Why Not More Love For Marble?

wundergrape

wundergrape

Well-Known Member
I've never understood it. I started a thread on here last year where I compared his career trajectory to Ricki Stanzi, and I stand by that comparison...until this year. Dev has surpassed himself as a Junior, Ameristanzi didn't.

To my eyes, he's the greatest Hawkeye basketball player since Andre Woolridge, maybe Acie Earl. But now, after his signature game, a game where he put our team - no, our program and our reputation - on his back and single handedly dominated the #10 team in the nation and shut down its best player - all I read is about his supporting cast.

Our resurgence has been led by two people - Fran McCaffery and Roy Devyn Marble. There comes a time where respect is due, folks.

If Dev's rhythm of "lull and resurgence" from '12-'13 is any indication - and I think it is - prepare to pay the piper. Roy Devyn Marble is the greatest Hawkeye in a generation, and if this year is anything like the last; he is about to put all doubts away for good.
 
He has the skills and right mentality, just wish he was more greedy on taking more shots when he's hot (like tonight in 2nd half) and when he's cold, set others up.
 
If he can stay healthy and get hot in the post season (like last year), it should be a fun ride.
 
wundergrape said:
I've never understood it. I started a thread on here last year where I compared his career trajectory to Ricki Stanzi, and I stand by that comparison...until this year. Dev has surpassed himself as a Junior, Ameristanzi didn't.

To my eyes, he's the greatest Hawkeye basketball player since Andre Woolridge, maybe Acie Earl. But now, after his signature game, a game where he put our team - no, our program and our reputation - on his back and single handedly dominated the #10 team in the nation and shut down its best player - all I read is about his supporting cast.

Our resurgence has been led by two people - Fran McCaffery and Roy Devyn Marble. There comes a time where respect is due, folks.

If Dev's rhythm of "lull and resurgence" from '12-'13 is any indication - and I think it is - prepare to pay the piper. Roy Devyn Marble is the greatest Hawkeye in a generation, and if this year is anything like the last; he is about to put all doubts away for good.
Click to expand...




Stanzi had much better stats his senior year compared to his junior year. The defense was the main difference between those two years. I still have images of Clayborn with his hands on his hips huffing and puffing from 2010 in my head.
 
ajkhawkeye said:
Stanzi had much better stats his senior year compared to his junior year. The defense was the main difference between those two years. I still have images of Clayborn with his hands on his hips huffing and puffing from 2010 in my head.
Click to expand...

You're absolutely right. Don't know what I was thinking there...that was even part of my original math with Dev. Sheesh, you'd think three years wouldn't be too long for me to remember. Thanks, ajk.
 
I put Dev Marble at the top of my thread today about the game and box score. His shooting opened up everything for the hawks on offense.
 
wundergrape said:
You're absolutely right. Don't know what I was thinking there...that was even part of my original math with Dev. Sheesh, you'd think three years wouldn't be too long for me to remember. Thanks, ajk.
Click to expand...


Haha no worries. I agree with everything you said but that little snippet. Dev has legitimately got a shot, albeit outside, of conference POY. Not many Hawkeyes, especially recently can make that sort of claim.
 
ajkhawkeye said:
Haha no worries. I agree with everything you said but that little snippet. Dev has legitimately got a shot, albeit outside, of conference POY. Not many Hawkeyes, especially recently can make that sort of claim.
Click to expand...

My POY ballot right now would probably look like this:

1. Gary Harris
2a. Stauskas
2b. Appling
2c. Marble

You can take your pick of the three guys after Harris right now. He's playing better than anyone right now and has shown little or no signs of slowing down. Stauskas and Appling have both faltered a little lately, and I think it's going to stay that way for Stauskas. Teams have figured out how to slow him down now; someone else is going to have to step up and take pressure off of him on a consistent basis.
 
wundergrape said:
I've never understood it. I started a thread on here last year where I compared his career trajectory to Ricki Stanzi, and I stand by that comparison...until this year. Dev has surpassed himself as a Junior, Ameristanzi didn't.

To my eyes, he's the greatest Hawkeye basketball player since Andre Woolridge, maybe Acie Earl. But now, after his signature game, a game where he put our team - no, our program and our reputation - on his back and single handedly dominated the #10 team in the nation and shut down its best player - all I read is about his supporting cast.

Our resurgence has been led by two people - Fran McCaffery and Roy Devyn Marble. There comes a time where respect is due, folks.

If Dev's rhythm of "lull and resurgence" from '12-'13 is any indication - and I think it is - prepare to pay the piper. Roy Devyn Marble is the greatest Hawkeye in a generation, and if this year is anything like the last; he is about to put all doubts away for good.
Click to expand...

I love what Marble has done for the program. He has definitely been a key component of the resurgence of being relevant again on the national scence. I, and some others I would imagine, have an issue when he's making bad decisions and forcing the issue too much. Sometimes he just tries to do way too much. He had 10 turnovers over the last couple of games, but today was much improved. I like it when he lets the game come to him and hopefully he'll only keep getting a better feel for that.

Another issue, is that he's not a clutch player at the end of games. I can't verify the accuracy of this stat, but I remember somebody saying the other day that Iowa was 0 for its last 30 on game winning or trying shots at the end of regulation. Guess who has been our go-to guy at the end of games the last 2 seasons.

I don't bring these things up to take anything away from him, because he is a helluva basketball player and definitely has a future in basketball, whether he's able to make it into the NBA or by playing overseas, but I thought I would provide an explanation as to why he may not get as much love as some others.

I think you have to give Basabe some credit for reviving the program too, by the way. Just my 2 cents.
 
GoHawks24 said:
I love what Marble has done for the program. He has definitely been a key component of the resurgence of being relevant again on the national scence. I, and some others I would imagine, have an issue when he's making bad decisions and forcing the issue too much. Sometimes he just tries to do way too much. He had 10 turnovers over the last couple of games, but today was much improved. I like it when he lets the game come to him and hopefully he'll only keep getting a better feel for that.

Another issue, is that he's not a clutch player at the end of games. I can't verify the accuracy of this stat, but I remember somebody saying the other day that Iowa was 0 for its last 30 on game winning or trying shots at the end of regulation. Guess who has been our go-to guy at the end of games the last 2 seasons.

I don't bring these things up to take anything away from him, because he is a helluva basketball player and definitely has a future in basketball, whether he's able to make it into the NBA or by playing overseas, but I thought I would provide an explanation as to why he may not get as much love as some others.

I think you have to give Basabe some credit for reviving the program too, by the way. Just my 2 cents.
Click to expand...

First of all, that 0-31 streak goes back to 2009 (IIRC), when Cy Tate hit a game winner. So, I'd put a rough estimate at 13-15 shots for Marble in that situation. But part of his problem is that we've tended to not really set up a play. We just let him iso and see what he can get. Failing to get a good shot in that situation doesn't necessarily mean he's not clutch; that can be a product of just not being good enough to get separation against his defender.

Today at the end of the first half, I loved that we put the ball in Gesell's hands and actually ran a set that got Marble a good look, and he nailed it with ease. I hope we see much, much more of that in any future clutch situations.
 
I think Fran will show the team today's tape and have many positive teaching points.......great team effort today, but Dev was big time.......
 
tm3308 said:
First of all, that 0-31 streak goes back to 2009 (IIRC), when Cy Tate hit a game winner. So, I'd put a rough estimate at 13-15 shots for Marble in that situation. But part of his problem is that we've tended to not really set up a play. We just let him iso and see what he can get. Failing to get a good shot in that situation doesn't necessarily mean he's not clutch; that can be a product of just not being good enough to get separation against his defender.

Today at the end of the first half, I loved that we put the ball in Gesell's hands and actually ran a set that got Marble a good look, and he nailed it with ease. I hope we see much, much more of that in any future clutch situations.
Click to expand...

That's something that bothers me a little bit about Fran. I understand the desire to have it just play out while not allowing the other team to set up their defense, but Fran is pretty solid at writing up plays. You can see it on the inbound plays that he draws up. Especially if you have a timeout to use at the end of the half.

I did like what they did at the end of the half today though. That was very nice.
 
Scoring 6 three pointers will garner all the attention but time to give him a lil love for his D!! He went man to man with Stauskas and kept him very quiet!!!
 
tm3308 said:
First of all, that 0-31 streak goes back to 2009 (IIRC), when Cy Tate hit a game winner. So, I'd put a rough estimate at 13-15 shots for Marble in that situation. But part of his problem is that we've tended to not really set up a play. We just let him iso and see what he can get. Failing to get a good shot in that situation doesn't necessarily mean he's not clutch; that can be a product of just not being good enough to get separation against his defender.

Today at the end of the first half, I loved that we put the ball in Gesell's hands and actually ran a set that got Marble a good look, and he nailed it with ease. I hope we see much, much more of that in any future clutch situations.
Click to expand...


I believe he got a great shot, the shot he wanted, to finish off Michigan State in regulation when we played them. It just did not go down. Today I thought his defensive intensity level was clearly up, it helps the offensive side and everyone feeds off of him.

Mike Gesell was very aggressive today too and Woodbury very obviously was going out of his way to let Stauskas know he didn't care for him. They had multiple small shoving staredowns. I believe the shhhh finger was directed at him, probably because of the "and 1" garbage we got in Ann Arbor.

We were ready to play. Would love to know which coach had the game plan prep as we were all over Stauskas and the way he comes off screens. I don't care to see them again this season.
 
Last edited:
impantalones said:
I believe he got a great shot, the shot he wanted, to finish off Michigan State in regulation when we played them. It just did not go down. Today I thought his defensive intensity level was clearly up, it helps the offensive side and everyone feeds off of him.

Mike Gesell was very aggressive today too and Woodbury very obviously was going out of his way to let Stauskas know he didn't care for him. They had multiple small shoving staredowns. I believe the shhhh finger was directed at him, probably because of the "and 1" garbage we got in Ann Arbor.

We were ready to play. Would love to know which coach had the game plan prep as we were all over Stauskas and the way he comes off screens. I don't care to see them again this season.
Click to expand...

I fully agree with you on this. He got a great look (one that was, in reality, much better than it looked from my angle in Carver). But that's not often been the case when we go to that iso strategy. I definitely like running a set better, though. Teams assume that Marble will take the last shot (which is a fair assumption); by putting the ball in his hands right away, you basically remove all doubt of that. But by using Gesell to start the play, there are more possibilities open; we can obviously run a play designed for Marble to get a good shot (as we did today), but Gesell can also beat his man off the dribble or hit a pull-up jumper, or dish it off to someone other than Marble. It keeps the defense more honest in those critical situations, IMO.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
So.... first team all-conference? Yes. or No.
Click to expand...

That's tough. I think he deserves it but....

Craft
Harris/Appling
Stauskas

To be honest, I'm not sure how they select teams if it is by position or not but I feel at least these 3 spots will be taken with these 4 guys.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top