A big missed call from the UNI game that irked me
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LG210
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Interestingly, in contrast, the three second rule requires that a player stay in the three second lane for more than three seconds for a violation to occur.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Wow. I did not know that.
I wonder if that's the same for a lane violation?
Rawkhawk73
Banned
Wow, I'm not sure I've ever seen so much fail in one thread.....and by people who are so convinced they are right.
Once the shot clock hits 25 seconds and the team has not made it over the halfcourt line with both feet and the ball, it is a violation. The rule explicitly states that you must make it over the halfcourt line BEFORE 10 seconds have elapsed.
Once the shot clock hits 25 seconds and the team has not made it over the halfcourt line with both feet and the ball, it is a violation. The rule explicitly states that you must make it over the halfcourt line BEFORE 10 seconds have elapsed.
To further illustrate using facts:
The 35 second clock does not have increments of tenths. This obvious, but should be stated.
The shot clock starts at what would be 35.0 seconds, not 35.9 seconds or any time increment in between.
When the clock goes from 35 to 34 some measurement of time less than a second has elapsed. In other words it does not wait to decrement by that second before it reads 34. It's only after the clock hits 33 that the full second has been accounted for.
If the shot clock was broken down by tenths or hundredths then your reasoning would sound as long as it read 25.0. Since it doesn't the
clock needs to get to 24.
The 35 second clock does not have increments of tenths. This obvious, but should be stated.
The shot clock starts at what would be 35.0 seconds, not 35.9 seconds or any time increment in between.
When the clock goes from 35 to 34 some measurement of time less than a second has elapsed. In other words it does not wait to decrement by that second before it reads 34. It's only after the clock hits 33 that the full second has been accounted for.
If the shot clock was broken down by tenths or hundredths then your reasoning would sound as long as it read 25.0. Since it doesn't the
clock needs to get to 24.
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DuffMan
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Ronco, stop what you are doing and thinking and read this very carefully.
We can all agree that when the shot clock hits 0 a buzzer sounds and a shot clock violation has occured correct? Since there are NO tenths of a second we can therefore agree that if anything between 1.0 seconds, and .01 seconds were left on the shot clock it would show 1.
Now that we understand that we can say that the clock starts at 35 and counts down. The clock STAYS at 35 until one FULL second has elapsed, at which point it hits 34. Building on that we have....
34= at least 1 full second has elapsed
33= at least 2 full seconds have elapsed
32= at least 3 full seconds have elapsed
31= at least 4 full seconds have elapsed
30= at least 5 full seconds have elapsed
29= at least 6 full seconds have elapsed
28= at least 7 full seconds have elapsed
27= at least 8 full seconds have elapsed
26= at least 9 full seconds have elapsed
25= at least 10 full seconds have elapsed= violation
To take it further to a shot clock violation....
24=11
23=12
22=13
21=14
20=15
19=16
18=17
17=18
16=19
15=20
14=21
13=22
12=23
11=24
10=25
9=26
8=27
7=28
6=29
5=30
4=31
3=32
2=33
1=34
0=35 seconds have elapsed and a shot clock violation has occured.
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DuffMan
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Both feet need to be outside the lane. A count discontinues after a shot at goal or if the player in possesion of the ball is making a move at the hoop.
LG210
Well-Known Member
Frrom the NCAA rule book:
Section 9. Three-Second Rule
Art. 1. A player shall not be permitted to have any part of his or her body
remain in the three-second lane for more than three consecutive seconds
while the ball is in control of that player’s team in his or her front court.
a. A team in control of the ball for a throw-in adjacent to a front-court
boundary line may not be called for a three-second violation.
Art. 2. Allowance shall be made for a player who, having been in the threesecond
lane for less than three seconds, dribbles or moves in immediately
to try for field goal.
a. The player shall not pass the ball instead of trying for goal.
hawkfan8691
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You are wrong. Read the above post about when there's 34.9 seconds the clock shows 35. When theres 34.9-34.8-34.7 and so on, it shows 35 seconds. If not, then explain to me how the buzzer sounds at the instant the clock hits 0. It's because at .09-.01 it shows 1 second on the clock. Otherwise, by your reasoning, they screw the team out of a second, and in reality a team only has 34 seconds to get a shot off
hawkeyescott
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Here is another math lesson for you today without using tenths since the shot clock doesn't:
A) What is 35-25?
B) Now what is 35-24?
You 9.9999999 seconds to get the ball over half court, so which answer above would create a violation (meaning it took more than 9.99999 seconds) first, A or B?
See how stupid your sounding try to prove your right, just let it go and admit you're wrong, everyone makes mistakes.
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LG210
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Actually, based on the NCAA rule, you get 9.999999999999999999999 seconds. Once 10.0 hits, it is a violation.
Maybe that will help Ronco understand.
hawkeyescott
Well-Known Member
Good point, I will edit that.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Ronco, it's ok to admit when you are wrong. I do it all the time. 
sportstalent
Well-Known Member
I don't know for sure and will check, but I thought that was a rule change because of the discrepancies between not calling 10 seconds when the shot clock would constantly be under 25.
It was a terrible call and storm is completely right, should have been called and is not a judgement call.
ShadasRevenge
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Wayne Larivee is a terrible basketball announcer.
ShawkAndAwe
Well-Known Member
Ronco, using your explanation, when the shot clock reaches 0, there would be .9 seconds left. You are wrong.
When the shot clock reaches 25, 10 seconds have elapsed.
When the shot clock reaches 25, 10 seconds have elapsed.
