Badger fans are turning on Bo Ryan and I mean fast!

Ryan's teams would slow games down to unwatchable levels and mug other teams and not get called for it when they are playing at home. Games at the Kohl center are more like rugby, MAYBE the refs are starting to make them play basketball again.
 




WindsorHawk said:
And if he has grandchildren they are probably scared of him...
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Hahaha exactly! And if he's married I'm sure his wife wants him as far away from home as possible. Poor woman would deserve a Nobel Peace Prize if she could manage to keep him happy 24/7.
 


As a hawk fan living in Madison, I'm very much enjoying watching Wisconsin's home losses pile up. Most fans I'm around are frustrated with the recent play of the team, but still feel the team is somewhere between the undefeated team at the beginning of the season and the poor one that has shown up lately.

I don't appreciate Bo's sideline antics, but off the court he is well liked here. He and his wife have volunteered with a hospice I'm associated with and I have found him very personable when I've interacted with him.
 


I've watched four or five of their games this year and have thought they have been very over rated. I don't see much that scares me with their team.
 


DP5555 said:
Says the guy who vehemently claimed Royce White would be a much better NBA player than Harrison Barnes (you're never gonna live that one down).

Look, we don't need to argue specifics about KF and the ups and downs of the football team. My main point is that a message board is a place where anyone can have a voice. In some cases that's a beautiful thing. In some cases it's a freakin train wreck. Every single fan base has fans who let their emotions get the best of them, and that often leads them to saying things that aren't even remotely rational.

Bo Ryan has brought a ton of success to Wisconsin basketball. They are still a tourney team in my opinion. The people claiming they are ready for someone different had better be careful what they wish for, and it would serve them well to think twice about what they are saying.
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You're the guy that had to bring KF into the thread. Don't complain about the responses you get.
 


DP5555 said:
Says the guy who vehemently claimed Royce White would be a much better NBA player than Harrison Barnes (you're never gonna live that one down). .
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Im not? Oh no.

Dude never played, proves nothing.

That disscusion was all based around on the court ability, for anyone to act like they were proven correct because of what actually unfolded is laughable.

If anyone actually predicted he would not play than they can say they were right.

And what does that have to do with football seasons? You exaggerated, got called on it and made a pathetic attempt to lash out in retaliation.
 


lightning1 said:
You're the guy that had to bring KF into the thread. Don't complain about the responses you get.
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I'm comparing the situations because they are similar. Both veteran coaches who have brought a lot of success to their respective programs. Both programs have fans who lose touch with reality. I was using it as an example to remind us not to be too hipocritical about the few in the Wisconsin fan base who are turning on Bo.

Where am I complaining about the responses? I said let's not compare specifics about the KF situation precisely because I didnt want my post to derail the thread into a KF discussion. Lord knows we've had enough of those.
 
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RocknRollface said:
Im not? Oh no.

Dude never played, proves nothing.

That disscusion was all based around on the court ability, for anyone to act like they were proven correct because of what actually unfolded is laughable.

If anyone actually predicted he would not play than they can say they were right.

And what does that have to do with football seasons? You exaggerated, got called on it and made a pathetic attempt to lash out in retaliation.
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I don't think I ever took a position on this. However, the guy that plays is better than the guy that doesn't play...by default. It's like a forfeit. White can't win if he doesn't play.
 


RocknRollface said:
Im not? Oh no.

Dude never played, proves nothing.

That disscusion was all based around on the court ability, for anyone to act like they were proven correct because of what actually unfolded is laughable.

If anyone actually predicted he would not play than they can say they were right.

And what does that have to do with football seasons? You exaggerated, got called on it and made a pathetic attempt to lash out in retaliation.
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Where did I exaggerate? I pointed out your Royce White vs Harrison Barnes prediction because it is a perfect example of a message board poster who thinks he knows what he's talking about, but really has no idea. Which happens routinely on boards from all fan bases including the meltdown taking place with Wiscy fans. Boards give people with irrational opinions a way to express themselves. There is no filter.

Regarding your Royce White prediction... Dude never played proves everything! How do you not take attitude, work ethic, and off the court issues into consideration when trying to predict NBA potential or who you would draft first? Those things have an enormous impact on what a player becomes. Harrison Barnes excels at all three while Royce White is miserable at all three. On the court ability isn't the only thing anyone should take into account. The fact you failed miserably to look at the big picture is the point. Don't try to backtrack from it. Even the Rockets GM has owned up that he made quite possibly the worst 1st round pick in the history of the NBA. Why? Because he failed to look at the big picture.
 


Funny how the national hacks were saying just three or four weeks ago that this was Bo Ryan's best team he's ever had.
 




As we all learned very well under Lick, their slow, plodding style of play is excruciating to watch when you're losing. It's okay when you're winning, as they've been doing for the past several years, but now they're feeling what we felt for three years under Lick. Suck it Bucky!
 


ATLHawkeye said:
As we all learned very well under Lick, their slow, plodding style of play is excruciating to watch when you're losing. It's okay when you're winning, as they've been doing for the past several years, but now they're feeling what we felt for three years under Lick. Suck it Bucky!
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Agree with you 100%. It is terribly boring to watch. The only difference is Bo has had a lot more success recruiting players who fit that style of ball, therefore he's had much more success with it. They don't have as many big bruisers this year like they have in years past. It seems like they've had at least two big white treetops down low for the last decade, and they could usually stretch a defense out by shooting the ball as well. I know Frank Kaminsky sort of fits that mold, but he isn't as big as guys they've had in the past, and they don't have anyone to be his sidekick.

- Last year they had Berggren, Kaminsky, and Bruesewitz.
- Before that it was Berggren and Jon Leuer.

Plus the combination of Jordan Taylor, Ryan Evans, and Gasser was much more productive than what Jackson, Dekker, and Brust have been. Some of that is probably because they managed to get more production from their bigs. Either way this team just doesn't fit the same mold as the Wisconsin teams we've grown accustomed to in the last 5 years.

On the flip side, Lick couldn't get anyone to come to Iowa to play that style of ball. Which made it even more brutal to watch. I remember watching Iowa vs Wisconsin games under Lick, and I swear they struggled to break 50.
 


DP5555 said:
I'm comparing the situations because they are similar. Both veteran coaches who have brought a lot of success to their respective programs. Both programs have fans who lose touch with reality. I was using it as an example to remind us not to be too hipocritical about the few in the Wisconsin fan base who are turning on Bo.

Where am I complaining about the responses? I said let's not compare specifics about the KF situation precisely because I didnt want my post to derail the thread into a KF discussion. Lord knows we've had enough of those.
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Lets agree to leave KF on the football board where he belongs.
 


DP5555 said:
I understand what you're saying, but I wasn't addressing his age. Until he says he's thinking about retirement I'm going to assume he wants to be their head coach. He doesn't exactly seem like the kind of guy who wants to be sitting at home waiting to die. I was addressing the fact there are people on their message boards saying they are ready for someone different. Considering the success he's had at Wisconsin that is laughable. Especially when it looks like they can still make the tournament. It just screams "I'm a spoiled rotten fan and I've forgotten what school I'm actually cheering for". Unfortunately, winning consistently tends to bring along unrealistic expectations with it as well. It's incredibly difficult to sustain a high level of success at a school like Wisconsin or Iowa. Fans will always continue to expect more and more, but sometimes they need to take a step back and realize what they have is pretty sweet compared to where the program has been.

The only point I think an individual can make is that the entire Jared Uthoff situation really shined a bright light on the kind of jerkoff Bo Ryan is. I wouldn't be surprised if his demeanor has slowly started to turn people away, but until we see a noticeable difference in their recruiting I'm not sure you can even make that claim. It hasn't seemed to be a problem thus far.
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Hopefully, when Bo Ryan does retire he won't just sit around and wait to die. There aren't to many people that want to get old, and there aren't to many people that want to die, but it is the way of the world. Bo Ryan is a pretty good coach, but he doesn't have the final say on how his life will turn out. There are a lot of people that think there life is over when they retire, but if someone is healthy, there are plenty of things to do in life. Bo Ryan looks pretty healthy, but that doesn't mean he can run a major college basketball program like he could when he was in his forties. He might be a great coach for another ten years, but he might not too.
 


I must admit that I loved watching Royce play at ISU. He was certainly entertaining. His psychological problems with flying is costing him millions. Think I would take a powerful sleeping pill if nothing else.....

I really liked Harrison's play in HS but he was not as dominant in college and had an enormous ego. Always a turnoff. I remember in the Kentucky game in the Tournament, which UNC lost, he called one of the Kentucky playes a B****. Somewhat classless. However he is a very talented NBA player and Royce doesn't play.....

:rolleyes:
 




ssckelley said:
I still think it is. Previous years teams not as talented they slow the game down.
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Really Kelley? I suppose one could argue that they are more talented than in years past. I just don't think they are as tough. When you play the style of basketball that Bo Ryan wants his teams to play I think toughness is more important than athleticism. They just can't push people around like they used to be able to, and I think it's affecting their ability to win games.
 


DP5555 said:
Really Kelley? I suppose one could argue that they are more talented than in years past. I just don't think they are as tough. When you play the style of basketball that Bo Ryan wants his teams to play I think toughness is more important than athleticism. They just can't push people around like they used to be able to, and I think it's affecting their ability to win games.
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Yeah, this years team likes to get out and run a little bit more which gets a way from Bo's style of play. I have not looked this up but I think this years team is averaging more points (and giving up more) than any of Bo's teams. But if they get into a slump where they are not hitting the 3 ball they become very average.
 


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