons (including last 2 years where he won), but was up at 174 as a sophomore, where he finished third behind Ben Askren and Jake Herbert (not a bad top 3). Thought Williams was a better fit at 165 and wanted to get Perry in there, so that's where I sloted him. Could flip-flop Williams and Perry's weight classes on my list, or go Williams 165 and Alger 174, as I'm sure many think it should be.
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You'd be hard pressed to ever find a weight class in the history of the NCAA's that had three multiple NCAA champions as the top three placewinners.
 
CyBroncos said:
You'd be hard pressed to ever find a weight class in the history of the NCAA's that had three multiple NCAA champions as the top three placewinners.
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Not multiple champions but the weight class Metcalf went through as a sophomore was pretty salty also: Metcalf, Burroughs, Caldwell, Jenkins, O'Connor, and Schlatter all won titles.
 
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