Oversigning at Indiana

theboat

theboat

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So, Mike and Mike are railing on Indiana for oversigning in b-ball by one player this year. I agree that schools and teams should not be allowed to oversign and then drop a lesser player if they need the space, but I find it laughable that the most popular radio show on ESPN is just now realizing this goes on in college sports because of B1G basketball, even though it happens by the dozens on a yearly basis in the SEC in football and has for years.
 


theboat said:
So, Mike and Mike are railing on Indiana for oversigning in b-ball by one player this year. I agree that schools and teams should not be allowed to oversign and then drop a lesser player if they need the space, but I find it laughable that the most popular radio show on ESPN is just now realizing this goes on in college sports because of B1G basketball, even though it happens by the dozens on a yearly basis in the SEC in football and has for years.
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gotta have something to talk about this time of year. but yes, very interesting how they overlook football oversigning at ESPN.
 








I just don't understand why kids allow themselves to be used like this? Are they so blinded by their own overinflated views of their ability that they don't see how they are being used?
 


I'm assuming it's not illegal to do this, so, shouldn't Iowa being doing this as well? It's not a simple answer, because it doesn't "feel" right, but on the other hand, if it improves your team, why isn't it being done? Would the UI being at risk of being in breach of a contract with a kid if they cut his scholarship simply to make room for another player? An easy answer is to make it an NCAA violation to oversign.
 


homes said:
I'm assuming it's not illegal to do this, so, shouldn't Iowa being doing this as well? It's not a simple answer, because it doesn't "feel" right, but on the other hand, if it improves your team, why isn't it being done? Would the UI being at risk of being in breach of a contract with a kid if they cut his scholarship simply to make room for another player? An easy answer is to make it an NCAA violation to oversign.
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Didn't they used to have rules on the maximum amount of scholarships you could give in a season? Seems like you used to only be able to sign 5 in any 1 season and/or 13 in a 3 year period.
 


homes said:
I'm assuming it's not illegal to do this, so, shouldn't Iowa being doing this as well? It's not a simple answer, because it doesn't "feel" right, but on the other hand, if it improves your team, why isn't it being done? Would the UI being at risk of being in breach of a contract with a kid if they cut his scholarship simply to make room for another player? An easy answer is to make it an NCAA violation to oversign.
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Schollies are not four year contracts. They are one year contracts that must be renewed each year.
 


DuffMan said:
Schollies are not four year contracts. They are one year contracts that must be renewed each year.
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Except at most B1G schools, which offer 4 year schollies.

This would answer homes' question about Iowa doing it.

Iowa awards 4 year scholarships so they wouldnt have the option to "Crean" or "Groce" a current player.

Edit- As of February of 2012 the 4 year schollies only pertained to football schollies. I cant find anything saying that this practice has been expanded to basketball or any other sport yet.
 
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Section136 said:
Except at most B1G schools, which offer 4 year schollies.

This would answer homes' question about Iowa doing it.

Iowa awards 4 year scholarships so they wouldnt have the option to "Crean" or "Groce" a current player.
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That sounds gross.
 


Section136 said:
Except at most B1G schools, which offer 4 year schollies.

This would answer homes' question about Iowa doing it.

Iowa awards 4 year scholarships so they wouldnt have the option to "Crean" or "Groce" a current player.
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So Iowa offers 4 year scholarships, and other schools do not?

Glad to hear it's a level playing field.
 


Section136 said:
Except at most B1G schools, which offer 4 year schollies.

This would answer homes' question about Iowa doing it.

Iowa awards 4 year scholarships so they wouldnt have the option to "Crean" or "Groce" a current player.
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I was thinking this was a Big10 requirement didn't realize it was school by school option in the conference.
 


1hawkeye1 said:
I just don't understand why kids allow themselves to be used like this? Are they so blinded by their own overinflated views of their ability that they don't see how they are being used?
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That is exactly why it happens. These kids have been told their entire lives that there is no one better than they are.
 


Section136 said:
Except at most B1G schools, which offer 4 year schollies.

This would answer homes' question about Iowa doing it.

Iowa awards 4 year scholarships so they wouldnt have the option to "Crean" or "Groce" a current player.
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What are you talking about? All NCAA athletic scholarships are year to year.
 


sioux34 said:
What are you talking about? All NCAA athletic scholarships are year to year.
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This is an article detailing the four year scholarships for football, but I do believe Iowa does this in basketball as well.

Some in Big Ten offering 4-year scholarships - ESPN

As for the person who asked a question regarding Kentucky's use of scholarships, this article should clear things up. Long story short, this year they had several walk-ons who were awarded scholarships because they did not fill all 13. They were aware before the season started that if Kentucky could fill their spot with another scholarship player they would do so. They will go back to walk-on status next season.

Counting Calipari's scholarships
 


sioux34 said:
What are you talking about? All NCAA athletic scholarships are year to year.
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They are?

Although it appears, according to the articles which are dated way back in February of 2012, it is football only. Not sure if the B1G has expanded it to basketball or any other sport.



B1G schools offering 4-year scholarships - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

Big Ten offering recruits security of four-year guaranteed scholarship | cleveland.com

Big Ten going to multi-year scholarship model | CollegeFootballTalk
 






I think Crean and Pitino jr. are bringing a new ethos to Big Ten bb.
Pitino had an assistant call up Alex Foster,a recruit who signed a LOI with Minny in November and told him that Pitino and Minny were ''going in a different direction''....so Foster was told to move on.

Basically, for Pitino,even signed LOI's are disposiable,and not binding for the school,because it was signed before Pitino arrived in Minny.

If coaches and schools continue to push the envelope,they are going to kill their golden goose...ie. free labor to bring in millions for coach and school. I could see this whole thing coming tumbling down between the OBannon suit,and future suits from players who are treated poorly by scumbag coaches like Pitino.
 


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