Your trying to sound really smart and all but you forget Aaron was injured up until his senior year so he didn't get all that much recognition because he came on the scene late.
Aaron White will be a solid NBA player
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i understand the NBA perfectly, there are 30 teams in the league, there are 2 rounds in the draft and Only the 1st round draft pick are guarnteed a contract which last for 3 years, the 2nd round picks have to make the roster then get a contract.
its really simple to understand.
like i said; White has a chance to be make the NBA after his senior year, which is a little over 3 years away of developing his skills,.
to say he has no chance before his freshman year is over. is to make you sound like fools and make it sound like White cannot improve or that Fran can't coach.
and that is trashing the kid in my opinion
its really simple to understand.
like i said; White has a chance to be make the NBA after his senior year, which is a little over 3 years away of developing his skills,.
to say he has no chance before his freshman year is over. is to make you sound like fools and make it sound like White cannot improve or that Fran can't coach.
and that is trashing the kid in my opinion
Oh, no wonder he had a ton of offers, official visits and even committed to a BIG 10 school BEFORE his senior season.
GhostofBTT
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There are 60 players selected in the NBA draft. There are 346 Division one basketball programs. Since every player in basketball has the option of entering the draft after the season, that would mean, out of all of the players today, estimating that each team has a roster of 12 players, a person has a .014% likelihood of being drafted.
That means, the top 1% of 1% gets drafted. I like Aaron, but I doubt he'll become the best of the best when he's through.
Exactly, and that doesn't even include the international players.
IATrainMaster101
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Wow sarcasm noted. Also incredibly unfortunate that there is no such thing as improvement, under performing being over rated, being lazy, or sitting for a reason.
It is also completely unprescedented that one player surpass another, be more talented but a worse player, be rated incorrectly..... its all so unthinkable.
I did not call Aaron the 15th best freshman player in the country. I don't even subscribe to the idea that there is such a thing. I simply said you can not state as a fact that there are lots sitting on benches signifantly better.
If you disagree with me prove me wrong. Name them and back it up.
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WHITE never went thru the Summer AAU circuit to be evluated because he broke his wrist, and unlike football, BB coaches ssually stop recruiting a kid when he commits to a school , especially kids that are not considered high level recruits, which White was not,
before you try to start a arguement put yourself in a coaches position you really going to go after a kid that is an unranked 3*, its hard to get evaluated when you don't compete in the AAU games, and it is pretty common for kid to get bypassed by the evaluator once they commit especially when it is at a team not considered elite.
again he never played in the AAU summer camps so he did not get ranked,
this also a good reason other kids get overlooked not every kid gets to play in the summer camps for finacial or other reasons
before you try to start a arguement put yourself in a coaches position you really going to go after a kid that is an unranked 3*, its hard to get evaluated when you don't compete in the AAU games, and it is pretty common for kid to get bypassed by the evaluator once they commit especially when it is at a team not considered elite.
again he never played in the AAU summer camps so he did not get ranked,
this also a good reason other kids get overlooked not every kid gets to play in the summer camps for finacial or other reasons
IATrainMaster101
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I wonder what those numbers look like when you throw out 85% of all underclassmen who won't even consider the jump, and all of the non starting seniors that can be ruled out. Then factor in the 3 more years of development for a healthy White. Still low odds but I bet it doesnt look so bleak.
GhostofBTT
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Because you can't factor unknowns as a variable. How do you know White will be starting when he's a senior? How do you know in White's senior season, there won't be 20 great freshmen one and dones? How do you know he'll make grades, or stay healthy, or transfer, or 1,000 other things that could happen?
So I'll stick with the numbers I have, and as it stands, the top 1% of 1% of players make it to the NBA.
Here is something to show how hard it can be to make the NBA.
Lavelle Blanchard NEVER played in the NBA but is still playing over seas.
1999 #6 ranked recruit by RSCI
1999 McDonalds All American game participant
6'8 215 Played 3/4 but more so played the 3
Only player in Univeristy of Michigan history to lead the team in scoring and rebounding all four years he played.
Freshmen: 28 games played/30.6 min per game/ 44.8% FG/ 36.3% 3PT FG/ 7.9 boards/gm
Sophomore: 28 games played/ 33.3 min per game/ 44.2% FG/ 40.8% 3PT FG/ 8.4 boards/gm
Junior: 29 games played/ 29.6 min per game/ 43.2% FG/ 35.3% 3PT FG/ 6.3 boards/gm
Senior: 30 games played/ 32 min per game/ 42.2% FG/ 41.8% 3PT FG/ 6.8 boards/gm
Fresh: 14.4 points per game
Soph: 17.8 points per game
Junior: 14.8 points per game
Senior: 16.2 points per game
Look how good he was, do you remember him? Never sniffed the NBA
Lavelle Blanchard NEVER played in the NBA but is still playing over seas.
1999 #6 ranked recruit by RSCI
1999 McDonalds All American game participant
6'8 215 Played 3/4 but more so played the 3
Only player in Univeristy of Michigan history to lead the team in scoring and rebounding all four years he played.
Freshmen: 28 games played/30.6 min per game/ 44.8% FG/ 36.3% 3PT FG/ 7.9 boards/gm
Sophomore: 28 games played/ 33.3 min per game/ 44.2% FG/ 40.8% 3PT FG/ 8.4 boards/gm
Junior: 29 games played/ 29.6 min per game/ 43.2% FG/ 35.3% 3PT FG/ 6.3 boards/gm
Senior: 30 games played/ 32 min per game/ 42.2% FG/ 41.8% 3PT FG/ 6.8 boards/gm
Fresh: 14.4 points per game
Soph: 17.8 points per game
Junior: 14.8 points per game
Senior: 16.2 points per game
Look how good he was, do you remember him? Never sniffed the NBA
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BasketballMan
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This thread started out bad...and has progressively gotten to the point where some of the comments are a joke. Hawkeye fans (I assume all of u posters r?), how about if we stop the nonsense of SPECULATION and GUESSING and simply enjoy White for who he is...and not criticize him for somebody maybe he isnt. I would hope that at this point, nobody is gonna argue the kid can ball, has a very high bball IQ, was under-recruited, and has a burning desire / work ethic that might be considered special. Simply put. He's a player and the kind of kid you win with. Let's enjoy all of that for another 3+ years and see what happens from there and stop all of the 2nd grade nonsense that this thread has turned into.
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IATrainMaster101
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Ghost....I don't know any of those things and never claimed to. I still find your numbers to be intentionally skewed to try prove your point. I think we both agree its a long shot for anyone, we simply disagree how low the odds are for Aaron and I happen to be more right 
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GhostofBTT
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Ghost....I don't know any of those things and never claimed to. I still find your numbers to be intentionally skewed to try prove your point. I think we both agree its a long shot for anyone, we simply disagree how low the odds are for Aaron and I happen to be more right
I didn't skew any numbers. You can do the math for yourself. Maybe I framed it in a way to bolster my argument, but I can't think of a way around it.
Let's put it a different way; Let's just assume there are 65 teams with players who are draft worthy, since there are 65 teams in the tournament. If we conservatively estimate they have 12 players on the roster, then that means there is a 7% chance on of those players will be drafted.
Would you consider Aaron to be in the top 7% of the players in CBB?
BasketballMan
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Ghost. Isnt it time for your nap? Wow. You clearly cannot do math very well. In one of your prior posts you pointed out there are 346 D1 teams with 12 players per team. That equals 4,152 total players. 60 players drafted out of the 4,152 total players means 1.4% of your example are drafted, NOT .014% as you seem to think. Dear God I hope you don't do stats for a sports team nor are you a math teacher. Before you dream up your wild-*** arguments, make sure you get the easy part (i.e. the math) right.
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GhostofBTT
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lol wut???
atomicblue224
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atomicblue224
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ghost`s numbers seem more logical than it is to herby`s
