I think he would do well. We offerered him for a reason. Maybe we saw him as a WR if the QB thing work out, but our O is QB friendly and he runs well enough he may have have been Brad Banks lite. Before you think I'm suggesting him over Stanzi ask yourself how Rick would do in ISU's offense. Besides I think the kid is a class act all the way
Austen Arnaud in our offense
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hawkfan340
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This is completely insane. Except for the class act part - that part was okay. He's not a good passer, not a good decision maker, and plays his worst in the biggest moments. He'd be more like Brad Banks Zero-Gravity. To suggest he's in the same league as Banks or even Stanzi is crazy.
ShadasRevenge
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Bingo. About the only thing Austen brings to the table with any consistency is a running threat. Between the ears, the guy can't get out of his own way.
DexterMorgan
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Arnaud blows.
Hawkeyes1982x
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I'm glad we dont have Arnaud to throw into any zone coverages.
busabus114
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Ive watched Arnaud play in person twice and I can confirm the rumors that he blows
Most of our players would blow if they were not coached well or put in positions to play well. Who knows how Arnaud would turn out if he came here. He is tall, mobile, decent arm strength, I'd imagine he would look better in our system.
Stanzi wouldn't be good in the spread where he is forced to facilitate a ball-control, short, timing passing game. Stanzi makes most of his poor decisions on short routes. Just saying.
Stanzi wouldn't be good in the spread where he is forced to facilitate a ball-control, short, timing passing game. Stanzi makes most of his poor decisions on short routes. Just saying.
DexterMorgan
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Arnaud's career vs Iowa (2 games)
197 1 3
79 0 4
for a grand total of 276 yards, 1 TD and 7 INT.
EDIT: Whoops forgot 2008
224 0 2 bringing that TD/INT ratio to 1/9
197 1 3
79 0 4
for a grand total of 276 yards, 1 TD and 7 INT.
EDIT: Whoops forgot 2008
224 0 2 bringing that TD/INT ratio to 1/9
tm3308
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I thought Arnaud looked better yesterday than he ever has against us. He was pressured into making some ugly throws (bounced a couple), but his receivers dropped several passes, too. He didn't start forcing it downfield until he was left with no choice. They weren't going to come back with the lateral passing game. He had to make something happen, even if it wasn't there.
hawkfan340
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Except for the height, sounds like Jake Christensen. You could even add good guy to the list.
ShadasRevenge
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I think you're right to a point, but the time for Arnaud to make it a game was the first couple times ISU had the ball. It was evident after Iowa's first possession that their defense wasn't going to stop the Hawks, and Arnaud and his o-line didn't exacty do the defense any favors by gaining -2 yards on their first two possessions.
It's easy to say "he had to throw it" in regards to the second half, but you can't ignore that it was his/ISU's pitiful first half that set up that situation.
blkngoldUofI
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AA has no chance at the next level, Stanzi does. AA isn't even a good college QB, Stanzi is. Stanzi has a hell of a win-loss record, AA not so much. AA would have been McNutt part 2 if he came to Iowa.
I listed three very generic skills, yet compare to the only terrible QB KF has had at Iowa. AA's tools are just as good as Stanzi's or McCann's. Who knows if AA would be a better player here, but my guess is yes. And I bet if Stanzi had three different offensive coordinators, and was forced to execute a ball-control passing attack with a poor o-line and average weapons he wouldn't be as good as he is now.
you are an idiot.
By what authority do yo state that AA would be any good if he was under that same system.
FAIL..you can speculate all you want. He SUCKS...PERIOD!!!!
ShadasRevenge
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Couldn't you say the same for any quarterback?
HAWKEYESTATE4ever
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Please do not insult Marvin like that.
hawkfan340
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First of all, I don't think JC was a terrible quarterback. He held onto the ball too long and was an inaccurate passer. He was also a good guy, a hard-worker, and deserved better than he got from the Iowa fans (I'm still angry about the booing).
Second, the comparison is completely appropriate. Similarities: good-arm strength, weak on decision-making, mobile, struggles under pressure, good teammate. Differences: height, interception ratio.
I stand by my comparison.
Umm... disagree.
Probably, but I don't think he would have played quarterback for us, and if he did, he would be ahead of Vandenberg but not on the field.
True, but says nothing of how good either of them are. I say Stanzi is in a different league than AA. This is based on what I see on the field and not hypotheticals.
tm3308
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I don't think he should have tested them like that so early. As a QB, you've got to have SOME faith that the coaches know what they're doing. Going deep isn't a big part of their offensive attack, and going away from your comfort zone in the first quarter is rarely a good idea. If they could have kept it within two TD's, they could have been fine. Then it only takes a big play or two.
But either way, the interceptions were not what defined his day. The loss was far from squarely on his shoulders, as a lot of ISU fans on CF seem to think.
I'll second that. McNutt is the man. There is no way Arnaud would have become nearly as great of a reciever as McNutt.
