Any ideas on how we attempt to prepare for Shoelace?

DuffMan

DuffMan

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The only guy close to being capable of replicating the speed and atheltic ability is probably DJK, and I'm not sure even he does it justice, not to mention we probably need him practicing with the offense.

How do you prepare for that guy? Who simulates him on the scout team?
I'm glad we have two weeks to prepare.
 
I think Chaney should probably be the guy.
Not like he has to practice too much, since there is literally 1 play for Chaney
 
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In straight line speed, Chaney would be a great scout team QB. But he doesn't have the "wiggle" that Robinson possesses...but wasn't Chaney a HS QB too?
 
DaDynasty said:
I think Prater should probably be the guy.
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Do you really think we take a guy that's a 1st teamer and use him on the scout team? I'd think we'd wan't Prater getting as many reps as possible on the other side.

I'm not trying to call you out, I really have no idea, would we use a 1st teamer on the scout team for this week?
 
How did we prepare for that many-headed ACC speed monster, GA Tech?
Weren't we supposed to fall flat on our slow, fat Midwestern faces when confronted by the Amazing Offensive Weaponry invented by the Hillbilly Genius, paul "small" johnson?

The Serial Killer is correct: hit shoestring, hit him again, hit him harder, and voila, he's neutralized. :mad:
 
DuffMan said:
Do you really think we take a guy that's a 1st teamer and use him on the scout team? I'd think we'd wan't Prater getting as many reps as possible on the other side.

I'm not trying to call you out, I really have no idea, would we use a 1st teamer on the scout team for this week?
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Sorry Duff, meant Chaney... there is only 1 play he has to prepare for, and that's the reverse.
 
VintageHawkeye said:
How did we prepare for that many-headed ACC speed monster, GA Tech?
Weren't we supposed to fall flat on our slow, fat Midwestern faces when confronted by the Amaing Offensive Weaponry invented by the Hillbilly Genius, paul "small" johnson?

The Serial Killer is correct: hit shoestring, hit him again, hit him harder, and voila, he's neutralized. :mad:
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to be fair, no one on GA tech is even in the same speed category as Robinson.

I don't think anyone on Iowa is either. Really I don't think we have anyone that can come close to impersonating the quickness that Robinson has.
 
To best emulate Robinson in practice, I think you go for the guy with more wiggle than speed. You want to stop the fakes and the slight of hand at the los. By the time robinson gets to really use his speed the play is already over (at least to the point that you can prepare for).
 
VintageHawkeye said:
How did we prepare for that many-headed ACC speed monster, GA Tech?
Weren't we supposed to fall flat on our slow, fat Midwestern faces when confronted by the Amazing Offensive Weaponry invented by the Hillbilly Genius, paul "small" johnson?

The Serial Killer is correct: hit shoestring, hit him again, hit him harder, and voila, he's neutralized. :mad:
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That's a completely differenst situation. GT had a unique system, and one that wasn't easy to prepare for. UM has a very unique athlete, quite possibly a once in a decade type player. That's a whole different ball game.
 
DuffMan said:
That's a completely differenst situation. GT had a unique system, and one that wasn't easy to prepare for. UM has a very unique athlete, quite possibly a once in a decade type player. That's a whole different ball game.
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I don't disagree; the point of my post above is that Norm and his crew are able to adequately scheme for pretty much any kind of offensive threat, even a highly unique one like shoestring. Factor in the extra week to prepare, and...I'm not too worried.
Mind you, I do think it will be a hair-raising game up in ann arbor - I do not foresee the Hawks dominating. But I think we'll get it done.
 
VintageHawkeye said:
I don't disagree; the point of my post above is that Norm and his crew are able to adequately scheme for pretty much any kind of offensive threat, even a highly unique one like shoestring. Factor in the extra week to prepare, and...I'm not too worried.
Mind you, I do think it will be a hair-raising game up in ann arbor - I do not foresee the Hawks dominating. But I think we'll get it done.
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I'm not worried about preparing for the scheeme. Indiana and NW both run similar elements, and we've prepared for the scUM "scheme" for a few years now. I'm worried about how we simulate him specifically and if we can adequately prepare for it because up until now no ene else has even come close to holidng that guy in check.
 
All the defense really has to do is stop him from scoring a touchdown on about 1/3 of their possessions as I think Iowa should be able to score more often than that on Michigan's "defense".
 
Georgia Tech's offense isn't nearly as hard to defend as Michigan's. Georgia Tech's offense was an old fashion offense with a few modifications. Norm Parker has seen that offense many times in his career. Georgia Tech's offense was a terrible offense for passing the football. Ga Tech's offense also didn't utilize as much of the field sideline to sideline as Michigan's does.

Michigan's offense really spreads you out and offers a much much much more dynamic passing attack than Georgia Tech's offense.
 
I'd play our base 4-3 cover 2. Try to keep him in the pocket so he has to throw over his lineman and he won't be able to see that well (he's short). Then have our tackles try to tackle him if he darts up the middle. Spy with Hunter on him.

Try to take away the quick slants and force him to throw the ball where our cover 2 is most weak, the deep middle. He'll make some of these throws but he'll have to place the ball accurately and that's where we generate a lot of our INT's. If we keep him in the pocket we might be able to bat a few balls down as well.
 
I would suit up and play on the scout team and could easily emulate Denard's speed and moves, but unfortunately, I hurt my shoulder my senior year, so without the ability to throw the rock across my body 40 yards on a line like I used to be able to do, I don't think I would be a good choice.
 
VintageHawkeye said:
I don't disagree; the point of my post above is that Norm and his crew are able to adequately scheme for pretty much any kind of offensive threat, even a highly unique one like shoestring. Factor in the extra week to prepare, and...I'm not too worried.
Mind you, I do think it will be a hair-raising game up in ann arbor - I do not foresee the Hawks dominating. But I think we'll get it done.
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I feel better having the extra week, but I'm not worry-free about Robinson. I didn't get to see him when he played, but Robinson is what I kind of imagine that Antwan Randel El was like at Indiana, only faster. And Randel El gave us fits, no?
 
Don't know who simulates Robinson but my guess is that the staff will emphasize that the DL and ends not over-commit on coverage and play positions. That's where the Lace seems most dangerous.
 
Main thing is control the line of scrimmage lets go with a 5-2 look and not allow him into open space and control the line of scrimmage, and I am predicting only a 50/50 we will see him MSU hits and that will be an emotional game for sure.
 
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