eveningnewsteam
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Go ahead and start adding Duke. Indiana is better than Duke and Iowa had a 3 to tie with less than a minute to go. Bring on the heavyweights, not every night, but a few wouldnt hurt.
Will Iowa make the Dance? Prediction thread/poll
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Go ahead and start adding Duke. Indiana is better than Duke and Iowa had a 3 to tie with less than a minute to go. Bring on the heavyweights, not every night, but a few wouldnt hurt.
franstheman
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I guess I don't see this. What is impressive about Ohio State's resume? They have only 2 top 75 wins.....
Sirhouseman
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I said in. If Iowa doesn't poop the bed, they're going to get in. I see finishing 10-8 and getting one in the B1G tourney as enough.
If you are saying they don't have to do one or the other, true. If you are saying they could do neither, then NO. Because if they don't beat Iowa and they finish lower than Iowa then they at best went 3-2 (because a 2-3 Illini team doesn't get in) and Iowa went 4-1, with Iowa winning the late head to head game and Iowa being higher ranked in the conference and one of only six teams in the conference with a winning record in conference.
Plus the RPI issue will not be as big, because the late 4-1 record will get Iowa close enough to the necessary RPI number.
The issue is if they end with the same record.
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ILHawk
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The committee won't care about how they finish in relationship to them. Iowa is the worst team that Illinois doesn't play twice. Iowa plays all the bottom feeders 2x. Big difference. SoS is key, not how they finish in standings.
sportstalent
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I get what you are saying, but Illinois split with NW as well.
ameshawkeye
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Nearly all of this is irrelevant. The committee doesn't pay much attention to conference standings. Not to mention this isn't an issue of Iowa vs. Illinois to get into the tournament, you have to include all of the other bubble teams. Conference record and head to head won't come into play.
Right now, Illinois is squarely in the tournament. They have a great resume compared to Iowa and it isn't close.
Illinois is pretty much in already, where the finish in relation to Iowa has no bearing on Iowa's tournament chances.
PalmettoHawkFan
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feeling no
12-13 iowa looks like 08-09 penn state
10-8 with a osu, michigan, msu only once doesn't look that good
would need 2 btt wins perhaps
illinois at 9-9 and in and iowa at 10-8 and out still looks pretty ****** though
12-13 iowa looks like 08-09 penn state
10-8 with a osu, michigan, msu only once doesn't look that good
would need 2 btt wins perhaps
illinois at 9-9 and in and iowa at 10-8 and out still looks pretty ****** though
1977Hawkeye
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I voted no. Not because I think it's impossible, but just because I have a sinking feeling that Iowa is going to drop one that they can't afford to down the stretch - like @Nebraska, or the Illinois game maybe. And I'll go out on a limb and say that I don't think they will win at Indiana.
That said, I'm not one of those who is subscribing to the belief that Iowa needs to win its next 7 games in a row to get in the tournament, which would include beating Indiana AND winning 2 in the BTT.
My personal belief is that getting 4 of the next 5 (assuming a loss to Indiana), and not laying an egg in the first round of the BTT will LIKELY (not guaranteed, though) get the Hawks into the tournament. Better go ahead and win that 2nd round BTT game just to be sure, though.
The only real thing going against Iowa is its RPI, which first of all, is not the ONLY criteria the committee uses. Second of all, if Iowa continues to win, its RPI will improve. Several teams with RPI's in the 60's have been invited in recent years.. Iowa could be another such team.
That said, I'm not one of those who is subscribing to the belief that Iowa needs to win its next 7 games in a row to get in the tournament, which would include beating Indiana AND winning 2 in the BTT.
My personal belief is that getting 4 of the next 5 (assuming a loss to Indiana), and not laying an egg in the first round of the BTT will LIKELY (not guaranteed, though) get the Hawks into the tournament. Better go ahead and win that 2nd round BTT game just to be sure, though.
The only real thing going against Iowa is its RPI, which first of all, is not the ONLY criteria the committee uses. Second of all, if Iowa continues to win, its RPI will improve. Several teams with RPI's in the 60's have been invited in recent years.. Iowa could be another such team.
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ILHawk
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Yes, very true, but Iowa can't come close to matching them.
This game has the potential to be one of the most interesting matchups in a long time with Iowa. And everyone might leave the game with the same puzzling feeling over both teams when it's over.
It will probably be 8 to 7 with 7 minutes left in the first half and end up with one of them scoring 70. Look for either Woody, Bertrand, Oleseani, Basabe or Griffey to have a break out game. Something not expected.
sportstalent
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I am far from worried about the matchups in that game. If Iowa plays with high defensive intensity and continues to defend the 3-ball the way they have all season, I like Iowa in a not a close as you think game.
If the game was at Illinois, I would be concerned.
My comment was about people have Illinois as a lock and I understand it, but if they continue to be a rolly coaster and Iowa beats them and also swept a common opponent while finishing ahead of Illinois in the Big Ten, then the head to head can't be ignored.
I am still struggling with the fact that Illinois actually beat Butler and Gonzaga earlier this year, but they were playing great ball at that time. Better scouting in conference will expose flaws, only the best teams can overcome them.
jacknicholson
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Didn't Iowa have the number one SOS earlier in the conference......
jacknicholson
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I have been worried about playing at Nebraska for some time.....
Seth53
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#1--Better overall record than Iowa
#2--Better league record than Iowa
#3--Iowa lost to OSU
hawkforlife9
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After this weekend, Lunardi will have us part of the field of 64. We're in the top of the BIG. Nuff said.
LawVHawk
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Wish it was that easy but I don't think it is. Iowa will need to win at least twice in the BTT to go dancing. Beating NU certainly doable; Michigan, MSU or tOSU is a bigger order to fill. Not seeing it. Would love to eat crow on that.
MissouriHerk
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I see us beating NWU and then going into Game 2 totally fired up, as in, rabid with motivation. With conference tournaments, the games are more often decided by answering the question of who wants to be there more or who needs the win more. That's obviously a factor in the reg season, but even bigger in conference tourneys.
Schools that are a lock to make the tourney with a good seed are prime for being upset, whereby they simply get more rest for the real dance.
I have us winning Game 2 no matter who it is we play, and making the dance. In fact, I believe we have as good of a chance as anybody of winning the B1G Tourney.
