It's like when you get really deep in a dynasty in NCAA 14 on Xbox. After 5-6 seasons, things start to get real weird.
5 First Team All-Big 10 and We Finish 5-4 in Conference??
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IowaLawWasRight
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Actually, no, turnovers were not Iowa's problem at all.
Iowa ranked #16 in the nation in turnover margin this year. Iowa lead the nation in interceptions over the past 2 years. It's pretty myopic to blame "turnovers" for losing 4 conference games to teams with inferior talent. If you want to look at turnovers, though, surely you will note that we barely beat lowly Nebraska by a last second field goal because THEY threw an interception and had a fumble. Iowa had zero turnovers that game and needed every possible break to pull of the win.
Every team has turnovers. Every team has injuries. What every team does not have is underclassmen who are so good they are looking at going to the NFL early.
Iowa ranked #16 in the nation in turnover margin this year. Iowa lead the nation in interceptions over the past 2 years. It's pretty myopic to blame "turnovers" for losing 4 conference games to teams with inferior talent. If you want to look at turnovers, though, surely you will note that we barely beat lowly Nebraska by a last second field goal because THEY threw an interception and had a fumble. Iowa had zero turnovers that game and needed every possible break to pull of the win.
Every team has turnovers. Every team has injuries. What every team does not have is underclassmen who are so good they are looking at going to the NFL early.
hawkeyebob62
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"We"? Seriously, "We"?
hawkeyebob62
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"On paper..."...and yet...not ONE pundit picked Iowa to win the B1G West, let alone the B1G CG. And Vegas? Had Iowa O/U at 6.5 to 7.5 wins leading up to the season.
Ben Rumson
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I have been saying the same thing for years. We don't have a talent issue! Look how many nfl guys Iowa has produced. We have coach issue! He does not use the talent he has to full potential! His system and style of play actually limits some of the abilities these kids have! But there are several content with it so.... enjoy!
We lost to 4 teams with inferior talent? Who are we kidding? Penn St has more talent on its roster, so does Wisconsin.
Nate Stanley is no McSorley. None of our running backs are even close to the same level as Jonathan Taylor. Our receivers are below average. About the only position Iowa has an advantage over those two teams is tight end and maybe the d line.
I will agree that we have more talent than Purdue or Northwestern though.
Sagarin has it as the worst outside of the ACC coastal and PAC12 south.
smitharooney
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The only injuries this year I seem to remember are the ones that inflicted the coaches brains
deanvogs
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So it isn't the weakest division then. Also split the Big12 in half, and it is stronger than one of the two Big 12 division if the Big12 were to have them.
No skill position players under this regime ever
Football is about numbers and playmakers. We don’t have quality depth and rarely if ever have playmakers with this staff. Add in inept game mgmt and lack of offensive coaching ability in general, this is why we are whar we are under this regime
That style of play and coaching is exactly why Iowa puts so many in the NFL.
I agree Wisconsin has just been killing us talent wise in the rb area. We get some good ones, but maybe instead of trying to be better than the other rb's at Iowa they need higher goals. That said last year we started a bunch of new ol and wr, run blocking wasn't as high on the list as the passing game. I think we have reached the balance point where one only increases as the other does now. Which is why I say, we haven't seen the best out of this team and why I suggested that some people's stock will rise with another year. That said, you have to balance in new guys, because if they are going to leave early, along with graduation, you could be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Do that and pretty soon you will have a bare cupboard. Reloading is an art in it's self.
Our D? What is to say, they had one bad game. I would say 1.5 because some of that last game was kind of ugly. Mostly because they thought they could get there and didn't, breaking contain. Once they figured out to drive the other guy back and collapse instead of going around (a QB can't run through his own guys either (traffic) ) it looked better. But all in all, we have some serious talent on D, NFL talent. Will it develope? That' up to the players, but if you want to play D at the next level, or even if that is where Iowa projects you (from qb to NFL DB) you would be a fool to not get on board.
I have seen growth in the ol and wr, but it needs to be faster. Not sure if that's talent or coaches just getting into the rhythm.
Qb, (kok) is doing a great job. Sometimes not as fast as one would like, but we have some talent there. If anything, they may need some survey or side classes on leadership when they first arrive. How to clear the mechanism. But what kid out of hs, going into college doesn't.
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okeefe4prez
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I'm not sure about that.
Ben Rumson
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I would argue more that it had to do with a mismanaged play call and a staff clearly not recognizing it and not calling a time out and letting the play continue anyway. Yes there were injuries but Iowa could of won that game if it weren't for mismanagement.
IowaLawWasRight
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Let's not let facts get in the way of an argument here:
News flash - Penn State had just 1 player make any of the first team All-Big 10 teams. They had just 1 player make 2nd team all Big Ten (McSorley). In contrast, Iowa was loaded with talent, as evidenced by having 5 on the first team and 4 on the Second Team.
To say that the only positions Iowa had an advantage was TE and DL is flat out wrong, and is based on a Kirk Ferentz perpetuated fallacy that Iowa can't get talent because we are little ol' Iowa. I can't blame you for falling for it...Gary Barta falls for it every time Kirk re-negotiates his contract.
The fact is, Iowa lost to Penn State due to poor play calling by Brian and really bad personnel decisions (not pulling a QB when he's rattled and hitting just 28% of his passes & not putting your 1st round TE in the game). Iowa did not lose because Penn State had superior talent.
News flash - Penn State had just 1 player make any of the first team All-Big 10 teams. They had just 1 player make 2nd team all Big Ten (McSorley). In contrast, Iowa was loaded with talent, as evidenced by having 5 on the first team and 4 on the Second Team.
To say that the only positions Iowa had an advantage was TE and DL is flat out wrong, and is based on a Kirk Ferentz perpetuated fallacy that Iowa can't get talent because we are little ol' Iowa. I can't blame you for falling for it...Gary Barta falls for it every time Kirk re-negotiates his contract.
The fact is, Iowa lost to Penn State due to poor play calling by Brian and really bad personnel decisions (not pulling a QB when he's rattled and hitting just 28% of his passes & not putting your 1st round TE in the game). Iowa did not lose because Penn State had superior talent.
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You yourself were saying before the season started that we had no talent at the receiver DB or LB position.
Care to count who has more 4 and 5 star players on their roster?
The run away champion of the West lost home games to Akron and Duke
The second place team lost a home games to Eastern Michigan
3rd place team lost a home to BYU
You can make a strong argument judging from on the field results that not only is the B1G West the worst P5 division, each team in the West would struggle to win the MAC.
Ree4
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Down year or more competitive? Having fewer undefeated teams is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather see more balance across college football than less. I hate having the same 2-3 teams every year at the top, it's boring and not exciting at all, but will likely not change.
