Wisky takes a hit

MisterLucky

MisterLucky

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Gasser, who was penned in to be the badgers starting PG this season tore his ACL and is out for the season. Tough luck for the kid, but I can't say I feel bad for Bo and the Badgers.
 






MisterLucky said:
Gasser, who was penned in to be the badgers starting PG this season tore his ACL and is out for the season. Tough luck for the kid, but I can't say I feel bad for Bo and the Badgers.
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IMO, WI was already thin in the backcourt. This makes Brust a very important part of their rotation as the only guard with significant experience. By any standard, that's got to be bad for a ball-control team in the B1G.
 


UncleHawk said:
IMO, WI was already thin in the backcourt. This makes Brust a very important part of their rotation as the only guard with significant experience. By any standard, that's got to be bad for a ball-control team in the B1G.
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Lick never had to worry about it...not with Lil Lick on the roster.:D
 


I hate to see any kid go down from an injury. I would much rather beat them at full strength. I will admit that I don't think Wisky lost any sleep when one of our players went down.
 


I am not feeling too sorry for Bo...hey, where is activebadger at? AB is probably writing into ESPN that Gasser wasn't even going to be their starter because Jordan Taylor said George Marshall was going to be better than him.

Bo will have to utilize his bench as he does have a lot of young guards to choose from, but he doesn't normally do that. I feel bad for the kid, but he will be back for the next two years unless this injury lingers.
 






sportstalent said:
I am not feeling too sorry for Bo...hey, where is activebadger at? AB is probably writing into ESPN that Gasser wasn't even going to be their starter because Jordan Taylor said George Marshall was going to be better than him.

Bo will have to utilize his bench as he does have a lot of young guards to choose from, but he doesn't normally do that. I feel bad for the kid, but he will be back for the next two years unless this injury lingers.
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This is hilarious as it sounds exactly like something he would post. +1. :)
 


sportstalent said:
I am not feeling too sorry for Bo...hey, where is activebadger at? AB is probably writing into ESPN that Gasser wasn't even going to be their starter because Jordan Taylor said George Marshall was going to be better than him.

Bo will have to utilize his bench as he does have a lot of young guards to choose from, but he doesn't normally do that. I feel bad for the kid, but he will be back for the next two years unless this injury lingers.
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It seems strange that the ghost guy and activebadger are silent at the same time.
 


Gasser is a HUGE loss for Wisconsin. He isn't their best player, that distinction goes to Jared Berggren or Sam Dekker but he was probably Wisconsin's most "important" player. Even though he is a Junior he had played more minutes than anyone on the roster, he was Wisconsin's best defender and could guard positions 1-3 (he's nearly 6-4") and he might have been Wisconsin's smartest player. The loss cannot be minimized.

That being said, Wisconsin had 7 scholarship players in Bo Ryan's first season as coach. Devin Harris was a true freshman, Mike Wilkinson was a redshirt freshman, Kirk Penney was known just as a spot up shooter and no one had heard of Travon Davis, Charlie Wills or Freddie Owens. Bo won the title with that group.

If anyone can piece it together it will be Bo Ryan, you can never count the man out but losing Bruisewitz for a significant chunk of time and Gasser for the whole season is a blow. Factor in that Wisconsin will most likely have the #1 out of conference schedule in the nation and Bo will have to figure things out quick. Wisconsin's 2nd game of the season is @Florida.....
 




FalseMirage said:
Don't you mean "our" best player, ab?
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I think my screen name should be evidence enough that I'm a Wisconsin follower. I'm not on the team so I dislike the association "we".

further analysis of the loss of Gasser and Bruisewitz. Went from #10 to #33. I'm a stat geek so I his analysis makes logical sense to me so I won't complain. I feel like Bo Ryan is the wildcard in that equation.

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Basketball news gathered from around the net.[/h][h=3]How One Season-Ending Injury Reshapes A Season[/h]By: Dan Hanner
Oct 29, 2012 12:18 PM EDT
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On a day when Marcus Lattimore was injured and shocked the college football world, the college basketball world got horrible news as Wisconsin guard Josh Gasser tore his ACL. Gasser hasn’t been the only college basketball player to get horrible news lately. In the four days since my ESPN the Magazine rankings went to print, we’ve seen Dayton’s Matt Kavanaugh get suspended, BYU’s Stephen Rogers admit his career is over, and Wake Forest’s Daniel Green also tore his ACL. And I’m not even counting the suspension of Missouri’s Michael Dixon. (In my experience, “indefinite suspension†means no more than four games out of the lineup.)
Realistically, injuries and suspensions are part of the game, and all coaches have to deal with them. But the loss of Gasser should get our attention for a number of reasons. First, Wisconsin was a Top 25 team in almost everyone’s preseason rankings, and their returning tempo free numbers suggested they were a borderline Top 10 team. So any injury for Wisconsin should get our attention nationally. But more importantly, Wisconsin doesn’t have any natural substitutes for Gasser in the lineup. He was expected to carry a tremendous load for Wisconsin as a ball-handler this season, and the type of players who will replace Gasser in the lineup have substantially lower expectations. Gasser might not be a preseason all-conference selection, but because of the drop-off at his position with Gasser not in the lineup, Wisconsin’s expectations now plummet. While the tempo free numbers suggested Wisconsin was the 12th best team in the nation prior to the injury, my model now pegs them as the 33rd best team in the country.
Here was Wisconsin’s projection a few weeks ago before we heard that Mike Bruesewitz would be out for several weeks and before Gasser tore his ACL:
Wisconsin
Ht Ft
Ht In
RSCI Rank
Class
Pred ORtg
Pred Min
Pred Poss
Josh Gasser
6
3
 Jr
120.3
85%
15%
Mike Bruesewitz
6
6
 Sr
111.0
73%
18%
Jared Berggren
6
10
100
Sr
103.0
68%
24%
Ben Brust
6
2
 Jr
103.5
55%
20%
Ryan Evans
6
6
 Sr
97.9
47%
25%
Sam Dekker
6
8
19
Fr
105.0
44%
23%
Zak Showalter
6
2
 Fr
96.1
40%
19%
Evan Anderson
6
10
95
So
92.0
35%
20%
Frank Kaminsky
6
11
 So
99.4
32%
19%
George Marshall
5
11
 Fr
95.9
22%
19%
Traevon Jackson
6
2
 So
85.9
Duje Dukan
6
8
 Jr
86.6
SOSmod
1.039
Pred Off
108.2
And now here are Wisconsin’s projections without Gasser and with Bruesewitz missing several games due to injury:
Wisconsin
Ht Ft
Ht In
RSCI Rank
Class
Pred ORtg
Pred Min
Pred Poss
Jared Berggren
6
10
100
Sr
102.8
73%
23%
Ben Brust
6
2
 Jr
103.2
66%
19%
Mike Bruesewitz
6
6
 Sr
110.7
63%
17%
Ryan Evans
6
6
 Sr
97.8
50%
24%
George Marshall
5
11
 Fr
95.9
50%
18%
Zak Showalter
6
2
 Fr
95.9
48%
18%
Sam Dekker
6
8
19
Fr
104.9
47%
22%
Evan Anderson
6
10
95
So
91.8
38%
19%
Frank Kaminsky
6
11
 So
99.2
35%
18%
Traevon Jackson
6
2
 So
85.9
30%
19%
Duje Dukan
6
8
 Jr
86.6
SOSmod
1.039
Pred Off
104.1
Typically, when a highly efficient player leaves the lineup, that has spillover effects on the other players. And we see a little bit of that with Jared Berggren, Ben Brust, and Mike Bruesewitz’s ORtgs falling slightly. But since Gasser was such a passive offensive player, using only 13% of his team’s possessions when on the floor last season, and predicted to use only 15% of his team’s possession when on the floor this season, the offensive impact of Gasser on his teammates is somewhat muted.
But where Gasser’s loss hurts the team the most is that inexperienced players will now have to play major minutes. George Marshall was expected to quietly transition into a back-up PG role this season, but now he will likely have to play major minutes in key situations for his team. And Traevon Jackson, an inefficient two-guard a year ago, will now have to handle some ball-handling duties for the Badgers. (I wouldn’t even be surprised to see Bo Ryan use one of his walk-on upperclassmen at the PG slot this season.)
The result is that the Badger offense is expected to plummet from 108 to 104 this season. Luckily for the Badgers, the team is deep in the post. Most Big Ten coaches would start a player like Sam Dekker, and Bo Ryan has been raving about Frank Kaminsky. So Wisconsin’s defense should be able to stay at an elite level, even if Bruesewitz has to miss a few games.
A few other notes:
Ryan Evans was not an efficient player in his first two seasons for the Badgers, and while he broke out last year, the model is a little skeptical that his development was for real. How much of his success last season was being surrounded by a lineup of efficient players and having Jordan Taylor get him a ton of wide-open looks?
Also, I loved to hear that Bo Ryan thinks Frank Kaminsky will be a factor this season (and the numbers suggest moving him ahead of former Top 100 recruit Evan Anderson may be warranted.) But even accounting for Ryan’s aversion to freshmen, the model certainly thinks Sam Dekker is going to get a chance to play this season.




Read more:RealGM Blog: How One Season Ending Injury Reshapes A Season
 


Also it is very interesting to see the metrics for Michigan. I happen to agree that Michigan is being greatly over-valued. I also think Illinois is being greatly undervalued. If Groce is the right coach to get those players to buy in then there is top tier talent on that Illinois team. It just needs to get on the same page.
 




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