1.4 million to Jane (I assume Tracey will now get a check instead of a trial)

My thoughts on this are pretty well documented so I'm certainly not coming at this from Jane's side by ANY stretch....

However, in civil cases like this where there isn't a "smoking gun", it's certainly fair game to establish an evidenciary trail showing a pattern of discrimination against individuals of the same gender, orientation, etc., in order to imply the same actions/treatment is happening here...
There hasn't been one drop of evidence pointing to Jane Meyer being specifically discriminated by the U based on gender and/or sexual orientation. The "pattern of discrimination" you speak of would be applicable if there was at least a tiny amount of evidence pointing to this discrimination specific to Jane Meyer; this evidence does not exist.
 
My thoughts on this are pretty well documented so I'm certainly not coming at this from Jane's side by ANY stretch....

However, in civil cases like this where there isn't a "smoking gun", it's certainly fair game to establish an evidenciary trail showing a pattern of discrimination against individuals of the same gender, orientation, etc., in order to imply the same actions/treatment is happening here...


It's all bad news right now. I'm just thinking more and more that we should pay what we need to and try to make it all go away quietly. I really don't want to have every example of malfeasance laid bare for the world. I'm sure we have out fair share of infractions. I really don't want to see them in the news everyday.
 
There hasn't been one drop of evidence pointing to Jane Meyer being specifically discriminated by the U based on gender and/or sexual orientation. The "pattern of discrimination" you speak of would be applicable if there was at least a tiny amount of evidence pointing to this discrimination specific to Jane Meyer; this evidence does not exist.


Gender discrimination could be hiring a man to replace a woman and paying him $76k more than her.

Sexual orientation discrimination could be taking action (or intensifying the action) that you wouldn't have taken without knowledge of a particular sexual orientation. In the absence of Barta taking similar actions against anyone who wasn't a lesbian, it suggests (not proves) that there may have been sexual orientation discrimination.
 
Gender discrimination could be hiring a man to replace a woman and paying him $76k more than her.

Sexual orientation discrimination could be taking action (or intensifying the action) that you wouldn't have taken without knowledge of a particular sexual orientation. In the absence of Barta taking similar actions against anyone who wasn't a lesbian, it suggests (not proves) that there may have been sexual orientation discrimination.

Not sure about the gay discrimination. Seems hard to prove. Feels more like he dumped on them cuz they weren't likeable.

But Barta turned a blind eye to everything bad that happened with KF's program (13 players in a hospital versus some hurt feelings, do the math). Juries may be stupid, but they can see a double standard when it is shoved in their face. I have a theory that after he got badass with Alford and then got burned with Lickliter, he knew that if he repeated that with KF and things went bad with a new football coach . . . then he would be gone. His lifeline was keeping the moneytree known as Hawkeye football fat and happy. And it is certainly that after recent hires; promotions and contracts.
 
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It's all bad news right now. I'm just thinking more and more that we should pay what we need to and try to make it all go away quietly. I really don't want to have every example of malfeasance laid bare for the world. I'm sure we have out fair share of infractions. I really don't want to see them in the news everyday.

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/...-dealt-another-blow-critical-technology-audit

I don't know that it can go away quietly. The U is up against social justice warriors who still haven't accepted what happened last November. These types are irrational and can't let go of stuff.
 
Not sure about the gay discrimination. Seems hard to prove. Feels more like he dumped on them cuz they weren't likeable.

But Barta turned a blind eye to everything bad that happened with KF's program (13 players in a hospital versus some whiny jocks, do the math). Juries may be stupid, but they can see a double standard when it is shoved in their face. I have a theory that after he got badass with Alford and then got burned with Lickliter, he knew that if he repeated that with KF and things went bad with a new football coach . . . then he would be gone. His lifeline was keeping the moneytree known as Hawkeye football fat and happy. And it is certainly that after recent hires; promotions and contracts.


This is best case scenario. It happens to be my particular take on the situation. Not hard for me to see why a jury would end up siding with Jane though. I'm sure she was a sweet gray haired lady in the court room. Once you believe that Barta did not like Meyer it is not hard to take it further and end up believing that it was because she was a gay, headstrong woman. I still don't believe it myself, but I can see the logical connection for people with no bias in favor of Iowa. I'm not exactly impartial.
 
Greasebum won't get more than Meyer. Her case is weaker and she made less than Meyer.

You have to remember that the legal brain-trust representing the U was so incompetent they couldn't keep a CYCLONE CHEERLEADER foreperson off the jury.

With that type of stupidity representing Iowa, in 12 months the two angry ladies in question might own half the buildings on campus, including the shiny new football complex. To be renamed: The Ellen DeGeneres Dance Hall
 
There hasn't been one drop of evidence pointing to Jane Meyer being specifically discriminated by the U based on gender and/or sexual orientation. The "pattern of discrimination" you speak of would be applicable if there was at least a tiny amount of evidence pointing to this discrimination specific to Jane Meyer; this evidence does not exist.

Completely agree. I was merely pointing out, based on the previous post, that jurors can take the "weight of the evidence" in similar situations into account in the absence of direct "smoking gun" evidence...
 
There hasn't been one drop of evidence pointing to Jane Meyer being specifically discriminated by the U based on gender and/or sexual orientation. The "pattern of discrimination" you speak of would be applicable if there was at least a tiny amount of evidence pointing to this discrimination specific to Jane Meyer; this evidence does not exist.
The jury might have decided that hiring a man and assigning him her duties and paying him more and going back and retroactively changing her work evaluations and then assigning her out of the department and finally firing her because they disagreed over compliance might just be discrimination. Looks like that is what the jury did.
 
The jury might have decided that hiring a man and assigning him her duties and paying him more and going back and retroactively changing her work evaluations and then assigning her out of the department and finally firing her because they disagreed over compliance might just be discrimination. Looks like that is what the jury did.
If she were a man, there wouldn't be any thought of discrimination based on gender. Just because she is female, doesn't mean those decisions were made because of her gender, let alone sexual orientation.
 
If she were a man, there wouldn't be any thought of discrimination based on gender. Just because she is female, doesn't mean those decisions were made because of her gender, let alone sexual orientation.
Perhaps part of the key is he never did that to a man and he's done that (or similar) to other women???
 
Probably because there are 3 million more social justice warriors than idiots.

In the 49 states other than California there were a million more deplorables who voted for Trump than social warriors who voted for Hills. In the People's Republic of California, where anything goes whenever they want, there were 4 million more SJWs who voted Hills than deplorables who voted Trump.
 
There hasn't been one drop of evidence pointing to Jane Meyer being specifically discriminated by the U based on gender and/or sexual orientation. The "pattern of discrimination" you speak of would be applicable if there was at least a tiny amount of evidence pointing to this discrimination specific to Jane Meyer; this evidence does not exist.

Well there is evidence that can be easily construed as discrimination. That was the problem.
 
In the 49 states other than California there were a million more deplorables who voted for Trump than social warriors who voted for Hills. In the People's Republic of California, where anything goes whenever they want, there were 4 million more SJWs who voted Hills than deplorables who voted Trump.

Gotta luv the fact that being a patriot gets you labeled Deplorable by the entitled. They've really outed themselves since 08.
 
In the 49 states other than California there were a million more deplorables who voted for Trump than social warriors who voted for Hills. In the People's Republic of California, where anything goes whenever they want, there were 4 million more SJWs who voted Hills than deplorables who voted Trump.
We get to pick and choose states to leave out now? Awesome but this time what did it look like with Oklahoma and Alabama taken out? I'll wait.
 

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