Will OSU be out for blood after 2017 game?

okeefe4prez said:
Tough call with JVB starting that game. Guys like KF and Tressel were throwbacks to a more civilized time in football, when teams didn't try to steal a score in the last 90 seconds of a half and coaches were content going to OT and letting it play out that way. Now everything is "press press press." That OSU-Iowa game in '09 was just a damned fine college football game irregardless of the outcome.
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Yeah well real throwback football coaches coached before there was overtime might have gone for the win because a tie 'was worse than kissing your sister' as some oldtime coach like Bo S. said.

I know Fry lost and won a few games late playing not to tie.
 
All "great female bass players of great alternative bands" team

Kim Deal-Pixies (co-captain)
Kim Gordon-Sonic Youth (co-captain)
Tina Weymouth-Talking Heads
Laura Ballance-Superchunk
D'Arcy Wretzky-Smashing Pumpkins
Kristin Pfaff (RIP)-Hole
 
uihawk82 said:
Yeah well real throwback football coaches coached before there was overtime might have gone for the win because a tie 'was worse than kissing your sister' as some oldtime coach like Bo S. said.

I know Fry lost and won a few games late playing not to tie.
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You just blew my mind with that hypothetical. What if ties were still around in 2009 and Iowa-OSU tied? Who would win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl?
 
guffus said:
You just blew my mind with that hypothetical. What if ties were still around in 2009 and Iowa-OSU tied? Who would win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl?
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Well by the old Big 10 rules whichever team between Iowa and OSU in 2009 was the last one to go to the Rose Bowl would have been the odd team out.

In the last 50+ years there have multiple examples of teams tying for the title and the higher ranked team not getting the Rose Bowl Bid. The mid-60's Spartan powerhouse teams had that issue as maybe Purdue went one year to the Rose by tying them for the title after MSU went the year before. And of course that was back in the time when only one Big team went to a bowl, the Rose, and Notre Dame never went to a bowl game. Crazy old shit
 
MoseSchrute said:
Melissa Auf der Maur should be on your list.
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Yes, of course. Smashing Pumpkins, Hole, Tinker and several others.

Kinda like Glenn Hughes or Paul Carrack or Cozy Powell who lent their services to numerous bands in need.

Or any member of Toto when they weren't in Toto.
 
guffus said:
You just blew my mind with that hypothetical. What if ties were still around in 2009 and Iowa-OSU tied? Who would win the Big Ten and go to the Rose Bowl?
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Actually the rule back then was a Big team could not participate two years in a row in the Rose Bowl. MSU won the league in '65 and '66 but only played in the Rose after the 66 season.
 
uihawk82 said:
Well by the old Big 10 rules whichever team between Iowa and OSU in 2009 was the last one to go to the Rose Bowl would have been the odd team out.

In the last 50+ years there have multiple examples of teams tying for the title and the higher ranked team not getting the Rose Bowl Bid. The mid-60's Spartan powerhouse teams had that issue as maybe Purdue went one year to the Rose by tying them for the title after MSU went the year before. And of course that was back in the time when only one Big team went to a bowl, the Rose, and Notre Dame never went to a bowl game. Crazy old shit
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Thats how Iowa went to the Rose Bowl in 1982. They tied with Ohio State in the 1981 regular season (in fact didn't play them), Ohio State may have been the higher ranked team, but they had gone more recently than Iowa. So Iowa got the bid.
 
uihawk82 said:
Well by the old Big 10 rules whichever team between Iowa and OSU in 2009 was the last one to go to the Rose Bowl would have been the odd team out.

In the last 50+ years there have multiple examples of teams tying for the title and the higher ranked team not getting the Rose Bowl Bid. The mid-60's Spartan powerhouse teams had that issue as maybe Purdue went one year to the Rose by tying them for the title after MSU went the year before. And of course that was back in the time when only one Big team went to a bowl, the Rose, and Notre Dame never went to a bowl game. Crazy old shit
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I guess my question could be open to interpretation since I basicly asked what if we had old rules in place where games could still end in a tie. But my goal was to use 2009 Big Ten tie-breaker rules if 2 teams tied for 1 st place, even if we are not using 2009 rules for overtime games.

So if Iowa and OSU had tied in 2009, they both would have finished with 6-1-1 conference records. With Iowa 10-1-1 overall and OSU 9-2-1 overall.

I am familiar with the old rules from the 50's where 1 team could not go to the Rose Bowl 2 years in a row. I also remember the 1981 season where the final tiebreaker was who went to the Rose Bowl last.

But I also remember in 2010, Wisconsin won a 3-way tiebreaker because it had the highest BCS ranking.

But I don't know what the rules were in 2009. Iowa would have had a better overall record because OSU had a non-conference loss. But I don't know if that was high on the tiebreaker priority list. If it came down to BCS ranking, I am guessing Iowa would have the higher BCS ranking based on that hypothetical tie taking place in OSU's home stadium. But I am just guessing.
 
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guffus said:
I guess my question could be open to interpretation since I basicly asked what if we had old rules in place where games could still end in a tie. But my goal was to use 2009 Big Ten tie-breaker rules if 2 teams tied for 1 st place, even if we are not using 2009 rules for overtime games.

So if Iowa and OSU had tied in 2009, they both would have finished with 6-1-1 conference records. With Iowa 10-1-1 overall and OSU 9-2-1 overall.

I am familiar with the old rules from the 50's where 1 team could not go to the Rose Bowl 2 years in a row. I also remember the 1981 season where the final tiebreaker was who went to the Rose Bowl last.

But I also remember in 2010, Wisconsin won a 3-way tiebreaker because it had the highest BCS ranking.

But I don't know what the rules were in 2009. Iowa would have had a better overall record because OSU had a non-conference loss. But I don't know if that was high on the tiebreaker priority list. If it came down to BCS ranking, I am guessing Iowa would have the higher BCS ranking based on that hypothetical tie taking place in OSU's home stadium. But I am just guessing.
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Two-way tie rule was
1) Head-to-head
2) Overall record
3) Last team to appear as BCS rep
4) and beyond) The usual convoluted crap that never got used and still never gets used
 
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