WR's, Why go to Iowa?

Will Iowa be able to recruit great receivers?

  • Yes, a great player can be just as good at Iowa. Winning helps, too.

  • No, converted QB's already know the routes and 2 stars work harder.


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Mademyaccount4u

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With the recent, and overwhelming topic of Oliver Martin the topic is "why would a receiver come to Iowa?"

To break this down I look at the major reason to attend a college on an academic scholarship:

Emotion/legacy - I've been a fan my whole life and/or my parents went there. I would also throw in charismatic coach.

Education - The school has great academics or specializes in the students desired academics. (Ivy leagues etc.)

Prestige - The school is known for, as a whole, being good at a specific sport. (Michigan, Nebraska)

Winning - The school has a coach, system, or schedule conducive to winning even without history. (Baylor)

Playing time/position - a reason many transfer and the reason many athletes are recruited successfully as a QB.

Preparation for the next level - Going to this school with help you get to the NFL.

Facilities/ - Most people like nice, new things.

Of these things I see Prestige and Winning being close to each other at the top followed by legacy and playing time, and since we don't see all the best players with offers from Stanford/NW/Harvard/Penn attending at these schools, nor a line of 4/5 star linemen beating down the doors at Iowa I put these categories last. Obviously, there is much more than just these things involved including more than one of these reason making the decision, but to break it down, for me at least, I believe one thing can be the strongest pull (Lazard and the legacy versus nearly every other reason).

So, why NOT come to Iowa as a receiver?

Iowa has a good education, but they are not elite, at least not enough to get you to play football, for most people. Iowa doesn't have a history of preparing WR's for the league, though I suppose you could point to the WR coach and how many players he put into the league at Texas and that Iowa runs a pro-style offense. Iowa is not a prestigious school when it comes to football, they just aren't a blue blood (at least yet) nor are they getting 4/5 star players based on the 90's, looking at you Nebraska and Michigan.

So, why come to Iowa as a receiver?

Winning, if you'd like to be on a top 10 team, statistically, over the past 18 years (Ferentz's tenure) Iowa has ended the year as at top 10 team 5 times, yes there are schools with better winning %, but if you want to be on a winning team, especially with the recent recruiting classes, Iowa is a safe bet. A legacy doesn't need much explanation, but the current coaching staff is open and honest. The facilities are great at Iowa, 4 years ago this would have been a detriment. Iowa will build your body into an NFL body, their S&C is second to none. Iowa needs more good receivers, there isn't stellar talent on the depth chart, giving talented players opportunity. Finally, if you're good enough, you'll make it to the next level, ask Matt Cassel.
 
I know it's been awhile since Kasper played for Iowa but he is who this Martin kid sorta reminds me of. And if your a good good WR, with a good qb and Oline. You can have productive seasons at Iowa. Now Iowa has rarely had the continuity of a good qb having multiple years with a good WR. What Stanzi, McNutt and DJK were able to do is what Iowa just hasn't been able to do. I was hoping that Vanenberg and Keenan Davis could have a special relationship but it never really materialized.

As I look to this year I hope CJ can build a quick bond with Scheel and Smith as Vandebergs style is somewhat limited. So as I look ahead I'm not sold on Weigers or Cook. I have next to nothing to base it on other then the little bit we've seen of them in spring ball. I am optimistic that Stanley seems to be a special talent. I look forward to him getting in there and showing what he can do down the road... But having qbs work with their qbs multiple seasons with the same coaches is what I think is the perfect formula for Iowa to develop game breaking WRs. And I certainly think it can happen
 
I think the whole Iowa doesn't attract good receivers because of (blank) is a bit overblown. Iowa hasn't had many professional caliber receivers, but they've had quality college players at the position. Besides, LSU plays about as vanilla of an offense as possible and they have and continue to bring in highly talented wide receivers.
Smith was a solid player for the past couple of years. Before that there were McNutt and DJK who were both high caliber college players. Before that there were Dominique Douglass and James Cleveland were both talented. Although they didn't finish as Hawkeyes, Iowa was able to at least get both into the program. Before that there was Soloman and Hinkel had solid college careers and Mo Brown along with CJ Jones were solid players as well.
 
With the recent, and overwhelming topic of Oliver Martin the topic is "why would a receiver come to Iowa?"

To break this down I look at the major reason to attend a college on an academic scholarship:

Emotion/legacy - I've been a fan my whole life and/or my parents went there. I would also throw in charismatic coach.

Education - The school has great academics or specializes in the students desired academics. (Ivy leagues etc.)

Prestige - The school is known for, as a whole, being good at a specific sport. (Michigan, Nebraska)

Winning - The school has a coach, system, or schedule conducive to winning even without history. (Baylor)

Playing time/position - a reason many transfer and the reason many athletes are recruited successfully as a QB.

Preparation for the next level - Going to this school with help you get to the NFL.

Facilities/ - Most people like nice, new things.

Of these things I see Prestige and Winning being close to each other at the top followed by legacy and playing time, and since we don't see all the best players with offers from Stanford/NW/Harvard/Penn attending at these schools, nor a line of 4/5 star linemen beating down the doors at Iowa I put these categories last. Obviously, there is much more than just these things involved including more than one of these reason making the decision, but to break it down, for me at least, I believe one thing can be the strongest pull (Lazard and the legacy versus nearly every other reason).

So, why NOT come to Iowa as a receiver?

Iowa has a good education, but they are not elite, at least not enough to get you to play football, for most people. Iowa doesn't have a history of preparing WR's for the league, though I suppose you could point to the WR coach and how many players he put into the league at Texas and that Iowa runs a pro-style offense. Iowa is not a prestigious school when it comes to football, they just aren't a blue blood (at least yet) nor are they getting 4/5 star players based on the 90's, looking at you Nebraska and Michigan.

So, why come to Iowa as a receiver?

Winning, if you'd like to be on a top 10 team, statistically, over the past 18 years (Ferentz's tenure) Iowa has ended the year as at top 10 team 5 times, yes there are schools with better winning %, but if you want to be on a winning team, especially with the recent recruiting classes, Iowa is a safe bet. A legacy doesn't need much explanation, but the current coaching staff is open and honest. The facilities are great at Iowa, 4 years ago this would have been a detriment. Iowa will build your body into an NFL body, their S&C is second to none. Iowa needs more good receivers, there isn't stellar talent on the depth chart, giving talented players opportunity. Finally, if you're good enough, you'll make it to the next level, ask Matt Cassel.
With the recent, and overwhelming topic of Oliver Martin the topic is "why would a receiver come to Iowa?"

To break this down I look at the major reason to attend a college on an academic scholarship:

Emotion/legacy - I've been a fan my whole life and/or my parents went there. I would also throw in charismatic coach.

Education - The school has great academics or specializes in the students desired academics. (Ivy leagues etc.)

Prestige - The school is known for, as a whole, being good at a specific sport. (Michigan, Nebraska)

Winning - The school has a coach, system, or schedule conducive to winning even without history. (Baylor)

Playing time/position - a reason many transfer and the reason many athletes are recruited successfully as a QB.

Preparation for the next level - Going to this school with help you get to the NFL.

Facilities/ - Most people like nice, new things.

Of these things I see Prestige and Winning being close to each other at the top followed by legacy and playing time, and since we don't see all the best players with offers from Stanford/NW/Harvard/Penn attending at these schools, nor a line of 4/5 star linemen beating down the doors at Iowa I put these categories last. Obviously, there is much more than just these things involved including more than one of these reason making the decision, but to break it down, for me at least, I believe one thing can be the strongest pull (Lazard and the legacy versus nearly every other reason).

So, why NOT come to Iowa as a receiver?

Iowa has a good education, but they are not elite, at least not enough to get you to play football, for most people. Iowa doesn't have a history of preparing WR's for the league, though I suppose you could point to the WR coach and how many players he put into the league at Texas and that Iowa runs a pro-style offense. Iowa is not a prestigious school when it comes to football, they just aren't a blue blood (at least yet) nor are they getting 4/5 star players based on the 90's, looking at you Nebraska and Michigan.

So, why come to Iowa as a receiver?

Winning, if you'd like to be on a top 10 team, statistically, over the past 18 years (Ferentz's tenure) Iowa has ended the year as at top 10 team 5 times, yes there are schools with better winning %, but if you want to be on a winning team, especially with the recent recruiting classes, Iowa is a safe bet. A legacy doesn't need much explanation, but the current coaching staff is open and honest. The facilities are great at Iowa, 4 years ago this would have been a detriment. Iowa will build your body into an NFL body, their S&C is second to none. Iowa needs more good receivers, there isn't stellar talent on the depth chart, giving talented players opportunity. Finally, if you're good enough, you'll make it to the next level, ask Matt Cassel.
Wow, you have it all figured out.....I'm sure you'll be coming on as the new recruiting coordinator real soon.......get a life, Willie Wannabee............
 
Part of the reason for us not getting blue-chip receivers to come here is because Iowa is known for emphasizing its tight ends and getting them into the NFL but not receivers. If we can put a receiver into the NFL within the first few rounds, things might change in that regard pretty quickly.
 
Hopefully we can get Hippenhammer. This is shaping up as being a great WR class with Holmes, Smith already in the fold. Finish with Martin and Hippenhammer, and that would be awesome!

 
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Wow, you have it all figured out.....I'm sure you'll be coming on as the new recruiting coordinator real soon.......get a life, Willie Wannabee............

Thanks, for your well thought out and relevant response.

Hawkeye Nation is lucky to have you.
 
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