16 team playoff?

[Hawk90]

8 is stupid. If you take the 5 conference champs, plus give 3 at large teams, you are making the conference championship a "play in game". You are basically giving the 3 at large teams a bye.

Look you are not going to get 16, won't happen. No matter how much money is involved, they are still college students and there is no way college presidents buy off on extending the season. Also as I mentioned above, 16 favors the blue bloods able to go three deep.

8 is better than 4, yup you might get three teams that did not play 13 games........more probable is you will get a couple conference championship losers. I could make a pretty good case for Ohio State getting in to an 8 team play-off before Iowa this past year. I would think playing a Notre Dame type schedule and not playing 13 games is more impressive than losing a championship game having played 4 or 5 cupcakes to start the year.

 

[Seth53]

First off, the bowl games are dinosaurs. The precious Rose Bowl that everybody was so giddy about last year was nothing more than a consolation prize. Oh, they'll still be nice trips for folks who don't make the big show, but they are quickly fading to black regarding national relevancy.

Secondly, if the NCAA really wants the bowl games to have *any* meaning whatsoever, they need to mandate seven wins and a .500 or better conference record as the minimum to be invited. If there aren't enough teams to qualify for all the bowl games, so be it. That'll dry up the dreadful games in a hurry and good riddance.

Thirdly, not sure about eight or sixteen teams. Let's try eight and see how it works.
Four is too few. One thing for sure is you need to play the first round games of the higher seeded team at their home stadium as a reward. Welcome to Iowa in December Florida. If sixteen teams, the first two rounds. The regular season would still mean a hell of a lot.

Finally, please, let's not kid ourselves that major college FB isn't anything but a money-generating business. A sixteen team playoff will add games. Yup. And it will cut into class time for a few teams. Yup. But that's not going to tarnish any faux-'student athlete' premise the NCAA pretends to endorse. That horse is already wayyy out of that barn. Just ask the BB teams in the NCAA/NIT/CBI tournaments.

 

[deanvogs]

Look you are not going to get 16, won't happen. No matter how much money is involved, they are still college students and there is no way college presidents buy off on extending the season. Also as I mentioned above, 16 favors the blue bloods able to go three deep.

8 is better than 4, yup you might get three teams that did not play 13 games........more probable is you will get a couple conference championship losers. I could make a pretty good case for Ohio State getting in to an 8 team play-off before Iowa this past year. I would think playing a Notre Dame type schedule and not playing 13 games is more impressive than losing a championship game having played 4 or 5 cupcakes to start the year.

You might as well pencil in all blue bloods then. If this is the case, Iowa drops to #9 in the final rankings last year, and OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford are your final 8. No way does Iowa go if you have OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford that all either didn't play or didn't lose the week before.

Plus what don't you get about implementing the Conference championship game into the playoffs and calling it the first round? You do understand that the National champion would play the EXACT SAME NUMBER OF GAMES in my scenario as your, don't you?

We are talking about nearly the EXACT SAME THING (now that the Big12 has a conference championship game). I am just saying that the 3 at large should have to play in as well. So I am just saying add 3 more games Conference Championship week between 6 at large teams.

Having 16 teams out of 64 teams making the playoffs will only add excitement. Can you imagine the last week teams are playing for division championships and many others are fighting for a at large big? Last year we had teams in conference championship games that weren't even playing for a playoff birth (Stanford, UNC, Florida).

 

[eveningnewsteam]

In no way does the college football postseason make since on any level. There isnt

You might as well pencil in all blue bloods then. If this is the case, Iowa drops to #9 in the final rankings last year, and OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford are your final 8. No way does Iowa go if you have OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford that all either didn't play or didn't lose the week before.

Plus what don't you get about implementing the Conference championship game into the playoffs and calling it the first round? You do understand that the National champion would play the EXACT SAME NUMBER OF GAMES in my scenario as your, don't you?

We are talking about nearly the EXACT SAME THING (now that the Big12 has a conference championship game). I am just saying that the 3 at large should have to play in as well. So I am just saying add 3 more games Conference Championship week between 6 at large teams.

Having 16 teams out of 64 teams making the playoffs will only add excitement. Can you imagine the last week teams are playing for division championships and many others are fighting for a at large big? Last year we had teams in conference championship games that weren't even playing for a playoff birth (Stanford, UNC, Florida).

Im with ya, Hell Id even expand it further and have more teams fighting for their lives the last few weeks.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

First off, the bowl games are dinosaurs. The precious Rose Bowl that everybody was so giddy about last year was nothing more than a consolation prize. Oh, they'll still be nice trips for folks who don't make the big show, but they are quickly fading to black regarding national relevancy.

Secondly, if the NCAA really wants the bowl games to have *any* meaning whatsoever, they need to mandate seven wins and a .500 or better conference record as the minimum to be invited. If there aren't enough teams to qualify for all the bowl games, so be it. That'll dry up the dreadful games in a hurry and good riddance.

Thirdly, not sure about eight or sixteen teams. Let's try eight and see how it works.
Four is too few. One thing for sure is you need to play the first round games of the higher seeded team at their home stadium as a reward. Welcome to Iowa in December Florida. If sixteen teams, the first two rounds. The regular season would still mean a hell of a lot.

Finally, please, let's not kid ourselves that major college FB isn't anything but a money-generating business. A sixteen team playoff will add games. Yup. And it will cut into class time for a few teams. Yup. But that's not going to tarnish any faux-'student athlete' premise the NCAA pretends to endorse. That horse is already wayyy out of that barn. Just ask the BB teams in the NCAA/NIT/CBI tournaments.

It's certainly heading that way and that's what having playoffs does. I'd still lean towards 8 then 16 teams but if going to 16 would mean eliminating so many of the worthless lower tier bowls I'd sign up for that. Rewarding 5-7 or even 6-6 seasons is just giving away participation ribbons and lining pockets of the big wigs more..

 

[MelroseHawkins]

8 teams just won't work. You are letting in 3 teams who wouldn't have had to play a 13th game into the "playoffs", or worse yet, you let in a team that just LOST a conference championship game into. Then who deserves it more, the team that didn't even win the division or the team that just lost a conference championship game.

Every P5 conference would have a representative which is good. More than likely a team getting an at-large most likely played and lost in the championship game so they would have played the same number of games. The last 3 at large spots given to the teams that float to the top of a precise ranking matrix measuring SOS and results of the games.

I don't find it that difficult to pull off, IMO. Every P5 gets a team in and a chance to go for the National Championship. This makes the regular season very important including scheduling of games. It is not watered down with multiple teams from every conference, just possibly the 3 at large after fishing on top of the Matrix. This will provide those independents like ND a chance to get in as well. Free game for all to obtain those 3 spots.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Funny because every sport I am aware of has expanded the numbers that make the playoffs and yet interest kept increasing. NFL, NBA, MLB.

Football is different. The NCAA has little interest in adding multiple games. The dynamics are different with location of games and filling the stadiums with 70,000 fans for the mid playoff games. The c-ship game will be filled. You cannot compare show those other sports do it with college football. The NCAA has always struggled with trying to determine a champion WITHOUT adding many more games.

 

[westender]

You might as well pencil in all blue bloods then. If this is the case, Iowa drops to #9 in the final rankings last year, and OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford are your final 8. No way does Iowa go if you have OSU, ND, FSU and Stanford that all either didn't play or didn't lose the week before.

Plus what don't you get about implementing the Conference championship game into the playoffs and calling it the first round? You do understand that the National champion would play the EXACT SAME NUMBER OF GAMES in my scenario as your, don't you?

We are talking about nearly the EXACT SAME THING (now that the Big12 has a conference championship game). I am just saying that the 3 at large should have to play in as well. So I am just saying add 3 more games Conference Championship week between 6 at large teams.

Having 16 teams out of 64 teams making the playoffs will only add excitement. Can you imagine the last week teams are playing for division championships and many others are fighting for a at large big? Last year we had teams in conference championship games that weren't even playing for a playoff birth (Stanford, UNC, Florida).

exactly and it will still be a committee selecting teams and if you are team #17 well then you really have no room to complain. Get better.

 

[ibahawkeye]

I understand I'm in the minority but I say keep it with the 4 team playoff.

 

[ChosenChildren]

I think we eventually see 4 16-team conferences and winner of each division plays for their conference title and each title winner plays in the final 4.

This makes the most sense. The conference title games are the de facto quarterfinals. I think this is what Delaney and Bowlsby would like to see.......64 teams. Create a new division for the rest....

 

[Motigerhawk]

16 would be great.
I was watching College Football Live the other day when they had Saban on it, He made a great point about how the playoff is set up now. They had a month off before the semi and then a couple weeks before the final.
He hated the lay off and said it was challenging getting the team prepared. He said the players are pretty much off school from the conf. champ games through the end of the playoffs.

Keep em playing. They have 6 weeks to fit the playoffs in.

 

[westender]

Football is different. The NCAA has little interest in adding multiple games. The dynamics are different with location of games and filling the stadiums with 70,000 fans for the mid playoff games. The c-ship game will be filled. You cannot compare show those other sports do it with college football. The NCAA has always struggled with trying to determine a champion WITHOUT adding many more games.

Works pretty darn good in basketball and people love the un

Football is different. The NCAA has little interest in adding multiple games. The dynamics are different with location of games and filling the stadiums with 70,000 fans for the mid playoff games. The c-ship game will be filled. You cannot compare show those other sports do it with college football. The NCAA has always struggled with trying to determine a champion WITHOUT adding many more games.

You fix any attendance issue by having higher seeded teams host. And if you say well it's too cold in December or January in the Midwest well then I say look at the Bears or the Packers.

When the $$$ is flashed the NCAA's way it will happen. Make no mistake what fires this engine. And it would ramp up interest just like getting to the last week of regular season NFL and having many teams still able to make the playoffs. And by using seeding, it makes winning every game meaningful. You are #1 and you lose the last week, well you get booted down and now you are not seeded #1 so maybe you host 1 game and none thereafter.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

I understand I'm in the minority but I say keep it with the 4 team playoff.

I like 4 better than 16.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Works pretty darn good in basketball and people love the un
THIS ISN'T BASKETBALL.

You fix any attendance issue by having higher seeded teams host. And if you say well it's too cold in December or January in the Midwest well then I say look at the Bears or the Packers.VALID POINT. I DON'T WORRY ABOUT WEATHER EITHER.

When the $$$ is flashed the NCAA's way it will happen.AGREE. WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY. Make no mistake what fires this engine. And it would ramp up interest just like getting to the last week of regular season NFL and having many teams still able to make the playoffs.I JUST DON'T WANT IT WATERED. I LIKE IT THAT EVERYBODY PLAY TO WIN THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP TO GET IN THE PLAYOFF. MAKES THE REGULAR SEASON SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT AND EVERY GAME IS A MUST WIN. And by using seeding, it makes winning every game meaningful. NOT REALLY. You are #1 and you lose the last week, well you get booted down and now you are not seeded #1 so maybe you host 1 game and none thereafter.

 

[westender]

Well its Mr Obvious from Bob & Tom show. So there is contact and there'd be 16 teams in it, just like they do at the level below. Hear lots of complaining from them about them being wore out and tired and yeah any kid would say no I don't want to play an extra few games of football (said no kid ever). Money is steering this ship and money will steer us right into it. Kids will get paid something at that point also.

 

[rdbrett]

I love CFB. Cannot imagine how awesome a 16 team playoff would be. Attendance would not be a problem if held in vicinity of a participating school. I would eliminate a non-conf game to make this work so the boys arent "playing too many games". If it weren't for tradition of bowls, this would have been done already.