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DDThompson
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people act like it doesn't all the time. it's that "actions speak louder than words" thingy.
Article about Ferentz's highest rated recruit ever (Bonecrusher)
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Arrogance, anger, entitlement + items that affect your brain often don't lead to happy endings, for those delivering and especially for those on the receiving end.
DenverHawk94
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Well...from what I have read the linking of violent behavior and pot use is dubious at best.
I would argue it might be a chicken egg thing. Which came first the violent man or the weed? Was the weed a key that unlocked his violent nature? I have read about a very, very small percentage of people that might be prone to violence after smoking pot.
My experience has been I have run into far more mean drunks than mean, violent pot smokers.
Mean drunks, several 100. Violent pot smokers, 0.
thedukeofearl
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I just returned from a vacation with friends in Fort Collins, Colorado. We attended a downtown festival that was wonderful. The scene in Colorado is very relaxed and cool. I don't smoke anymore and the people I stayed with don't either, but plenty of people around do so and there is far from a problem whatsoever.
People are naturally friendly and helpful. Just the way they drive around town is a revelation. I was very impressed. The people I stayed with are into using CBD products and introduced me to them and they do work. I have had a pinched nerve in my knee after a hip replacement last August 20, and it still is problematic. Even after exercising every day and doing physical therapy, I still wake up with a very stiff knee and have to do exercise right away to be able to walk. The CBD works very well. I mix the liquid with OJ in the morning, two eyedroppers full, and then rub the salve on my knee and the effect is noticible. Not an immediate effect where I start doing jumping jacks, but the pain is gone and I respond to exercise quite nicely. I was wondering if I was a victim of placebo effect and was imagining the effect, but there is a real difference with pain and flexability.
The sooner they make CBD products legal in Iowa, the better it will be for anyone wanting release from pain and increased flexability. The THC content in the products is 0.3. The products are made from hemp, rope that is, and you could drink a gallon of the tincture and not get a buzz. Iowa ditch weed would not get anyone high, only in one's imagination.
I never smoked tobacco, not even a cigarette The lads wanted me to smoke a cigarette after school one day in the seventh grade. I took a puff and it hit my lungs like a sledge hammer. I handed the cigarette back and told them they could have all the cigarettes they wanted but no thanks. That was it.
People are naturally friendly and helpful. Just the way they drive around town is a revelation. I was very impressed. The people I stayed with are into using CBD products and introduced me to them and they do work. I have had a pinched nerve in my knee after a hip replacement last August 20, and it still is problematic. Even after exercising every day and doing physical therapy, I still wake up with a very stiff knee and have to do exercise right away to be able to walk. The CBD works very well. I mix the liquid with OJ in the morning, two eyedroppers full, and then rub the salve on my knee and the effect is noticible. Not an immediate effect where I start doing jumping jacks, but the pain is gone and I respond to exercise quite nicely. I was wondering if I was a victim of placebo effect and was imagining the effect, but there is a real difference with pain and flexability.
The sooner they make CBD products legal in Iowa, the better it will be for anyone wanting release from pain and increased flexability. The THC content in the products is 0.3. The products are made from hemp, rope that is, and you could drink a gallon of the tincture and not get a buzz. Iowa ditch weed would not get anyone high, only in one's imagination.
I never smoked tobacco, not even a cigarette The lads wanted me to smoke a cigarette after school one day in the seventh grade. I took a puff and it hit my lungs like a sledge hammer. I handed the cigarette back and told them they could have all the cigarettes they wanted but no thanks. That was it.
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GotTimDodge
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Aren't all the arguments against pot super outdated and obsolete?
I thought it was all started by the lumber industry with the big pockets because you can make paper and clothes and shit out of hemp.
Legal hemp would bury the lumber industry in the early 20th century, so a bunch of nonsense propaganda began: reefer madness, etc.
I thought it was all started by the lumber industry with the big pockets because you can make paper and clothes and shit out of hemp.
Legal hemp would bury the lumber industry in the early 20th century, so a bunch of nonsense propaganda began: reefer madness, etc.
thedukeofearl
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Psychotic people who are violent by nature with very weak self control and impulse control, and without much of a conscience tend to hit a trip wire more often when weeded up and drunked up. Stonecrusher seems to be an on the edge person, by personality. Not a good mix for him or the innocent victims. Normal people don't do what he did in a series of tragic events.
DenverHawk94
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We are talking people prone to psychotic behavior, and they tend to hit a trip wire on any number of things.
Take pot away and it’s something else to blame.
True, blame is easier than accountability.
dahlhawk
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Don't believe for a second that he wasn't also on roids. That kind of aggressive behavior is usually associated with drugs like PCP or continued steroid abuse. The article never tells us what was in his system during the time of his attacks.
I think he also said he didn't "want to talk" about the attacks.
DenverHawk94
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What was nuts was that Bone was smoking all day every day,. That is not remotely normal or healthy for anyone.
I think MikevTyson said he smokes $40k a month! What? That is an unfathomable amount to me.
I do have some of Colorados finest on hand for foot pain, stress and the occasional sleepless eve. Job has been a bit of a bear lately...software implementation with silly tight deadlines.
I think MikevTyson said he smokes $40k a month! What? That is an unfathomable amount to me.
I do have some of Colorados finest on hand for foot pain, stress and the occasional sleepless eve. Job has been a bit of a bear lately...software implementation with silly tight deadlines.
vork22
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Not all of us grew up in sheldon, dyersville, atlantic or creston with an English teacher and an attorney as parents and an older sister. Some come from pretty rough environs so save your simplistic solution bullshit for a day...would you and find it in yourself to read the damn story and appreciate a young man with a penance and a newfound hunger for a fresh start. And if you are still against that success then you are the one that now needs the help
I mostly had empathy for the victims and their families, not much for a guy who is violent, drugged up by personal choice, filled with rationalizations, and enabled...the last thing he needs is more excuses.
The Duke Abides!
HawkGold
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I certainly can understand your feelings about him. Feel some the same way. Most violence occurs behind closed doors. 1 in 4 girls 1 in 6 biys ave been abused. 1 in 3 womwn and 1 in 7 mean have been injured by a partner.
There arent many churches anywhere not rocked by child sexual abuse. Churches and scouts are magnets for abusee and churches forgive and kick victims to the curb.
Concussions do impact impulse control. Wewd can makeone fetter but lead to other issues. Rooids....all a part of football.
Parts of Chicago are hell to grow up in. Most everyone w ptsd uses some sort of drug. For some its adrenaline.
Then there are the meth and heroine issues. Huge. There are about 11000 drunk driver deaths in the US. 17 percent of those are children.
We have issues. Its really easy to point at really big black men going crazy. Harder to see and look at the other stuff .
Our society has problems money can't cure, it will take outstanding leadership, sacrifice, and honest accounting of where we are, and fewer people who are filled with excuses for themselves and others. Our leaders have been of the self absorbed variety, selfies, "people are doing this because of no fault of their own" etc. etc. If you encourage the citizens to be accountable and honest and take a hard look in the mirror, you lose votes, thus, the fiction continues.
Agree at the time and for many years after that, but a lot of time has past since then. And to have 1% compassion for another human being isn’t the worst thing in the world to have. At least have some understanding of how our society contributes to this in some fashion.
My post was sarcasm directed to the person I quoted. Try to keep up.
