Why I don't like Greg McElroy

theboat

theboat

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Who the heck celebrates getting drafted in football, while chanting JETS JETS JETS, and toasts with wine?
 
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He's one of the best character guys in the draft. If toasting with wine is too pretentious for you, then well, enjoy your high life loser.
 
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Hawksd said:
He's one of the best character guys in the draft. If toasting with wine is too prentensious for you, then well, enjoy your high life loser.
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If you call someone a loser, while trying to use a big word to sound cool, don't spell it wrong. Especially when the word refers to doing things to impress others. I don't think I could make up a more ironic situation. Well done.
 


theboat said:
If you call someone a loser, while trying to use a big word to sound cool, don't spell it wrong. Especially when the word refers to doing things to impress others. I don't think I could make up a more ironic situation. Well done.
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HAAAAAA, the boat went and googled prentensious
 




theboat said:
If you call someone a loser, while trying to use a big word to sound cool, don't spell it wrong. Especially when the word refers to doing things to impress others. I don't think I could make up a more ironic situation. Well done.
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Thanks.


Anyways, some of you Nancies need to lighten up. Go pop a bottle of Chardonnay, maybe eat some fine aged cheese and get a little crazy. It is Saturday after all.

Now if you don't mind, I am going to go back to listening to my Michael Buble CD.
 
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theboat said:
Thanks.


Anyways, some of you Nancies need to lighten up. Go pop a bottle of Chardonnay, maybe eat some fine aged cheese and get a little crazy. It is Saturday after all.

Now if you don't mind, I am going to go back to listening to my Michael Buble CD.
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My "Aha" moment came when I realized that the taste of wine in as dependent upon the situation in which you drink it as is of the wine itself.

When I am at a winery, talking with the wine maker, his passion for his craft is magically transported into my glass. If I take the exact bottle home, it won't taste the same.

The same is true when you are drinking with friends. The energy of the room is magically moved into the wine- making it taste of the experience.

Sometimes, the same magic happens when I sit alone in a quiet spot enjoying the environment around me- and the wine becomes a part of the whole.

The first one I remember having this impact on me was a simple "Firefly" Chardonnay. Not a fancy wine at all, but a great wine that added to the experience that my wife and I had at a quiet picnic near Monterey.
 


Hawksd said:
My "Aha" moment came when I realized that the taste of wine in as dependent upon the situation in which you drink it as is of the wine itself.

When I am at a winery, talking with the wine maker, his passion for his craft is magically transported into my glass. If I take the exact bottle home, it won't taste the same.

The same is true when you are drinking with friends. The energy of the room is magically moved into the wine- making it taste of the experience.

Sometimes, the same magic happens when I sit alone in a quiet spot enjoying the environment around me- and the wine becomes a part of the whole.

The first one I remember having this impact on me was a simple "Firefly" Chardonnay. Not a fancy wine at all, but a great wine that added to the experience that my wife and I had at a quiet picnic near Monterey.
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I'm a dessert wine man myself.
 






Cydkar said:
I'v never had a glass of wine that I liked. I wish I liked it...all my friends do.
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There are a ton of options out there and it's difficult to give reccomendations based on "all wine" and not a particular varietal or even red vs. white. I'll provide a few economical options to get started for each from my personal experience.

White wines under $20, I'd recommend:
- Wente Riva Ranch Chardonnay ($12-15, Trader Joe's)
- Santa Margherita Pinot Grigio ($19-20)
- St Supery Sauvignon Blanc ($9.99 Trader Joes / usually $19.99)
- Lockwood Chardonnay (got this at a Bevmo 5 cent sale, over delivered on price at $7 ea.)
- Rosenblum Chardonnay ($10-12)

Red wines under $20, I'd recommend:
- Spellbound Petite Sirah ($12-15)
- Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon - esp. 2007 ($18-20)
- Hess Collection Cabernet ($15-20)
- Columbia Crest wines from Washington are reliable ($10-15) also look for their H3 (Horse Heaven Hills) label for Cab and Merlot.
- Root 1: Cabernet Sauvignon from Chile ($10-13)
- Bodega Norton Malbec Barrel Select ($10-12)
- Newton Cabernet Red Label ($16-20)

Bargain hunting tips:

1) Look for wines that aren't from the most highly regarded regions for their variety. For example, Napa Cabernet Sauvignon's are often going to be more expensive ($30+), especially those rated well by the likes of Robert Parker ($50-150+). Take a look at undervalued & emerging wine regions such as Paso Robles, Monterey (California Central Coast), Sonoma Coast, Mendocino, Washington State, Chile, Argentina, etc. for great values. (France, Italy et al have theirs too - i.e. there are a lot of great Chianti's for under $20)

2) Expand beyond Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir. There are good values there but I've been finding values more often in red blends, malbec, zinfandel, rhone blends (grenache, syrah, etc.), merlot, most white wine varieties, etc.

3) Find a smaller store that really curates their wines. This may be a Trader Joe's, Bristol Farms, small Von's store, Whole Foods, etc. These stores, especially in more affluent areas, tend to only stock wines their wine buyer felt over-delivered on price... so a $7-10 bottle of wine at Bristol Farms is much less likely to be a disappointment than a $7-10 bottle from a store that carries everything under the sun. (I should note: I can't speak for stores outside of California, it may be different out here from a wine buyer and consumer expectation perspective)

4) Don't be afraid to ask someone at the store for their advice.

5) Just try a lot of new wines, more often than not you'll at least find the wine drinkable and fairly enjoyable - just note what you like & don't like and it will eventually become more clear what to look for. It may not blow you away every time but in the $10-20 range you'll have success more often than not, especially in smaller stores that stand behind what they put on the shelves.
 




Mac50702 said:
Hawksd. I'm more of a sweet wine guy. Give me some examples of good ones. I like Mascato.
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From Napa Valley:
Crepuscle at Swanson Vineyards, taken with blue cheese. Angelica's pretty nice too. They're both pretty sweet taken alone, but with blue cheese it's good.

K&L's Eden Apple Cider (Ice wine) is fantastic. That's their flagship product. It has a bit of apple taste but not too sweet.

Tokay is the king of desert wines.


In purchasing Tokay, you have to realize that it is a highly controlled and classified wine, with a grading system all its own, and made in various ways. No two people will completely agree on which versions of the wine are best, except that anyone who has tried its highest form - Eszencia - will never look back. Eszencia is made from the juice of the most highly-selected grapes, pressed from the natural weight of the grapes themselves. The quality of the grapes is essential, and it is not made in every year.

Having tasted Eszencia a few times, all I can say is that it is incomparable a wine completely unlike any I have ever tasted!

For more common use (i.e. once a week, instead of once in a lifetime), there are a number of very solid, beautiful Tokay makers, including:

- the Royal Tokaji Wine Company:
- winemaker Károly Ã￾ts' family has been making Tokay for centuries
- co-founded by British wine writer Hugh Johnson
- their Eszencia has scored a perfect "100" from Robert Parker

- Demeter Zoltán:
- tending toward a modern and dry interpretation of Tokay
- this is my personal favorite of the various Tokaji styles

- Szepsy Vineyards
- István Szepsy's family has made Tokay since the 17th century
- Jancis Robinson has described his wines as "utterly convincing ... most exciting ... deserve a place in any fine wine lover's cellar ... low key, very quiet, obviously thoughtful ... quest for quality is a daily way of life ... clearly on a journey ... (with) no limits)"
 
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Hawksd said:
There are a ton of options out there and it's difficult to give reccomendations based on "all wine" and not a particular varietal or even red vs. white. I'll provide a few economical options to get started for each from my personal experience.

White wines under $20, I'd recommend:
- Wente Riva Ranch Chardonnay ($12-15, Trader Joe's)
- Santa Margherita Pinot Grigio ($19-20)
- St Supery Sauvignon Blanc ($9.99 Trader Joes / usually $19.99)
- Lockwood Chardonnay (got this at a Bevmo 5 cent sale, over delivered on price at $7 ea.)
- Rosenblum Chardonnay ($10-12)

Red wines under $20, I'd recommend:
- Spellbound Petite Sirah ($12-15)
- Robert Mondavi Cabernet Sauvignon - esp. 2007 ($18-20)
- Hess Collection Cabernet ($15-20)
- Columbia Crest wines from Washington are reliable ($10-15) also look for their H3 (Horse Heaven Hills) label for Cab and Merlot.
- Root 1: Cabernet Sauvignon from Chile ($10-13)
- Bodega Norton Malbec Barrel Select ($10-12)
- Newton Cabernet Red Label ($16-20)

Bargain hunting tips:

1) Look for wines that aren't from the most highly regarded regions for their variety. For example, Napa Cabernet Sauvignon's are often going to be more expensive ($30+), especially those rated well by the likes of Robert Parker ($50-150+). Take a look at undervalued & emerging wine regions such as Paso Robles, Monterey (California Central Coast), Sonoma Coast, Mendocino, Washington State, Chile, Argentina, etc. for great values. (France, Italy et al have theirs too - i.e. there are a lot of great Chianti's for under $20)

2) Expand beyond Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir. There are good values there but I've been finding values more often in red blends, malbec, zinfandel, rhone blends (grenache, syrah, etc.), merlot, most white wine varieties, etc.

3) Find a smaller store that really curates their wines. This may be a Trader Joe's, Bristol Farms, small Von's store, Whole Foods, etc. These stores, especially in more affluent areas, tend to only stock wines their wine buyer felt over-delivered on price... so a $7-10 bottle of wine at Bristol Farms is much less likely to be a disappointment than a $7-10 bottle from a store that carries everything under the sun. (I should note: I can't speak for stores outside of California, it may be different out here from a wine buyer and consumer expectation perspective)

4) Don't be afraid to ask someone at the store for their advice.

5) Just try a lot of new wines, more often than not you'll at least find the wine drinkable and fairly enjoyable - just note what you like & don't like and it will eventually become more clear what to look for. It may not blow you away every time but in the $10-20 range you'll have success more often than not,especially in smaller stores that stand behind what they put on the shelves.
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Thanks for the first date. Even though i said i would call, i may not
 




"Having tasted Eszencia a few times, all I can say is that it is incomparable a wine completely unlike any I have ever tasted!"

The band comes on and nails the halftime show!! Nice....Never a doubt
 


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