Uthoff Rust

This thread is full of lolz. If you think HS Uthoff is even close to 2 years under amazing D1 coaches Uthoff then you need to go home, because you're drunk. So drunk.
 


Wassabbe said:
Do you people really not get what the OP was asking? Do you guys expect Uthoff to play to his potential out of the gates? Of course not, he hasn't played competitve basketball in over 2 years. That's rust! It doesn't mean he isn't better now than he was in HS but he isn't going to be as good in the non conference as he will be down the road.

Just go look at most transfers around the country who have to sit out a year. It takes them a while to get going.

Go question OP. Fail by a lot of others.
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That's not rust IMO. We'll agree to disagree.
 


I really think Uthoff will be a valuable member to the team this year. He is versatile and has gained mucho experience practicing with Wisconsin and The Hawks.....

He will be not that much different from any other player playing his first official college game and will adjust quickly, after all he is Iowa's Mister Basketball.....

:rolleyes:
 


wundergrape said:
Is this a serious question? If you were a high school newspaper reporter, and had to take 2 years off from reporting actual events, would it be preposterous to think that you'd struggle to be Frank Deford from jump street? Also, how do you know he's far better than he was at Wash? Because he was mediocre at PTL? Because he was invisible in Estonia?

I think it's a valid question, and it has to do with his ability to establish a role on our team. As we all know, he has a bit of a clone in Aaron White, so creating a niche on floor (especially defensively) will be his challenge. Hopefully, we'll see the full arsenal by the middle of the Big Ten slate.
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Using his abilities to help this team win is key. I have to believe the returning experience, talent & depth on this year's team, combined with Fran's ability to instill confidence in HIS first year players will nearly guarantee Uthoff's early success.
 


theboat said:
Do people think he has been playing video games and eating chips for two years?
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He probably has been, it is kind of today's youth's thing.

Granted he has been able to work on his game for two years and develop without playing meaningful time. I will say that the practice time he got was meaningful to his teammates, great reviews of him and Uthoff was able to play his butt off and not have to worry about injuries because he couldn't play.

Agree with who said the European trip was huge because he hasn't played other competition. That said, I think Uthoff will be okay and a major contributor this season. Iowa being able to go as deep as they will be able too means guys can come in and play with reckless abandon, but not out of control. Each player can go all out on every possession without having to worry about getting too tired.
 


Ever see a player improve over the summer? You know, like Gatens and May between their junior and senior year? Like Mel between his sophomore and junior year? Like Tate? Have you watched Clemmons lately? Have you seen Gabe's game?

But, they weren't playing competitive ball in the summer, that can't happen!

Uthoff is exactly the guy this team needs. They need someone who will let the game come to him and help keep spacing by hitting the midrange shot.
 


CAARHawk said:
Ever see a player improve over the summer? You know, like Gatens and May between their junior and senior year? Like Mel between his sophomore and junior year? Like Tate? Have you watched Clemmons lately? Have you seen Gabe's game?

But, they weren't playing competitive ball in the summer, that can't happen!

Uthoff is exactly the guy this team needs. They need someone who will let the game come to him and help keep spacing by hitting the midrange shot.
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Don't say midrange jumpshot, people get very offended by that on here. It is a horrible shot, just wait people will tell you.

I love the midrange game, it allows a player to get into a shooting rhythm before stepping back behind the arc.
 


wundergrape said:
Is this a serious question? If you were a high school newspaper reporter, and had to take 2 years off from reporting actual events, would it be preposterous to think that you'd struggle to be Frank Deford from jump street? Also, how do you know he's far better than he was at Wash? Because he was mediocre at PTL? Because he was invisible in Estonia?

I think it's a valid question, and it has to do with his ability to establish a role on our team. As we all know, he has a bit of a clone in Aaron White, so creating a niche on floor (especially defensively) will be his challenge. Hopefully, we'll see the full arsenal by the middle of the Big Ten slate.
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He went to Jeff not wash..
 




Game rust sure , he will have to adjust almost like a true freshman, but without a doubt he is in better shape to do that now then out of high school. Guessing he will draw good minutes is first few games to feel more comfortable
 


Little oil should do the trick.

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"Shake the rust off" is a phrase coined by sportscasters and writers. It is meaningless. I expect he will take the floor as silky smooth as this guy........

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Thats what makes Uthoff a dangerous player. He might lull you into thinking that he has so much rust to shake. I like to think he's almost like a joker.He'll do great!.
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JonDMiller said:
What rust? He's never played in a college game and is better today, far better, than when he played HS ball
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The rust of no meaningful games for 2 years...

I saw it with Royce White with my own eyes. There's no previous D1 games to compare it to but the rust will be there.
 


I can't believe I've read some of the things I've read on here. All college athletes should be better players after a few seasons on campus then they were in highschool regardless of whether or not they've played any meaningful minutes. To think players are better players in HS then they are in college is foolish.

The question is not whether he's improved his game since highschool, but has his game improved enough in comparison to college level, for him to make an impact. Every player will be better in terms of fundamentals at a higher level of play then they previously were. The question is have their skills continued to improve at a level to give them an edge or competitive advantage over players at that same level. Players skills don't regress from HS level to the college level. The competion, and everyone else they're playing against gets better.
 


PackHawk said:
This thread is full of lolz. If you think HS Uthoff is even close to 2 years under amazing D1 coaches Uthoff then you need to go home, because you're drunk. So drunk.
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Nobody is claiming that he isn't better than he was in high school. The argument was based on whether or not we have enough information to make that assessment. And, also whether you should mock someone who makes every bit as reasonable an assessment based on similarly scant information.

I swear, people's inability to differentiate rhetoric (aka; smack talk whose only purpose is to prove a point) from actual opinion is mind-boggling. Kicker22, I'm looking at you, too.

Let me summarize for the slow: Uthoff is probably better than he was in high school and John shouldn't be judged for thinking that even though he has very little evidence to support it. So, I asked John a series of rhetorical questions in the hopes that he would be able to see that both he and Indianahawk were engaging in the same type of speculation. For the record, I think both are true: Uthoff is almost definitely better than he was in high school AND he will probably have some rust to shake off when the season starts. What I took issue with was the fact that one of these guys jumped down the other's throat and then turned around and engaged in the same type of speculation

Also, Temple rulz.
 
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Helmetsr22 said:
I can't believe I've read some of the things I've read on here. All college athletes should be better players after a few seasons on campus then they were in highschool regardless of whether or not they've played any meaningful minutes. To think players are better players in HS then they are in college is foolish.

The question is not whether he's improved his game since highschool, but has his game improved enough in comparison to college level, for him to make an impact. Every player will be better in terms of fundamentals at a higher level of play then they previously were. The question is have their skills continued to improve at a level to give them an edge or competitive advantage over players at that same level. Players skills don't regress from HS level to the college level. The competion, and everyone else they're playing against gets better.
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