Josh Jackson Update

RobHowe

RobHowe

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We had access to players today. Will post some video in a bit.

Josh was asked about his upcoming decision. He said he's 50-50 about going to the NFL or returning for his senior season. He said he sees pros and cons with both.

He said he would be announcing his decision after the Pinstripe Bowl.
 
RobHowe said:
We had access to players today. Will post some video in a bit.

Josh was asked about his upcoming decision. He said he's 50-50 about going to the NFL or returning for his senior season. He said he sees pros and cons with both.

He said he would be announcing his decision after the Pinstripe Bowl.
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IMO he's just playing the politically correct angle, as he should. As much as I want him to come back, he really shouldn't
 
Selfishly I want him to come back but I think he's gone and that's the smart financial move. I'm happy he's at least playing in the bowl game!
 
PCHawk said:
I agree with him being PC. But there is a reason to come back. Memories.
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Phil Parker did kind of put it out there that Jackson had a physical talent edge over King, but King understood the coverage schemes a lot better going into the NFL. Parker also discussed using dime against certain opponents and in passing situations. This would make for even more learning opportunities should Jackson stay.

The extra year for King was a bit of a disappointment after 2015. It obviously did hurt Kings draft position and starting salary, to a degree. It became obvious in NFL camp that King was going to be a starter and would stay that way. Did the extra year of experience help King become a starter at the next level or was he already sufficiently seasoned. (I don't know enough to say)
 
AreWeThereYet said:
Phil Parker did kind of put it out there that Jackson had a physical talent edge over King, but King understood the coverage schemes a lot better going into the NFL. Parker also discussed using dime against certain opponents and in passing situations. This would make for even more learning opportunities should Jackson stay.

The extra year for King was a bit of a disappointment after 2015. It obviously did hurt Kings draft position and starting salary, to a degree. It became obvious in NFL camp that King was going to be a starter and would stay that way. Did the extra year of experience help King become a starter at the next level or was he already sufficiently seasoned. (I don't know enough to say)
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NFL players have more time to devote to learning, but by all means go ahead and risk losing $$ because one would rather learn at the collegiate level. Btw, it is well known that King lost guaranteed $ sticking around another year.
 
tksirius said:
NFL players have more time to devote to learning, but by all means go ahead and risk losing $$ because one would rather learn at the collegiate level. Btw, it is well known that King lost guaranteed $ sticking around another year.
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That's assuming they let you stick around long enough to learn. There is a lot that goes into it. You have to figure if you stay, it will cost you anywhere from a little money to a lot of money. But you are guaranteed to have your year. There are a lot of people that want that one last year of college. It's more important than the potential lost money.
 
tksirius said:
NFL players have more time to devote to learning, but by all means go ahead and risk losing $$ because one would rather learn at the collegiate level. Btw, it is well known that King lost guaranteed $ sticking around another year.
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Guaranteed money, yes. But guaranteed NFL longevity or the chance to start? We'll never know. It's possible (I'm not saying it's true) that the extra year of seasoning got him to a better position to start and stay in the pros, thus extending his career and money ceiling. The problem is that we'll never be able to test the contra-positive.
 
AreWeThereYet said:
Phil Parker did kind of put it out there that Jackson had a physical talent edge over King, but King understood the coverage schemes a lot better going into the NFL. Parker also discussed using dime against certain opponents and in passing situations. This would make for even more learning opportunities should Jackson stay.

The extra year for King was a bit of a disappointment after 2015. It obviously did hurt Kings draft position and starting salary, to a degree. It became obvious in NFL camp that King was going to be a starter and would stay that way. Did the extra year of experience help King become a starter at the next level or was he already sufficiently seasoned. (I don't know enough to say)
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I also believe part of the King situation is that he isn't a NFL corner and I believe he's moved to safety. I think that is what affected his draft status, more than coming back to Iowa for his SR season.
 
ArvadaHawk said:
I also believe part of the King situation is that he isn't a NFL corner and I believe he's moved to safety. I think that is what affected his draft status, more than coming back to Iowa for his SR season.
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Nope, he's a corner in the NFL.
 
ArvadaHawk said:
I also believe part of the King situation is that he isn't a NFL corner and I believe he's moved to safety. I think that is what affected his draft status, more than coming back to Iowa for his SR season.
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Yeah it all together factored but if he'd have came out after his JR yr he wouldn't have fell to the 5th round. Maybe 3rd... He didn't get taller or shorter or faster or slower he was who he was. Falling to the 3rd or so would have still been further then what some had said with him being a 1st or 2nd rounder. I didn't buy that at the time although some were trying to sell it. I didn't think King was fast enough and would be either a safety or nickel guy. Kinda like Hyde. Although physically Hyde is taller and maybe more athletic/faster then King they both just fit that role better then an outside corner.
 
tksirius said:
NFL players have more time to devote to learning, but by all means go ahead and risk losing $$ because one would rather learn at the collegiate level. Btw, it is well known that King lost guaranteed $ sticking around another year.
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In King's case, I would tend to agree that he lost money for sticking around another year, and not just off the front end. A lot of that has to do with his understanding of the position and the game. Jackson's case is a little different. He is obviously a better man coverage guy on the talent end of things. People that know far better than you or I, say he doesn't know the coverage schemes or understand the game the way King did at this point though. So there is that.

King probably didn't benefit a huge amount understanding the game given the high level of understanding he already had. His $ leverage after his final year was worse, given a down year for the team in 2016. His personal development and maturity, it is hard to say given we don't know him. He got his degree. Jackson will already have his.

There's a lot of things to think about for Mr. Jackson.
 
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