MelroseHawkins
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In addition, Iowa should get all the JUCO transfers they can to fill positions.
2016 Incoming Class
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In addition, Iowa should get all the JUCO transfers they can to fill positions.
MelroseHawkins
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I found it easy to do. You think you're just going to respond real quick and end up writing a few sentences, then submit. The post then comes up with a few paragraphs. lol.
MelroseHawkins
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In addition, apparently when one of those recruits decides to go to a Michigan or Ohio St, they automatically go up to at least a 4* the very next day. See the Iowa RB recruit who switched to Michigan 1-2 yrs ago.
koralakers
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Business as usual for Iowa Hawkeye Football. Hard to argue against 5 top 10 finishes. That being said, would much rather take chances on winning with 3-5 star recruits, than 2-3 star guys.
MelroseHawkins
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Sure does say a lot about how Iowa develops players when you really think about it. Iowa had that kick-azz recruiting class in 2005 and look how that class turned out. Maybe this is Iowa's way. Who knows. What could Ferentz do with mostly 4*??
MoseSchrute
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^That class helped win an Orange Bowl.
It doesn't say a single thing about the staffs ability to develop talent. If it was an ability to develop talent, they would have developed all those 4 and 5 star busts into stud players. They don't do an overly special job of developing talent. They do an overly special job of evaluating talent out of high school. They don't turn every 2 star player into a Thorpe winner. They turned a guy who should have been a 4 or 5 star player into a Thorpe winner. This isn't to say they aren't good at developing too. They're just better at spotting talent.
HawkeyeWalker
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Those classes absolutely turned out good/great. I think the point he was making only 1 or 2 of the 4 star guys really contributed. The bulk of that class was really the same guys that we get most years.
That said, we always need to hope the few highly rated guys we get really pan out.
HawkeyeWalker
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I don't think so, Preston had been around long before iowalaw, I think.
MelroseHawkins
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Correct. With that class, many of the high profile players either were a head case or got into trouble & booted off. Sometimes with getting some of the highly rated players it can come with some baggage as a sense of entitlement, players not used to having to battle for positions, thinking they are above the team, etc..
Maybe there is something to seeking out the diamonds who maybe have a chip on their shoulder or a work ethic who have had to battle for what they have. Having a kid's head straight is huge.
I agree with what PCHawk stated above, maybe many of these 3* are really indeed 4*. There is a fine line there.
I worry more about what the classes are rated their senior years then I do on signing day... KF has earned the benefit of the doubt that when it comes to him targeting kids (most of this class was committed and stayed that way since before last season even kicked off)and evaluating how they'll fit/develop. I think this class has a nice mix of athletes. Lots of long TE/DEs some that can move to DT or LBs down the road. Got 2 or 3 RBs (depending on if Wade ends up at LB) in the class that look great. And the kid that I wasn't so sure of to start but have really warmed up to is the qb Stanley. He sounds like he's the real deal. He sounds like he's built like Stanzi but more athletic with a better arm... What's not to love about that? So let's let the staff do what they do and see how they look 2-3 yrs from now.
Lazersharpe
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What it comes down to is the state of Iowa does not have that many 4 and 5 star players coming out of it. Kirk and his staff then have to go to neighboring states to recruit players which means more competition and less of a home state advantage. The only way Kirk and his staff can compete is develop players. These player may have less star because they are raw or late bloomers. It does mean they do not have the same ceiling as some of the 4 and 5 star recruits. If we keep winning, you will see more highly recruits checking Iowa out.
HawkeyeWalker
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This sums it up nicely. I like the ceiling point a lot.
Kennyfromminne
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Serious?
karras
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http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...oking-back-most-impactful-recruits-class-2016
TEs T.J. Hockenson and Noah Fant
2016 ESPN 300 ranking: Neither ranked; two-star and three-star, respectively
School: Iowa
Statuses: Both drafted in 2019 NFL draft: Hockenson eighth overall by the Detroit Lions, Fant 20th overall by the Denver Broncos
This is a two-for-one because both Hockenson and Fant had outstanding careers at Iowa. Fant was a three-star prospect out of Nebraska, and he had offers from Nebraska, Minnesota and Iowa State, among others. Hockenson was only a two-star out of Iowa, and he held some smaller offers, despite his 6-foot-5 frame.
The two became the only tight ends from the same college team drafted in the first round. It also marked the first time two tight ends went in the top 20 since 1992, when Derek Brown and Johnny Mitchell were drafted back-to-back at Nos. 14 and 15.
Hockenson and Fant combined for 1,279 receiving yards and 13 touchdowns this past season and led their team in both categories, making a huge impact on the offense.
TEs T.J. Hockenson and Noah Fant
2016 ESPN 300 ranking: Neither ranked; two-star and three-star, respectively
School: Iowa
Statuses: Both drafted in 2019 NFL draft: Hockenson eighth overall by the Detroit Lions, Fant 20th overall by the Denver Broncos
This is a two-for-one because both Hockenson and Fant had outstanding careers at Iowa. Fant was a three-star prospect out of Nebraska, and he had offers from Nebraska, Minnesota and Iowa State, among others. Hockenson was only a two-star out of Iowa, and he held some smaller offers, despite his 6-foot-5 frame.
The two became the only tight ends from the same college team drafted in the first round. It also marked the first time two tight ends went in the top 20 since 1992, when Derek Brown and Johnny Mitchell were drafted back-to-back at Nos. 14 and 15.
Hockenson and Fant combined for 1,279 receiving yards and 13 touchdowns this past season and led their team in both categories, making a huge impact on the offense.
hawkeyebob62
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And yet...didn't hear his name on draft day...er...draft DAYS
Okay, I get and totally agree with what you're posting, but what's the point of digging up a 3 year old thread started by someone who hasn't posted here for years?
karras
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You think I'm attacking the OP? My goodness your perception abilities suck. My reasons for bumping this are not related to the OP. If you're bigoted against threads from a certain time period, that's your problem not mine.
Way to completely miss the point and get offended about it.
