Good Article on Colorado and the Economic Realties of the New Age of CFB

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NorthKCHawk

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Iowa is not mentioned in this article, but it provides some good insights about the haves and the have nots in major college football. It seems that a lot of schools, especially those outside the SEC and Big10, are having to borrow substantial dollars from the school's general funds just to keep up with the arms race in coaching and NIL. Not a sustainable trendline, IMHO.

Reporting on the story through the lens of CU and Coach Prime's bloated contract was a good angle. Prime's positive impact upon CU's economics in the football program is undeniable, but they have no way to pay for what he costs. And, I would bet good money he will not be bowl eligible for two of his first three years on the job. 10 mil for that?

www.usatoday.com

Colorado is paying big bucks for Deion Sanders and his players, but how? Answer is ‘TBD’

Colorado has committed to paying tens of millions for coach Deion Sanders and his players. The question is how. Right now, it's a mystery
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I'm waiting for the money to dry up. While it is good for programs. The payments made to players and some either failing to meet the hopes of the fan base or potentially leaving or getting injured. Like any company, they don't like to have failed investments. Will there ever be a point where big money donors decide not to take that chance?
 


HawkPowerlifter said:
I'm waiting for the money to dry up. While it is good for programs. The payments made to players and some either failing to meet the hopes of the fan base or potentially leaving or getting injured. Like any company, they don't like to have failed investments. Will there ever be a point where big money donors decide not to take that chance?
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Not at the Blue Bloods. These private jet donors have FU money. Why not spend it on something you are passionate about, even if the money is not always well spent. I would. If I had that kind of money.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
Iowa is not mentioned in this article, but it provides some good insights about the haves and the have nots in major college football. It seems that a lot of schools, especially those outside the SEC and Big10, are having to borrow substantial dollars from the school's general funds just to keep up with the arms race in coaching and NIL. Not a sustainable trendline, IMHO.

Reporting on the story through the lens of CU and Coach Prime's bloated contract was a good angle. Prime's positive impact upon CU's economics in the football program is undeniable, but they have no way to pay for what he costs. And, I would bet good money he will not be bowl eligible for two of his first three years on the job. 10 mil for that?

www.usatoday.com

Colorado is paying big bucks for Deion Sanders and his players, but how? Answer is ‘TBD’

Colorado has committed to paying tens of millions for coach Deion Sanders and his players. The question is how. Right now, it's a mystery
www.usatoday.com
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The celebrity coach splash hires should be coming to an end here pretty quick. I really think it'll happen.

Deion and Billy Tar Heels are failing spectacularly after conning donors into giving them huge bags and buyouts for negative ROI. Those donors didn't get to be millionaires and billionaires by making a bunch of poor money decisions in a row and with this kind of investment there's no pencil pushing to make it not as bad on paper.

The intangible cost that most fans and media aren't considering is the wasteland left after the buyouts checks are cashed. How do you come back from that in the next hire? As we've seen at Iowa in the past 5 years, one laughing stock situation will haunt you for a long time.

Colorado and UNC went all in with pocket aces and got burned on the flop by a 6-J off suit. Donors at those schools aren't going to play that game again unless they have Pickens money, but the schools with Pickens money don't generally have to bring in the types of guys like Belichick and Sanders as a hail mary.
 


HawkPowerlifter said:
I'm waiting for the money to dry up. While it is good for programs. The payments made to players and some either failing to meet the hopes of the fan base or potentially leaving or getting injured. Like any company, they don't like to have failed investments. Will there ever be a point where big money donors decide not to take that chance?
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Interesting take.Hmm.
 


This was my concern with "paying the players".
Not that they don't deserve it. But, even if there is "new money" coming in, it's finite. And offset in general by rising costs. I've always said the money that used to go to "football" and "athletics" is now diluted as some of it is now going to players.

At some point, the math won't math. Some schools will be able to do better than others. Others won't.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
Not at the Blue Bloods. These private jet donors have FU money. Why not spend it on something you are passionate about, even if the money is not always well spent. I would. If I had that kind of money.
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Totally agree. I like it when I find some band or artist on TikTok when they first start posting and the algorithm feeds them to me....because it knows what I like. And I follow that band/artist and watch them take off. Go viral. Etc.

I mean...like you said, if I had FU money, I'd book these bands to play in my backyard or at a local venue and invite all my friends. And then in 2 years when that band takes off...my friends would be like "so cool we got to see them before they took off". I'd get to hang out backstage with them when they come through, or go along and party with them on their European tour. Yes, I fully realize it's all transactional and not a genuine relationship. Either with the band, or my friends. I'm buying what I want. They're selling what they have to offer.

I would totally do that. Genetically, I'm not sure I'd have the same interest for sports. But I can totally see how it would happen.

I mean it's not new. I remember seeing a Hawkeye basketballer peeling himself out of the driver's seat of a Porsche at that Randall's grocery over by Sycamore Mall. Not a store often visited by students at the time. Of course, unfolding from the passenger seat is the actual owner of the car....a mid 40s or 50s well dressed dude. Kudos for seemingly playing by the rules at the time in that respect. While quite public, that seems like an easy rule to break. "Here's the keys if you wanna run to the store. I'm just gonna sit and read my book. If anybody asks, just tell them you dropped me off at the Walgreens across the parking lot."
 


I agree it is not sustainable. This is really going to separate teams drastically into different tiers with the BIG & SEC reigning the most power with $$$$. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE OUR FAVORITE TEAM in one of these conferences, just to at least be viewed as relevant.

The changes already have separated the teams into similar at least 3 tiers, similar to MLB and the lower divisions of minor baseball.
 
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HawkPowerlifter said:
I agree with some of the comments. The Blue Bloods will still have their "FU" money, but I think other colleges will eventually feel the effects if they don't see the desired results. But who knows. College athletics are the cash cow for universities.
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The BIG and the SEC are going to be the only two real power conferences and going separate themselves from the other conferences. The 4-5* players and great coaches are all going to go after the $$$$ these two conferences will have over all the other conferences. All the good players in the portal will look at BIG & SEC teams first for the $$$ and those leftover will end up going to other P4 teams.
 




HawkPowerlifter said:
I agree with some of the comments. The Blue Bloods will still have their "FU" money, but I think other colleges will eventually feel the effects if they don't see the desired results. But who knows. College athletics are the cash cow for universities.
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Not all the time and not for every university and depends on the sport. Iowa football historically has supported most of the other sports at Iowa. Some are not self-sustaining. It's even more difficult now if having to support the demands of players and coaches salaries.
 


HawkPowerlifter said:
I'm waiting for the money to dry up. While it is good for programs. The payments made to players and some either failing to meet the hopes of the fan base or potentially leaving or getting injured. Like any company, they don't like to have failed investments. Will there ever be a point where big money donors decide not to take that chance?
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I think the money will just shift in regards to where it comes from.

It will move away from individual donors and be more derived from other sources like private equity as mentioned in another thread, and media contracts.

One could make an argument for media contracts just being a subset of private equity, but there are enough distinctions that make me consider them separately.

All I know is that the money isn't going away, it will just move around. We're still in the Wild West phase of this thing.
 


MelroseHawkins said:
The BIG and the SEC are going to be the only two real power conferences and going separate themselves from the other conferences. The 4-5* players and great coaches are all going to go after the $$$$ these two conferences will have over all the other conferences. All the good players in the portal will look at BIG & SEC teams first for the $$$ and those leftover will end up going to other P4 teams.
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I agree. It will come to the point of having these "power" conferences and the rest will get scraps.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
Not at the Blue Bloods. These private jet donors have FU money. Why not spend it on something you are passionate about, even if the money is not always well spent. I would. If I had that kind of money.
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Yep. I would be doing the same shit Cody Campbell is doing for Texas Tech. He is taking care of the entire athletic department. If I sold my oil and gas company for 4.08 billion dollars I would definitely be using my “chump change” for bullshit I am passionate about.
 




hawkinn3 said:
When we have our next economic collapse we’ll really see a change. The AI bubble has about a year.
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AI isn't going to burst. I use it almost every day in my work life and it saves me soooo much time with mundane stuff it's unbelievable.

I use Excel very heavily analyzing and manipulating data. If there's some really discombobulated stuff I want to do with formulas or a problem I need to solve I just tell it conversationally what I need to do and it spits out formulas structured like I never would have thought of number one, and would've wasted a ton of time googling and trying to find solutions for number two. It's cut/paste in 20 seconds and I'm done. If I have a big, long nested formula that's erroring out and I can't find what's wrong, I cut and paste it into chatGPT and it instantly tells me what's wrong, and as a bonus spits out the corrected one that I can just cut and paste to get moving. Yeah it sounds to troglodytes like I'm being lazy and should find the problem and solution on my own, but would your boss approve of you doing long division on paper for 3 weeks to calculate profit margins on 1,000 different line items? No, we have calculators (computers) to do it faster. Same thing here. Yes I can do all that stuff on my own, but time is money and with AI I can do my job easier and faster.

I'm in Teams meetings multiple times a day, and CoPilot spits out meeting notes/minutes/action items/deadlines that are SO much better and faster and thorough and more accurate than any human could be. The instant the meeting is over, all attendees get a copy of the meeting notes with action items via email. Like 30 seconds later. It's amazing.

Because of the breadth of AI knowledge it knows all of the SQL data table structure for our ERP system. Where I used to have to build reports 100% myself manually, now I just tell it..."I'm using XYZ ERP software and I need a report that contains this, and this, and this, and this, and I want it to show this, and this, and this data, also including calculated fields to show recipients these certain 10 data points. Write me a SQL statement in SSRS or MS Access." 10 seconds later it's spit out and I can cut/paste. Now that I just saved 3 hours, I can afford to spend a half hour validating it against system data and send it out. Just saved 2 and a half hours.

If I'm running into an issue with our ERP system I can email a consultant in the UK and wait 6 hours to hear back, and then have 10 emails back and forth trying to figure it out, or spend hours going through software documentation looking for an answer and still not find it, or I can tell ChatGPT my exact, specifc issue conversationally and have it solved in two minutes. If I still have questions that I need more specific details on I just ask it again.

Tons of examples I could go on and on about.
 


Fryowa said:
AI isn't going to burst. I use it almost every day in my work life and it saves me soooo much time with mundane stuff it's unbelievable.

I use Excel very heavily analyzing and manipulating data. If there's some really discombobulated stuff I want to do with formulas or a problem I need to solve I just tell it conversationally what I need to do and it spits out formulas structured like I never would have thought of number one, and would've wasted a ton of time googling and trying to find solutions for number two. It's cut/paste in 20 seconds and I'm done. If I have a big, long nested formula that's erroring out and I can't find what's wrong, I cut and paste it into chatGPT and it instantly tells me what's wrong, and as a bonus spits out the corrected one that I can just cut and paste to get moving. Yeah it sounds to troglodytes like I'm being lazy and should find the problem and solution on my own, but would your boss approve of you doing long division on paper for 3 weeks to calculate profit margins on 1,000 different line items? No, we have calculators (computers) to do it faster. Same thing here. Yes I can do all that stuff on my own, but time is money and with AI I can do my job easier and faster.

I'm in Teams meetings multiple times a day, and CoPilot spits out meeting notes/minutes/action items/deadlines that are SO much better and faster and thorough and more accurate than any human could be. The instant the meeting is over, all attendees get a copy of the meeting notes with action items via email. Like 30 seconds later. It's amazing.

Because of the breadth of AI knowledge it knows all of the SQL data table structure for our ERP system. Where I used to have to build reports 100% myself manually, now I just tell it..."I'm using XYZ ERP software and I need a report that contains this, and this, and this, and this, and I want it to show this, and this, and this data, also including calculated fields to show recipients these certain 10 data points. Write me a SQL statement in SSRS or MS Access." 10 seconds later it's spit out and I can cut/paste. Now that I just saved 3 hours, I can afford to spend a half hour validating it against system data and send it out. Just saved 2 and a half hours.

If I'm running into an issue with our ERP system I can email a consultant in the UK and wait 6 hours to hear back, and then have 10 emails back and forth trying to figure it out, or spend hours going through software documentation looking for an answer and still not find it, or I can tell ChatGPT my exact, specifc issue conversationally and have it solved in two minutes. If I still have questions that I need more specific details on I just ask it again.

Tons of examples I could go on and on about.
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How do I stop my head from spinning?
 


Fryowa said:
The celebrity coach splash hires should be coming to an end here pretty quick. I really think it'll happen.

Deion and Billy Tar Heels are failing spectacularly after conning donors into giving them huge bags and buyouts for negative ROI. Those donors didn't get to be millionaires and billionaires by making a bunch of poor money decisions in a row and with this kind of investment there's no pencil pushing to make it not as bad on paper.

The intangible cost that most fans and media aren't considering is the wasteland left after the buyouts checks are cashed. How do you come back from that in the next hire? As we've seen at Iowa in the past 5 years, one laughing stock situation will haunt you for a long time.

Colorado and UNC went all in with pocket aces and got burned on the flop by a 6-J off suit. Donors at those schools aren't going to play that game again unless they have Pickens money, but the schools with Pickens money don't generally have to bring in the types of guys like Belichick and Sanders as a hail mary.
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The Belichick hire was very shaky. A career pro coach moving to college? Naw.
 


HuckFinn said:
How do I stop my head from spinning?
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Download the Gemini app on your phone and just start asking it random stuff. Especially if you need to figure something out that you’re wondering about. Great gateway to get started.

You were an educator, check this out. I told ChatGPT I need a 15 question quiz on the first 5 chapters of Moby Dick, 10 multiple choice, 5 true false, with answer key. It took 4.7 seconds (real time) to give me this. And then it asked me if I wanted it in a printable format or wanted blanks for student answers…

Sure! Here's a 15-question quiz on the first five chapters of Moby-Dick by Herman Melville. It includes:

  • 10 multiple choice questions
  • 5 true/false questions
  • An answer key at the end

Moby-Dick Quiz: Chapters 1–5​

Multiple Choice (Choose the best answer)​

  1. What is the famous first line of Moby-Dick?
    A) “It was the best of times...”
    B) “Call me Ishmael.”
    C) “Once upon a time...”
    D) “All hands on deck!”
  2. Why does Ishmael go to sea?
    A) To search for treasure
    B) To find his lost brother
    C) To cure his depression and avoid killing himself
    D) To join a whaling protest
  3. What type of ship does Ishmael want to sail on?
    A) A merchant ship
    B) A navy warship
    C) A whaling ship
    D) A fishing schooner
  4. What is the name of the inn where Ishmael first stays in New Bedford?
    A) The Red Lantern
    B) The Sea Serpent
    C) The Spouter-Inn
    D) The Harpooner’s Rest
  5. Who is the proprietor of the Spouter-Inn?
    A) Father Mapple
    B) Queequeg
    C) Peter Coffin
    D) Captain Peleg
  6. What unusual decoration does Ishmael notice in the Spouter-Inn?
    A) A whale skeleton
    B) A painting with a mysterious, stormy scene
    C) A giant harpoon hanging from the ceiling
    D) A portrait of Captain Ahab
  7. How does Ishmael describe the painting in the Spouter-Inn?
    A) As a peaceful seascape
    B) As utterly terrifying and confusing
    C) As a battle between sea monsters
    D) As a clear depiction of a whale hunt
  8. What does Ishmael learn about the sleeping arrangements at the inn?
    A) He gets a private room
    B) He has to sleep outside
    C) He must share a bed with a stranger
    D) He sleeps in a hammock in the common room
  9. What is Queequeg’s profession?
    A) A blacksmith
    B) A harpooner
    C) A cook
    D) A sailor in the merchant navy
  10. How does Ishmael initially feel about sharing a bed with Queequeg?
    A) He’s delighted
    B) He’s terrified and disturbed
    C) He doesn’t care at all
    D) He insists on sleeping on the floor

✅ True or False​

  1. Ishmael expresses a deep fear of the ocean in the first chapter.
  2. The Spouter-Inn is located in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
  3. Queequeg is from a fictional island in the South Pacific.
  4. Ishmael and Queequeg become quick friends after meeting.
  5. Captain Ahab is introduced in detail in the first five chapters.

Answer Key​

Multiple Choice

  1. B) “Call me Ishmael.”
  2. C) To cure his depression and avoid killing himself
  3. C) A whaling ship
  4. C) The Spouter-Inn
  5. C) Peter Coffin
  6. B) A painting with a mysterious, stormy scene
  7. B) As utterly terrifying and confusing
  8. C) He must share a bed with a stranger
  9. B) A harpooner
  10. B) He’s terrified and disturbed
True/False
11. False – He finds the sea soothing and often goes there when feeling restless.
12. True
13. True – Queequeg is from the fictional island of Rokovoko.
14. True – Despite initial fear, Ishmael comes to like and respect Queequeg quickly.
15. False – Captain Ahab is not introduced directly in the first five chapters.

Would you like this in a printable format (PDF or DOC), or need a version with student blanks for answers?
 


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