A PREVIEW OF THE NEW KINNICK EXPERIENCE?

Some of you really don't know what you're talking about! While repeating things @ Iowa may seem boring if you go to every game, we do have a unique package.

I've been to every away Big-10 stadium for at least one Iowa FB game (sans Nebby). (# of times list after school name) Here's my run down. You decide how lame Iowa is:

Illinois (4): Very involved student section. 4-corner fireworks. Stadium still a dump. South wind brings a barnyard stench.

Indiana (3): Car Keys, Arm pump (1st down), and "that's *another* Hoosier first down." Worst FB environment in the B1G (nobody shows up until right at game time, poor crowds, no tailgating and they actually expanded the place!) No bars around area.

Michigan (2): Best overall environment I've been to (tied with Wisconsin). Lots of unique "dress" among the home folks, drumsticks beating cowbells galore (with cheers), the banner, best band in B1G, first class FB game-day operation. Personal section seating attendants. 2nd to none. Yes, the sound does dissipate, but, when they enclose the entire top with luxury boxes (two year wait), that'll change. Lack of bars around the area.

MSU (1): Pretty involved student section. Ummmm....ummm...other than that...pretty sterile place. MSU campus all spread out, little condensed tailgating near stadium. $3 round-trip bus rides from many far-removed parking lots. No bars around the area.

Minnesota (2)(TCF only): Great new stadium. Nothing really sticks out as memorable as far as the game-day situation. You park at the wasteland called the Minnesota State Fairgrounds and take a $10 shuttle to the game. Not much around the stadium regarding bars/partying.

Nebraska: Never seen a game there, although, have been in and around the stadium. Only know it from reputation as being hostile. Not much around stadium regarding bars.

NU (7): People voice they hate this place. I like it for its quaintness. Two bars right off the metra on Central. Mustard's Last Stand by the stadium. Annoying "cat growl" the entire game. No tailgating to speak of near the stadium. Parking all spread out. Public transportation is the way to go. No much in-game stuff to keep one's attention.

OSU (3): Close 2nd only to Michigan/Wisconsin. Excellent band, crowd engaged all game. Tradition galore. All-American sidewalk (a tree is planted for every AA OSU has had, and, it's a forest!). You have to park/walk to game, but, a ton of bars around the area. Unique "Heiney Gate" before and after game....place rocks. Bigger than Kinnick by a 1/3, louder than Kinnick.

PSU (1): Surprisingly a lot of tailgating around the stadium with alcohol allowed in the open, although not much in the way of bars. Stadium is large, but very disjointed as its been added on to several times. Some of the seats (i.e. visitors) are a LONG ways from the field. Very active student section. Annoying cat growl throughout the entire game. Very isolated but beautiful surroundings. Not as loud as one might think for a 106K capacity stadium.

Purdue (3): Some bars within walking distance. Unique for their car keys, train and bass drum. Easy to get to. Only time I've seen the crowd really into it was the 1985 Long vs Everett game. Not much else to get excited about.

Wisconsin (5): I could write a book about Camp Randall and surrounding area. It's like they dropped the stadium in the middle of downtown Iowa City. Bars galore. Open alcohol allowed. Fun galore. I always park near the western bus terminal and ride into the area. Crowd is always abuzz, loud, fun, jump-around of course. Lots of tailgating around the area just outside of the downtown. I have nothing but good things to say about a Wisky game day experience.

Maryland (1): I used to live in the DC area. Went to a high school playoff game there. Small stadium. I don't think MD has/will have much of a home field advantage. In fact, with as many east coast Hawk fans as there are, could be a Kinnick east. BB is king.

Iowa (dozens): Unique closeness to field generates as much noise as any B1G stadium other than OSU and perhaps Wisconsin. Bars are a mile walk eastward. You can get to the stadium via auto, train or free bus....that's unique to Iowa. I-O-W-A cheer is unique from what I can remember. The team coming down the runway to Back in Black, then, Enter Sandman, is unique. The Swarm is unique. Tailgating right next to Kinnick is absolutely packed....something unique (Indiana has potential if people would go to game, you can join large tailgates somewhat close to the stadium parking lots @ NU and PSU). Burrito is lame, dental smile is lame. Kinnick parking/Melrose booze rules are overly-restrictive.

But I'll say this....I've taken dozens of 1st-timers and out-of-towners to Iowa games and am damn proud of the environment it presents. Everyone, and I mean everyone, positively comments on it. We have it pretty good @ Iowa folks...believe it or not.

Since you haven't been to Lincoln you get a pass. 80% of the city's bars are within a 5 min walk if the stadium.

When the team is good, Kinnick rocks and doesn't need to apologize for a thing. That said, a bit of re freshening from Klatt's operation would be ok
 
Minnesota (2)(TCF only): Great new stadium. Nothing really sticks out as memorable as far as the game-day situation. You park at the wasteland called the Minnesota State Fairgrounds and take a $10 shuttle to the game. Not much around the stadium regarding bars/partying.

The unique thing about the Gophers is they sell BEER during the game inside the stadium. I'm not sure how they get away with it, but it is glorious. Also there are college bars all around dinkytown you just have to know where to go.
 
Without having been to OSU, Wisconsin or PSU (just going off what others have said), I'd have to say the top 5 stadiums in terms of stadium environment/party scene are (in no specific order) Iowa, OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin and PSU or Nebraska. I've been to Kinnick roughly 30-35 times, Michigan twice and Nebraska once (that trip was as a freelance photographer for the DI last fall, not as a spectator).

Honestly, my biggest complaint with the gameday experience at Kinnick is the city infrastructure. It simply isn't designed to hold a major college athletic event and traffic is absolutely ridiculous. It's been even worse with all the practice facility and hospital construction going on, which left Hawkins as the only street that was open by the stadium. Nebraska's traffic wasn't terrible, but not great. Michigan has the perfect setup with the six-lane road running N/S by the stadium; they just turn all six lanes one way to the interstate after the game, and you get out of there way faster than you'd ever expect. Best gameday experience I've had from a tailgating/traffic standpoint.
 
Frankly, sometimes less is more. Music doesn't need to fill every second. Iowa football fans are fairly sophisticated, they know when to cheer and get loud. I've been there when the music, regardless of its age/genre, has been a buzzkill to the momentum in the stadium.

Try letting the crowd drive the action, instead of trying to awkwardly force feed it to the fans.
 
Without having been to OSU, Wisconsin or PSU (just going off what others have said), I'd have to say the top 5 stadiums in terms of stadium environment/party scene are (in no specific order) Iowa, OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin and PSU or Nebraska. I've been to Kinnick roughly 30-35 times, Michigan twice and Nebraska once (that trip was as a freelance photographer for the DI last fall, not as a spectator).


Honestly, my biggest complaint with the gameday experience at Kinnick is the city infrastructure. It simply isn't designed to hold a major college athletic event and traffic is absolutely ridiculous. It's been even worse with all the practice facility and hospital construction going on, which left Hawkins as the only street that was open by the stadium. Nebraska's traffic wasn't terrible, but not great. Michigan has the perfect setup with the six-lane road running N/S by the stadium; they just turn all six lanes one way to the interstate after the game, and you get out of there way faster than you'd ever expect. Best gameday experience I've had from a tailgating/traffic standpoint.

Agree 100% with you that Kinnick is rather a nightmare to get away from after the games. Although, if you ride the Cambus away from Kinnick, once you're at the Hancher area, they do a fairly decent job in getting you out of there.

PSU was easy. OSU was easy. I did the public transportation thing @ Wisky...easy.

Also agree with you....Michigan was the best overall game day experience I've had away from Kinnick. Very professionally done. Impressive.
 
Would this be the appropriate thread for me to weigh in with some original opinions regarding (1) the band playing something other than "Hey Jude" between the 3rd & 4th Q and (2) painting the water tower?

The band has played "Hey Jude" since my brother was a member in the '70s. The arrangement they play was made by a friend of his who was a couple of years ahead of him. And what's wrong with a tradition of a song? If you go to Fenway, they ALWAYS play "Sweet Caroline" after the top of the 8th inning.
 
The band has played "Hey Jude" since my brother was a member in the '70s. The arrangement they play was made by a friend of his who was a couple of years ahead of him. And what's wrong with a tradition of a song? If you go to Fenway, they ALWAYS play "Sweet Caroline" after the top of the 8th inning.

My comment was tongue-in-cheek. I was trying to make a funny that "Hey Jude" and painting the water tower have been debated & discussed ad nauseam since the advent of the Hawkeye interwebz.
 
Some of you really don't know what you're talking about! While repeating things @ Iowa may seem boring if you go to every game, we do have a unique package.

I've been to every away Big-10 stadium for at least one Iowa FB game (sans Nebby). (# of times list after school name) Here's my run down. You decide how lame Iowa is:

Illinois (4): Very involved student section. 4-corner fireworks. Stadium still a dump. South wind brings a barnyard stench.

Indiana (3): Car Keys, Arm pump (1st down), and "that's *another* Hoosier first down." Worst FB environment in the B1G (nobody shows up until right at game time, poor crowds, no tailgating and they actually expanded the place!) No bars around area.

Michigan (2): Best overall environment I've been to (tied with Wisconsin). Lots of unique "dress" among the home folks, drumsticks beating cowbells galore (with cheers), the banner, best band in B1G, first class FB game-day operation. Personal section seating attendants. 2nd to none. Yes, the sound does dissipate, but, when they enclose the entire top with luxury boxes (two year wait), that'll change. Lack of bars around the area.

MSU (1): Pretty involved student section. Ummmm....ummm...other than that...pretty sterile place. MSU campus all spread out, little condensed tailgating near stadium. $3 round-trip bus rides from many far-removed parking lots. No bars around the area.

Minnesota (2)(TCF only): Great new stadium. Nothing really sticks out as memorable as far as the game-day situation. You park at the wasteland called the Minnesota State Fairgrounds and take a $10 shuttle to the game. Not much around the stadium regarding bars/partying.

Nebraska: Never seen a game there, although, have been in and around the stadium. Only know it from reputation as being hostile. Not much around stadium regarding bars.

NU (7): People voice they hate this place. I like it for its quaintness. Two bars right off the metra on Central. Mustard's Last Stand by the stadium. Annoying "cat growl" the entire game. No tailgating to speak of near the stadium. Parking all spread out. Public transportation is the way to go. No much in-game stuff to keep one's attention.

OSU (3): Close 2nd only to Michigan/Wisconsin. Excellent band, crowd engaged all game. Tradition galore. All-American sidewalk (a tree is planted for every AA OSU has had, and, it's a forest!). You have to park/walk to game, but, a ton of bars around the area. Unique "Heiney Gate" before and after game....place rocks. Bigger than Kinnick by a 1/3, louder than Kinnick.

PSU (1): Surprisingly a lot of tailgating around the stadium with alcohol allowed in the open, although not much in the way of bars. Stadium is large, but very disjointed as its been added on to several times. Some of the seats (i.e. visitors) are a LONG ways from the field. Very active student section. Annoying cat growl throughout the entire game. Very isolated but beautiful surroundings. Not as loud as one might think for a 106K capacity stadium.

Purdue (3): Some bars within walking distance. Unique for their car keys, train and bass drum. Easy to get to. Only time I've seen the crowd really into it was the 1985 Long vs Everett game. Not much else to get excited about.

Wisconsin (5): I could write a book about Camp Randall and surrounding area. It's like they dropped the stadium in the middle of downtown Iowa City. Bars galore. Open alcohol allowed. Fun galore. I always park near the western bus terminal and ride into the area. Crowd is always abuzz, loud, fun, jump-around of course. Lots of tailgating around the area just outside of the downtown. I have nothing but good things to say about a Wisky game day experience.

Maryland (1): I used to live in the DC area. Went to a high school playoff game there. Small stadium. I don't think MD has/will have much of a home field advantage. In fact, with as many east coast Hawk fans as there are, could be a Kinnick east. BB is king.

Iowa (dozens): Unique closeness to field generates as much noise as any B1G stadium other than OSU and perhaps Wisconsin. Bars are a mile walk eastward. You can get to the stadium via auto, train or free bus....that's unique to Iowa. I-O-W-A cheer is unique from what I can remember. The team coming down the runway to Back in Black, then, Enter Sandman, is unique. The Swarm is unique. Tailgating right next to Kinnick is absolutely packed....something unique (Indiana has potential if people would go to game, you can join large tailgates somewhat close to the stadium parking lots @ NU and PSU). Burrito is lame, dental smile is lame. Kinnick parking/Melrose booze rules are overly-restrictive.

But I'll say this....I've taken dozens of 1st-timers and out-of-towners to Iowa games and am damn proud of the environment it presents. Everyone, and I mean everyone, positively comments on it. We have it pretty good @ Iowa folks...believe it or not.


I've been to multiple stadiums in the big ten over many years, and I mostly agree with your analysis. However, it's not wrong for Iowa fans to want the experience in Kinnick to improve. Better music would make a difference. I, personally, want the experience to be better than Wisconsin :)

Or, we could just put more bars next to the stadium, Seth. lol.
 
Nice take on it, Seth. I will say the tailgate in Lincoln is turrible.

As for Kinnick tailgates, I'd love for them to lax a little on the drinking regulations. I know some justify it by saying ridiots get too crunked; but that shouldn't ruin it for all of us.
 
Iowa at #7!?!?! This is an outrage! Hack writing!!!

*Grumble Rumble Grumble Rumble*

BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!1!!

In all seriousness, given how many legendary stadiums/programs we have in the Big Ten, I thought 7 is a very respectable showing. That has to easily land us in the top quartile nationwide.
 
BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!1!!

In all seriousness, given how many legendary stadiums/programs we have in the Big Ten, I thought 7 is a very respectable showing. That has to easily land us in the top quartile nationwide.

Somewhat agree. As I was reding it, I thought the top half would be fairly crowded. You could probably make an argument to shuffle the top 7 any which way.
 
Seems that attendance according to capacity was a huge factor in the ranking. Surprised that being close to the field and having great sight lines wasn't mentioned as much for Kinnick as for Michigan State.
 
Seems that attendance according to capacity was a huge factor in the ranking. Surprised that being close to the field and having great sight lines wasn't mentioned as much for Kinnick as for Michigan State.

I thought the same when reading the MSU blurb. I believe their first row seats sit up higher than the first row seats in Kinnick. I also think the MSU seats are a little further back from the sidelines (full disclosure; that's just from judging from the television, as I've never been to Spartan stadium).

The writer also mentioned the lack of 100,000+ capacity when listing Nebby at 6 (although Nebbys average surpasses it's "actual" capacity), but then follows that up with Wisky at 5 (approximately 10,000 less capacity, and average less than capacity).
 
Michigan Stadium has a lot of seats but that place blows to watch a game, especially if you are in row 100. As you are about 12 miles from the field.

And MSU is a dump.
 

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