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How many of you were actually a little let down to see Jake pull that win off on Saturday knowing that meant his grip in the starting position just got tighter?
 
Or, maybe the light went off in Jake's head that receivers can get open if you let them finish their routes. Open question right now. Can't blame those that want CJ to play, but Jake's played well enough. A running game might help, by the way.
 
Yeah, I totally hoped Iowa would lose. If you weren't pumped for Jake to bring us all the way back, while looking cool as hell, I feel bad for you as a fan.
 
Heck no. A win is a win no matter how bad or ugly we play... and it was both bad and ugly.
 
CAARHawk said:
How many of you were actually a little let down to see Jake pull that win off on Saturday knowing that meant his grip in the starting position just got tighter?
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Not me.

Not even 0.000000000000000000000000001% of me.

I never want Iowa to lose. Ever.
 
I seriously considered suicide. It was all in front of me, the Hawkeye's losing, jake getting booed, Ferentz being fired, Greg Davis as interim head coach. Then Ball State went into a soft zone for the final five minutes, I seem to remember another team that used to do that.
 
homes said:
Or, maybe the light went off in Jake's head that receivers can get open if you let them finish their routes. Open question right now. Can't blame those that want CJ to play, but Jake's played well enough. A running game might help, by the way.
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I'd hope that's the case, but it could also be a case of opening up the game because there was no other choice, and the team making a furious comeback. I see it in sports all the time - a team looks like garbage most of the game and then wakes up when it's time to do or die, and plays with a sense of urgency (and the team with the lead often goes into a shell and plays a "prevent" defense). Also, don't overlook the fact that Ball State's D seemed to be wearing out in the 4th quarter.

Down that Rudock won't be replaced? Nah. I'm far more down about the first 3 1/2 quarters of that game, and that I've come to the realization that I should never expect Iowa to have a potent offense under this coaching staff. Until something changes there, it's going to be hard to do much better than 7-5, barring an absolutely fantastic defense (like 2004/09).
 
Yes, Kirk should have seen that Brad Banks was a better option than Kyle McCann.
Yes, Kirk should have seen that Ricky Stanzi was a better option than Jake Christensen.
...but to say, that we are happy to see Iowa lose, because we would rather have QB1 in, instead of QB2, is dishonest, silly, or both.
 
I don't care who is the QB. I just want Iowa to win. Yes I liked seeing CJ throw the deep ball early in the game but I was not upset when Jake came back onto the field.
 
Scooby said:
Yes, Kirk should have seen that Brad Banks was a better option than Kyle McCann.
Yes, Kirk should have seen that Ricky Stanzi was a better option than Jake Christensen.
...but to say, that we are happy to see Iowa lose, because we would rather have QB1 in, instead of QB2, is dishonest, silly, or both.
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No. No. No. No. No. Banks was used in the ways that he could be used. It has been said a lot of times that Banks didn't have nearly the grasp of the playbook that McCann had, and starting Banks would have really limited how much Iowa could do on offense in '01.
 
Not at all let down. I was more let down that CJ didnt get one or two series in the 3rd qtr. But who knows maybe he would have if ball st doesnt get 3rd qtr kickoff, score, and then we fumble, effectively not seeing the ball for about the first 9 minutes of that qtr.
 
thejumper5 said:
No. No. No. No. No. Banks was used in the ways that he could be used. It has been said a lot of times that Banks didn't have nearly the grasp of the playbook that McCann had, and starting Banks would have really limited how much Iowa could do on offense in '01.
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As simple as IOWA's offense looks on the field, we've heard from players how tough it is to learn. An offensive scheme that "plays" bland but is tough to learn... is a lousy offensive scheme. Especially if it delays the opportunity for your better athletes to get on the field.
 
It looks as though Jake has been "Ferentz-cized" over the summer. Very conservative. He likes to take the path of minimal risk.

His decision making is very good this year, but his pocket presence might be a little too sensitive. Playing mistake free is only good if you are also making plays. I'm willing to give him some more time to find those open receivers down field. I think he can do it. By the time conference play rolls around he had better show improvement.
 
thejumper5 said:
No. No. No. No. No. Banks was used in the ways that he could be used. It has been said a lot of times that Banks didn't have nearly the grasp of the playbook that McCann had, and starting Banks would have really limited how much Iowa could do on offense in '01.
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Yeah, I am not sure if Banks and McCann is the best comparison. Jake and Ricky is more interesting. The funny thing is that both Jakes suffer from just about the exact opposite problem. Jake C. threw everything the same speed - too hard. Jake R. throws everything the same speed - too weak.

Here is an interesting read from back in the days of that switch.
 
Another "bait the hook" attempt to add to the non-existent QB controversy. But, somebody flattened the barb on the hook with some good responses to the post. Also, may want to read Game Film's summary on the QB's...good stuff.
 
CAARHawk said:
How many of you were actually a little let down to see Jake pull that win off on Saturday knowing that meant his grip in the starting position just got tighter?
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Absolutely not. I'll take a hawk win any way we can get it. Jake is a good qb
 
I always want Iowa to win, no matter what. I did think it was odd to have CJ in for 1 series, but hey, what the hell do I know.
 
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