Herby can I join the Gabe Olesani fan club?
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Tmoney12
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I'm guessing you know about being a dick cop
never did be a dick about it but I know a few who were and are now. if you go thru Hudson mind the speed limit as they will write anybody a speeding ticket 1 mile and up over the speed limit and spend more time just outside the Waterloo city limits than they do inside the Hudson city limits.
me I just told the kids to leave the property, and let it go at that.
but when you think about the city just made a quick buck to the toon of 250 dollar fine per kid.
11 X 250 = 2750, can't pass that up
me I just told the kids to leave the property, and let it go at that.
but when you think about the city just made a quick buck to the toon of 250 dollar fine per kid.
11 X 250 = 2750, can't pass that up
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Tmoney12
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Link?
call the court house and find out what the fine is for criminal tresspass. no link needed.
or maybe you can get the Iowa Criminal Code, you can get all the details from that.
mine is outdated by 20 years. me I just call a friend of min e who is the local county Sherriff or another friend who retired as a district judge not to longt ago, unless you want to call them liars.
or maybe you can get the Iowa Criminal Code, you can get all the details from that.
mine is outdated by 20 years. me I just call a friend of min e who is the local county Sherriff or another friend who retired as a district judge not to longt ago, unless you want to call them liars.
BigD
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I thought White's one handed grab and slam would qualify as criminal trespass......lol. That was an awesome dunk. Aaron knew it too as he just squatted on the floor to give it an exclaimation point. Once that kid gets going he is fun to watch. You can tell the kid is having the time of his life out there. I digress though, this is a thread about Gabe.
Benddontbreak
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Opened this thread expecting a discussion on Gabe Olaseni. Instead Herby is giving legal advice. Merry Christmas everybody!
ssckelley
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I would love to see proof where a Hudson cop wrote someone a ticket for being 1 mph over the speed limit.
tm3308
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That's not "wrong place, wrong time". That saying is more for pure chance, like being in the shower when the dorm fire alarms go off, and getting reprimanded for not clearing out in time.
Being someplace where you technically aren't supposed to be, at a time you're not supposed to be there, is quite a bit different.
Regardless, Young wasn't on school property after hours, so this is all theoretical and irrelevant, anyway.
just giving examples of how trivial the charge is and how it can and is used.
but getting back to Gabe, talk is he is working out at both Center and PF now, with Basabe being slowed by a bad ankle, Gabe becomes more valuable going into the BT season.
the next Twin Towers is here in Woodbury and Olaseni
but getting back to Gabe, talk is he is working out at both Center and PF now, with Basabe being slowed by a bad ankle, Gabe becomes more valuable going into the BT season.
the next Twin Towers is here in Woodbury and Olaseni
You know Herby just can't take a joke and have fun with it. He has to justify it to everyone that criminal trespassing isn't murder, even though everyone was just messing around.
Holy crap if gabe moves to playing pf white is going to get passed over and end up on the bench hoping to get 10 to 15 min of back up duty.
Wait white is the 2nd leading scorer and obviously a 4 to anyone who watched the games to see how overmatched he was at the 3 and how much of a matchup problem he is as a 4. So I'm guessing gabe will get 10 min max at the pf and that is only if basabe can't play...it is called a back up plan. Plus there is still mccabe.
Gabe has developed well and faster than most predicted. But if you want to put a lot on him to expect him to do a lot for iowa then iowa will struggle because he will essentially be like a raw freshman. He will be very up and down in the b1g. Same can be said about clemmons, gesell, and woodbury. White and marble need to step up even more so the freshmen aren't needed to do too much. Basically the season rests on marble and white's shoulders and to be honest...I like our odds relying on those two.
but you really are totally clueless. white is not going to play 40 minute a game
w3ho knows you might see these 5 on the floor at the same time
PG Gesell
SG Marble
SF White
PF Olaseni
C Woodbury
not to many teams in the BT can match that lineup.
rather than worry about how Iowa is going to match up with other teams. its time for other teams to worry about how they are going to matchup with Iowa
w3ho knows you might see these 5 on the floor at the same time
PG Gesell
SG Marble
SF White
PF Olaseni
C Woodbury
not to many teams in the BT can match that lineup.
rather than worry about how Iowa is going to match up with other teams. its time for other teams to worry about how they are going to matchup with Iowa
deanvogs
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That lineup would be terrible. We would have very little ball movement, and only 2 players who could hit outside of 10 ft. White is great, but has struggled mightily from the 3 pt. line. You can't put 3 players in the low post and think you are going to get a lot of open looks.
Basketball isn't dominated by big men anymore Herby. Open your eyes, it is a guards game today. If you have a good post player, and another face up type who can handle things down low also that is all you need. Iowa has that with Woody/Olesani as the true post, and White as the face up 4, who can also be effective in the post. Then you need good guards who can shot, and get to the rim. Iowa also has those in Clemmons, Gesell, and Marble. White at the 4 is a matchup problem, he is not a matchup problem at the 3.
I'm not sure why you keep dreaming of a tall, slow team on the court that has no chance in shutting down the other teams perimeter game, and has no players to penetrate or score from the outside. I like have a team on the floor that can penetrate, distribute, and defend the perimeter. We have that with Clemmons, Gesell, Marble, White, and Woody on the floor.
You are clueless about it cause the reason white plays the 4 again is because the offense looked terrible with him at the 3 and he struggled staying in front of threes on the defensive end of the court.
Rewatch the games that white played the 3 and you will see he was a liability there. The reason I worry about that is because it was a glaring deficiency that only people that are truly clueless about basketball wouldn't see. Teams have to worry about how they match up with others because if you can't guard the other team your offensive advantage is null and void. And I believe marble and fran have both said that the offense works better with 3 ballhandlers on the court. White is above average as a ballhandler for a 4 but he is below average for a 3. And he isn't an outside shooting threat. Also having gesell play major minutes at the pg hurts defense as he is much better at guarding the 2.
I know white won't play 40 min. He averages 26 or 27 min. That leaves 13 or 14 min at the 4 spot. But there are 3 guys fighting for those minutes (mccabe, basabe, and olaseni). Please learn about basketball. Then people can have conversations with you otherwise you just sound ignorant.
you forget the 20 minute at the 5 spot that is left from splitting time with Woodbury, this is not a mtter of players getting 20-25 minutes at a position its all about creating mismatches at certain times in the games. find a book on basketball stratigies, who knows you might learn something about BB
deanvogs
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Please explain to me the mismatches of having Olesani, Woody, and White on the floor all at once are? Please tell me how Iowa defends when the opponent spreads the floor with 3 guards and a shooting 4 man? That is a tailor made lineup that teams like Indiana and Michigan would simply destroy with quickness and athleticism.
On the other hand a good mismatch is to put White at the 4 spot. This makes the opposing teams 4 defend the perimeter, and opens up lanes in the middle for Woody to work the post. It creates space on the floor for your guards to drive and dish for 3's or look to Woody in the post. Just see how much more effective our lineup has been with this setup with Clemmons, Gesell, Marble, White, and Woody. The spacing is much better, the outside looks are there (just need to hit them) and Woody has room to work in the post.
You don't create mismatches by making yourself tall and slow, this isn't the 70's Herby.
GhostofBTT
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Wow, I haven't seen changing the goalposts like that since Iowa went up to Minnesota in 2002. Starts out arguing why Oleasani should play the 4 and White should play the 3, finishes arguing that Olesani needs minutes as the back-up center.
L O freaking L!
didn't realize Gabe was unathletic and slow, nor did I realize Woodbury wa slow and unathletic.
7'1 Woodbury vs 7'0 Zeller
6'10 Gabe vs 6'9 Watford
6'8 White vs 6'7 Sheehey
6'7 Marble vs 6'5 Oladipo
6'1 Clemmons/ 6'1 Gesell vs 6'0 Hull/Ferrell
looks pretty close matchup to me.
I don't see a 3 guard lineup that will run circles around Iowa
and if teams want to go small
we have Clemons PG
Gesell SG
Marble WG
White PF
Olaseni C
with McCabe, Oglesby, Ingram, May, Basabe and Woodbury, thats 9 players that all have starting experience.
the only exceptions are Ingram and Olaseni
sorry but starting experience trumps backup players anytime.
this is a McCaffery coached team that keeps players, and not a Lick team that replaced 1-2 starters every year
7'1 Woodbury vs 7'0 Zeller
6'10 Gabe vs 6'9 Watford
6'8 White vs 6'7 Sheehey
6'7 Marble vs 6'5 Oladipo
6'1 Clemmons/ 6'1 Gesell vs 6'0 Hull/Ferrell
looks pretty close matchup to me.
I don't see a 3 guard lineup that will run circles around Iowa
and if teams want to go small
we have Clemons PG
Gesell SG
Marble WG
White PF
Olaseni C
with McCabe, Oglesby, Ingram, May, Basabe and Woodbury, thats 9 players that all have starting experience.
the only exceptions are Ingram and Olaseni
sorry but starting experience trumps backup players anytime.
this is a McCaffery coached team that keeps players, and not a Lick team that replaced 1-2 starters every year
I would say that Gabe is more athletic Woody but just because you are athletic doesn't mean you are top notch player. See Eric May for example he is extremely athletic but beyond that he isn't that great of player. Gabe has excellement athleticism but he is still really new to basketball he only played two years of BB before coming to Iowa. Woody is an excellent basketball player but he lacks that true althetic flying around slamming dunk ability that Gabe has.
Everyone is happy for you that you can look at those players and feel confident that the matches look good. But to other people feel they don't match up as well when you compare experience and skill, again you can disagree all you want it doesn't matter you won't change anyone's mind listing their previous stats (against different teams might I add), their measureables and past awards as freshman.
