Will Vandenberg fill Stanzi's shoes?

[tm3308]

I'm sure people said that after Banks left too. How well did Iowa do in 2003 again? I can't remember...

I'm pretty sure that anyone who said that we wouldn't see a reproduction of Banks' performance from Nathan Chandler, they were right. The team was good, but to say there wasn't a significant drop-off under center is ludicrous.

 

[dyerhawk]

Yea I believe if James is the real deal we will suprise people. I wish Sash would have came back for his senior year. we could use more stability in the secondary but I think the D-Line will be fine. I expect probably alot of double teams on Mike Daniels which could open up a spot for a newcomer to step up. Binns should be improved and hope he can put more pressure on the outside and not just block an ocassional pass. But all in all I look forward to better season than expected and believe we have the best O-Line in the conference!

 

[trj]

I agree

JVB will be a good QB but I hope people's expectations get in line so if he doesnt perform at Ricky's level there wont be any meltdowns*

*wishful thinking, wont happen

You know it is coming if JVB struggles, has growing pains, people will be calling for Derby, Ruduck, Wienke ......Mcnutt in the Wildcat. I can almost guarantee it.

2011 I think he will be a "game manager".
2012 is the year where I think he will be really good, Stanzi's senior year level or maybe even better.

 

[I0WA]

Did Vandy have any stats against ISU & MSU? The only time I remember him taking the field was against E. Illinois and every time he'd go back to pass I just remember his scrambling for a few yards here and there. I wish now, especially with the 7-5 season last year, that we could have given him more experience. If I wasn't so un-sure about the defense this year, I honestly think 2011 could be a special season.

 

[busabus114]

You know it is coming if JVB struggles, has growing pains, people will be calling for Derby, Ruduck, Wienke ......Mcnutt in the Wildcat. I can almost guarantee it.

2011 I think he will be a "game manager".
2012 is the year where I think he will be really good, Stanzi's senior year level or maybe even better.

I agree. JVB will be a great QB but he's only played 2.75 games. I hope people understand that. I dont think he needs to be outstanding this year for Iowa to win. Rely on the O-line and the running game and make plays where needed. Good thing is I think JVB is smart enough to realize this.

 

[Hawkfromnorwalk]

I'm pretty sure that anyone who said that we wouldn't see a reproduction of Banks' performance from Nathan Chandler, they were right. The team was good, but to say there wasn't a significant drop-off under center is ludicrous.

A drop off under center is one thing, but in the end I'm looking at wins and losses. Even after the drop off between Banks and Chandler Iowa was still able to pull off one hell of a season in 2003. We don't need JVB to fill Stanzi's shoes, we need him to perform adequately. He's got the tools around him to do that.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

My thoughts are: Ricky Who?

I think JVB is the surprise player in the Big Ten. People need to stop talking about Minnesota, and NW for that matter. He was RS Freshman with NO experience. He was barely getting more reps than JW. If you think he has any skills at all, you have to assume in the last 18 months he has gotten a ton better. The coaches say he's very accurate. That's all I need to hear. He needs to be able to throw the outs (proven), be accurate to the TE (assumed from coaches comments), and we continue to move the chains and the opposing defensive gets to see a few more plays with Mr. Coker toting the rock each series. I think this team is going to be a clock killing, physical, drive sustaining machine.

We wear teams down, and create a ton of big plays as teams need to press the line of scrimmage to shut down the running and short passing game. McNutt has a huge year as well as Herman and CJ.

 

[MultipleDundieAwardWinner]

A drop off under center is one thing, but in the end I'm looking at wins and losses. Even after the drop off between Banks and Chandler Iowa was still able to pull off one hell of a season in 2003. We don't need JVB to fill Stanzi's shoes, we need him to perform adequately. He's got the tools around him to do that.

According to Wikipedia, you came off an 11 win BCS season in 2003, but this season you're coming off an 8 win, third tier bowl season in 2010.

 

[GrandpaHawk]

I hope he can ,time will tell.Things I would like to see.

1.Being able to bounce back after a bad play.

2.Don't have happy feet,stay in the pocket and make the throw.

3.Don't lock in on one receiver.

4. Break the huddle with plenty of time to get play off(NO DELAY OF GAME PENALTY'S).

5.If he has to run get down,don't need injury.

6.Manage the clock with less than 2 min. in half or game.

I think he's ready and will do a wonderful job.It's his time to run the Offense.

 

[Hawkfromnorwalk]

According to Wikipedia, you came off an 11 win BCS season in 2003, but this season you're coming off an 8 win, third tier bowl season in 2010.

Everybody knows that wikipedia can't be used as a source when presenting an argument. Your post gets an "F".

 

[shonblatt]

Vandenberg has more physical tools than Stanzi.

The question is whether or not James has the leadership skills and intangibles that Ricky possessed.

Based on the way he played in the Horseshoe, I think we'll probably be fine.

 

[olddude]

I hope he can ,time will tell.Things I would like to see.

1.Being able to bounce back after a bad play.

2.Don't have happy feet,stay in the pocket and make the throw.

3.Don't lock in on one receiver.

4. Break the huddle with plenty of time to get play off(NO DELAY OF GAME PENALTY'S).

5.If he has to run get down,don't need injury.

6.Manage the clock with less than 2 min. in half or game.

I think he's ready and will do a wonderful job.It's his time to run the Offense.

To be honest you have some very good points.
#1 I think after the first few games, that wont be a problem.
#2 I think he needs to remain somewhat mobile, but no happy feet, but he seems to have that he just got rattled to easy, I assume the last 18 months, a good O-line and again a game or two should help that.
#3 I liked what I saw from him when he played, but yes he could scan the field better and with a good o-line should have time to do so.
#4 He is smart, I dont think we have to much to worry about there.
#5 Lets hope so!!!!
#6 If all goes well, we shouldnt have to worry to much, but I think last years Wiskey game brought that "schooling" to the forefront and again he is smart.

 

[iahawk20]

I'm sure people said that after Banks left too. How well did Iowa do in 2003 again? I can't remember...

Are you claiming that Chandler performed at the same level as Banks? If you actually read I was specific in "QB play"....not overall team performance.

 

[Hawkfromnorwalk]

A drop off under center is one thing, but in the end I'm looking at wins and losses. Even after the drop off between Banks and Chandler Iowa was still able to pull off one hell of a season in 2003. We don't need JVB to fill Stanzi's shoes, we need him to perform adequately. He's got the tools around him to do that.

Are you claiming that Chandler performed at the same level as Banks? If you actually read I was specific in "QB play"....not overall team performance.

Here is my quote from later. I am assessing this as more of an overall situation, and not just as a Stanzi v JVB situation. I apologize for not clarifying.

 

[CAARHawk]

Vandenberg has more top end physical tools than Stanzi, but Ricky might have had a bigger repertoire of creative throws in his bag. James looks to have much stronger power throws, but we still have to wait and see about the touch throws.

I hated what they did with Ricky's long ball over his career. It was just way, way, way, too mechanical. I have a fear that they are developing James the same way.

 

[DP5555]

I think some fans are looking too far into the way Vandy underperformed in the NW and Minny games, but I also believe a lot of us praise his performance against OSU a little too much (I'm just as guilty as the next person is when it comes to that). There were a lot of things we saw from Vandy in the OSU game that were special. He certainly gave us plenty of reasons to be optimistic about what he can bring to the Hawks as their signal caller. He showed patience, a cannon for an arm, the ability to throw the ball into tight coverage, pretty good decision making, and most importantly the ability to forget his mistakes and keep his head in the game. With that said, he didn't play as well as a lot of people make it sound like he did in that game. He threw two int's and there certainly should have been a couple more if it wasn't for some lucky breaks. Moeaki bringing down that tipped pass to convert the first down was an extremely lucky break. If that ball gets picked off like it should have been then I think a lot of us would look at that performance a little differently.

I just think it's important to keep things in perspective with Vandy. He has a special arm, and it seems like he has a lot of other intangibles that could make him a great leader for our Hawkeyes. However, the above poster who said he has very little on the field experience for a Junior QB is correct. He hasn't really played that much so it's hard to know what to expect. The best news for Vandy is he has a veteran offensive line protecting him and a unique talent in Coker right behind him. Let's hope they all stay healthy! He doesn't have to do it all himself is the important thing.

 

[MultipleDundieAwardWinner]

Everybody knows that wikipedia can't be used as a source when presenting an argument. Your post gets an "F".

 

[hawktransplant]

I just hope they show a lot of pictures of his mom.

 

[bitmap]

- He threw two int's and there certainly should have been a couple more if it wasn't for some lucky breaks. Moeaki bringing down that tipped pass to convert the first down was an extremely lucky break. If that ball gets picked off like it should have been then I think a lot of us would look at that performance a little differently.

I've been thinking a lot about that. Good thing we have two players who seem to be able to handle themselves in traffic like Moeaki. Both CJF and Staggs use their bodies well. If these guys pan out, and then we combine their body control w/ JVB's high velocity release, the shorter throws towards the sidelines may be productive. From what I've seen, and that's not much, the closer the corners cover these two the better. What scares me is a corner playing off of them realizes they are outlets and breaks as JVB turns to dump the ball to them because of coverage down the field. As long as JVB is decisive and get's the ball to them in time we are OK. If he hesitates....

 

[HomerChampless]

Iowa will need to rely on the offense again this year.

If Vandy isn't close to Stanzi, Iowa's going to have a long season.