Why do the republicans/conservatives have this love for Putin and Russia???

[uihawk82]

The conservatives like Barry Goldwater and John McCain are rolling in their graves. Do these 40 million conservative Americans love Putin and Russia just because Trump loves him and the 40 million will do anything for Trump??? The Repubs used to hate Russia, their leaders, their ideology, etc and it served the US conservative cause to do that so they could make lots of money on defense spending, etc. Now they have flipped 180 degrees.

I am no warmonger but as I have always said when you have a rabid dog in the pack you have to either kill the rabid dog or chain him in a kennel away from all the good dogs. Putin is a rabid dog. I feel so sorry for all those people over there where it must be like living in the 17th century.

 

[Fryowa]

The conservatives like Barry Goldwater and John McCain are rolling in their graves. Do these 40 million conservative Americans love Putin and Russia just because Trump loves him and the 40 million will do anything for Trump??? The Repubs used to hate Russia, their leaders, their ideology, etc and it served the US conservative cause to do that so they could make lots of money on defense spending, etc. Now they have flipped 180 degrees.

I am no warmonger but as I have always said when you have a rabid dog in the pack you have to either kill the rabid dog or chain him in a kennel away from all the good dogs. Putin is a rabid dog. I feel so sorry for all those people over there where it must be like living in the 17th century.

You're a fuckin' idiot if you think all or even a majority of Republicans (or any group in America) have a "love for Putin and Russia."

You are completely embarrassing yourself showing that sort of idiocy.

At best you're just ignorant, but I wouldn't want to be either one.

 

[thedukeofearl]

There is a filter to determine how rational someone is

Marjorie Taylor Greene

 

[uihawk82]

You're a fuckin' idiot if you think all or even a majority of Republicans (or any group in America) have a "love for Putin and Russia."

You are completely embarrassing yourself showing that sort of idiocy.

At best you're just ignorant, but I wouldn't want to be either one.

Well how about 5 million conservative republicans which includes top leaders and mouthpieces like Tucker Fucker Carlson. That sure is a lot of them. I think Carlson wants to go head up Putin's state media as he seems to be auditioning for it. Russian TV keeps playing Carlson's clips.

Although we really all know what Carlson is after and why he is waaaayyyyy out there.

 

[Fryowa]

Well how about 5 million conservative republicans which includes top leaders and mouthpieces like Tucker Fucker Carlson. That sure is a lot of them. I think Carlson wants to go head up Putin's state media as he seems to be auditioning for it. Russian TV keeps playing Carlson's clips.

Although we really all know what Carlson is after and why he is waaaayyyyy out there.

Where do you come up with "5 million" conservatives? Did you do some kind of poll yourself, or did you see a legitimate poll done to see how many people support Putin?

I'm in no way, shape, or form a republican or democrat, but you're talking out of your ass and sounding completely fucking stupid. It's pretty apparent that the hatred for Putin in this country is very non-partisan.

Stop using a situation where babies are getting killed to promote your hatred for a political party (horribly, I might add).

Seriously...show me a legitimate, independent source for "5 million Americans supporting Putin and Russia" or GTFO. You're starting arguments for the sake of arguments and it ain't happening.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Well how about 5 million conservative republicans which includes top leaders and mouthpieces like Tucker Fucker Carlson. That sure is a lot of them. I think Carlson wants to go head up Putin's state media as he seems to be auditioning for it. Russian TV keeps playing Carlson's clips.

Although we really all know what Carlson is after and why he is waaaayyyyy out there.

Hey tough guy, instead of being a tough guy on the internet, why don't you fly out to DC, go to the Ukrainian embassy and sign up for their foreign legion? You can personally put the "rabid dog" down.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the "call to arms" against Iraq in 2003? Anyone remember the propaganda techniques? Good to see the old military industrial complex is still running with the "YOU'RE EITHER FOR US OR AGAINST US" gameplan in their manufacturing consent playbook. It really never gets old and watching a bunch of cuck liberals act all tough is damned near as laughable as Dukakis riding that fucking tank in '88. I'll admit it, I'm a pussy and I want nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing, to do with a nuclear armed opponent who has the potential to draw China to their side over a piece of land on the edge of Eastern Europe.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Where do you come up with "5 million" conservatives? Did you do some kind of poll yourself, or did you see a legitimate poll done to see how many people support Putin?

No one fucking supports Putin. It's literally the same god damned technique the fake news and neocon fear porn purveyors have peddled every god damned time they get antsy to drag the US into another role as WorldCop. "If you're not with us, you're against us and for Saddam Hussein..." The problem is about 90% of the populace has (a) no memory, and (b) no critical thinking skills.

 

[uihawk82]

Hey tough guy, instead of being a tough guy on the internet, why don't you fly out to DC, go to the Ukrainian embassy and sign up for their foreign legion? You can personally put the "rabid dog" down.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the "call to arms" against Iraq in 2003? Anyone remember the propaganda techniques? Good to see the old military industrial complex is still running with the "YOU'RE EITHER FOR US OR AGAINST US" gameplan in their manufacturing consent playbook. It really never gets old and watching a bunch of cuck liberals act all tough is damned near as laughable as Dukakis riding that fucking tank in '88. I'll admit it, I'm a pussy and I want nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing, to do with a nuclear armed opponent who has the potential to draw China to their side over a piece of land on the edge of Eastern Europe.

Hey, I didn't say I was a tough guy. I just asked a question. I guess I will have to research this and see where the quotes are.

 

[uihawk82]

Hey tough guy, instead of being a tough guy on the internet, why don't you fly out to DC, go to the Ukrainian embassy and sign up for their foreign legion? You can personally put the "rabid dog" down.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the "call to arms" against Iraq in 2003? Anyone remember the propaganda techniques? Good to see the old military industrial complex is still running with the "YOU'RE EITHER FOR US OR AGAINST US" gameplan in their manufacturing consent playbook. It really never gets old and watching a bunch of cuck liberals act all tough is damned near as laughable as Dukakis riding that fucking tank in '88. I'll admit it, I'm a pussy and I want nothing, abso-fucking-lutely nothing, to do with a nuclear armed opponent who has the potential to draw China to their side over a piece of land on the edge of Eastern Europe.

Oh and by the way I went through the draft in 1970. I am so old they wouldnt take me. I suppose I could fly over there on my own and slip across the border. But I have too many old injuries to run let alone jog very far. I would just be in the way and another body for them to have to clean up.

 

[uihawk82]

No one fucking supports Putin. It's literally the same god damned technique the fake news and neocon fear porn purveyors have peddled every god damned time they get antsy to drag the US into another role as WorldCop. "If you're not with us, you're against us and for Saddam Hussein..." The problem is about 90% of the populace has (a) no memory, and (b) no critical thinking skills.

You better read this https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/23/republicans-putin-biden-ukraine/ The article has quote marks in it so I think they said this shit. I will look for more

Trump and his supporters praise Putin and dismiss Biden as crisis unfolds​

A vocal group of right-leaning figures admires the Russian president for what they depict as his strength and shrewdness, while disdaining a U.S. president they dismiss as weak​

 

[uihawk82]

You're a fuckin' idiot if you think all or even a majority of Republicans (or any group in America) have a "love for Putin and Russia."

You are completely embarrassing yourself showing that sort of idiocy.

At best you're just ignorant, but I wouldn't want to be either one.

Then there is this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/technology/russia-supporters.html

‘I’ll Stand on the Side of Russia’: Pro-Putin Sentiment Spreads Online​

After marinating in conspiracy theories and Donald J. Trump’s Russia stance, some online discourse about Vladimir Putin has grown more complimentary.

The day before Russia invaded Ukraine, former President Donald J. Trump called the wartime strategy of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia “pretty smart.” His remarks were posted on YouTube, Twitter and the messaging app Telegram, where they were viewed more than 1.3 million times.

Right-wing commentators including Candace Owens, Stew Peters and Joe Oltmann also jumped into the fray online with posts that were favorable to Mr. Putin and that rationalized his actions against Ukraine. “I’ll stand on the side of Russia right now,” Mr. Oltmann, a conservative podcaster, said on his show this week.

And in Telegram groups like The Patriot Voice and Facebook groups including Texas for Donald Trump 2020, members criticized President Biden’s handling of the conflict and expressed support for Russia, with some saying they trusted Mr. Putin more than Mr. Biden.

The online conversations reflect how pro-Russia sentiment has increasingly penetrated Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, right-wing podcasts, messaging apps like Telegram and some conservative media. As Russia attacked Ukraine this week, those views spread, infusing the online discourse over the war with sympathy — and even approval — for the aggressor.

Lot's more there.... Wow . I would say there are a bunch of americans pulling for putin

And I probably know a few reasons why.

 

[Fryowa]

Then there is this: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/technology/russia-supporters.html

‘I’ll Stand on the Side of Russia’: Pro-Putin Sentiment Spreads Online​

After marinating in conspiracy theories and Donald J. Trump’s Russia stance, some online discourse about Vladimir Putin has grown more complimentary.

The day before Russia invaded Ukraine, former President Donald J. Trump called the wartime strategy of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia “pretty smart.” His remarks were posted on YouTube, Twitter and the messaging app Telegram, where they were viewed more than 1.3 million times.

Right-wing commentators including Candace Owens, Stew Peters and Joe Oltmann also jumped into the fray online with posts that were favorable to Mr. Putin and that rationalized his actions against Ukraine. “I’ll stand on the side of Russia right now,” Mr. Oltmann, a conservative podcaster, said on his show this week.

And in Telegram groups like The Patriot Voice and Facebook groups including Texas for Donald Trump 2020, members criticized President Biden’s handling of the conflict and expressed support for Russia, with some saying they trusted Mr. Putin more than Mr. Biden.

The online conversations reflect how pro-Russia sentiment has increasingly penetrated Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, right-wing podcasts, messaging apps like Telegram and some conservative media. As Russia attacked Ukraine this week, those views spread, infusing the online discourse over the war with sympathy — and even approval — for the aggressor.

Lot's more there.... Wow . I would say there are a bunch of americans pulling for putin

And I probably know a few reasons why.

You’re still about 4.999+ million short there, bub. And getting your info from liberal outlets is about as reliable as the 1991 Dodge Dakota I had growing up. As in it didn’t fucking run.

You got one more chance to show me 5 million Americans supporting Putin before you get shut down.

 

[PCHawk]

The only pro Russia things I've seen from anyone is just backhanded ways to dis Biden. Republican politicians are using this as a way to try to make Biden look bad. Democrats would do the exact same if a Republican was in office.

That said, there are racists, anti semites and neo nazis in this country (just like their are in every other country) so I assume you can find some pro Russian people out there. Hell there's even Russians living in America so there's almost bound to be some of them to count towards the 5 mil.

 

[PCHawk]

You’re still about 4.999+ million short there, bub. And getting your info from liberal outlets is about as reliable as the 1991 Dodge Dakota I had growing up. As in it didn’t fucking run.

You got one more chance to show me 5 million Americans supporting Putin before you get shut down.

Hey I thought this was the open discussion forum.

 

[uihawk82]

You’re still about 4.999+ million short there, bub. And getting your info from liberal outlets is about as reliable as the 1991 Dodge Dakota I had growing up. As in it didn’t fucking run.

You got one more chance to show me 5 million Americans supporting Putin before you get shut down.

What do you mean by 'shut down'? Do you mean this thread taken down, or I will be shut down because I can't come up with 5 million names, or shut down as in banned?

I thought this was a totally open, unmoderated forum.

 

[scojo3]

Love of Putin? I don't know about that, but they are over the target. Wait and see...

 

[HuckFinn]

I don’t know about 5 million. What I do know is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. Trump’s own words define his position on Putin and other alike Thugs. Read or listen to them. Therefore, the Republican Party is complicit until they denounce Trump as their leader. That, my friends, is a fact. There is simply nothing controversial about that statement. You lie down with dogs, you arise with fleas. Reality sucks.

 

[okeefe4prez]

I don’t know about 5 million. What I do know is that Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. Trump’s own words define his position on Putin and other alike Thugs. Read or listen to them. Therefore, the Republican Party is complicit until they denounce Trump as their leader. That, my friends, is a fact. There is simply nothing controversial about that statement. You lie down with dogs, you arise with fleas. Reality sucks.

Complicit in what, exactly? Look, the Democrats have the White House. They have Congress. They have the Senate. They have complete control. And things have literally never been better. The Republicans are losers, their position on any issue is irrelevant. The country is in totally capable hands after being under the control of a fascist dictator for four years.

 

[Fryowa]

What do you mean by 'shut down'? Do you mean this thread taken down, or I will be shut down because I can't come up with 5 million names, or shut down as in banned?

I thought this was a totally open, unmoderated forum.

Not if any side is going to spout flat out lies to make their political point. Ask @ClintonIAfan how that worked with his COVID posts in this forum.

Again, I’m not a R or D, but you’re accusing half of America of being Putin supporters when he’s massacring women and children and doing his best attempt at genocide. I ain’t havin’ that, Jack. You don’t like it, report it to management. They didn’t want the OT stuff allowed on here to begin with.

I personally know a WHOLE lot of folks who consider themselves republicans, and not a one of ‘em has a shred of sympathy for Vladimir Putin. In fact, every one of them I’ve talked to feel he should die a slow, painful death.

So take it or leave it.

 

[Fryowa]

Therefore, the Republican Party is complicit until they denounce Trump as their leader. That, my friends, is a fact. There is simply nothing controversial about that statement. You lie down with dogs, you arise with fleas. Reality sucks.

That’s horseshit. That’s like saying all Russians are in favor of the war because they’re Russian. We both know that’s not true at all.

Trump doesn’t own the Republican Party.

If you had a priest that turned out to be a child molester should you be forced to renounce Catholicism because the archbishops refused to acknowledge it or support prosecution? No. Because you’d know that the principles you believed in (right, wrong, or otherwise) were bigger than any one individual.

Trust me, I’m no fucking apologist when it comes to conservatism, but fair is fair. Just like you don’t think people should consider you a communist for being liberal with no middle ground, also they should not throw all republicans in with Donald Trump.