Who replaces KF
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tailgater371
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I'm not sold on Brian taking over. That said while you may not find many sons taking over a program from the father I bet there are numerous examples of an OC taking over. You act like Brian is coaching HS somewhere just waiting to take the job.
trj
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Frank Beamer and Bill Snyder are the 2 you are looking at and asking yourself what couldn't they figure out that KF possibly could.
I would put the over/under at 70 and take the over.
Unknown is if BF can be given the job with a clandestine verbal. Then, all bets off.
There are few unknowns with Kirk, little that isn't planned out, usually with little flexibility. Perhaps the MRS hasn't shown him the playbook yet.
guffus
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That's a good point. While it happens occasionally in college basketball, there are not a lot of examples in P5 football.
Bobby Bowden had 2 kids become head coaches, and another one he was grooming, but none of them ended up head coach at FSU.
Joe Paterno was trying to groom Jay for the job but it did not work out.
There is not a lot of precedent for it happening.
karras
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At 67 people are fully vested in social security. So let's use that as the baseline for retirement (not that any Ferentz will be relying on SSI in their retirement).
If Paterno had retired at 67 his legacy would've remained in tact. Had Hayden Fry retired at 67 he would've been coming off a Top 25 season. Negating the idiotic narrative that he destroyed Iowa football.
The moral to the story? RETIRE BEFORE YOUR 68th BIRTHDAY!!! Kirk is not going to retire until he has a guarantee that BF replaces him . . . in my opinion.
If Paterno had retired at 67 his legacy would've remained in tact. Had Hayden Fry retired at 67 he would've been coming off a Top 25 season. Negating the idiotic narrative that he destroyed Iowa football.
The moral to the story? RETIRE BEFORE YOUR 68th BIRTHDAY!!! Kirk is not going to retire until he has a guarantee that BF replaces him . . . in my opinion.
I am sure there is a detailed plan in place for this, Kirk Master Plan, even as the word is...there are no plans, coming from his family, peeps, himself.
Who knows if BF is the answer to move Iowa beyond a touch above average. I would think there are many talented and young coaches who might see Iowa as a place that is ready to jump up a notch or two with the right energy and recruiting. An apple, ripe for the picking.
I'm doing nothing of the sort my man. I fully acknowledge Brian's resume and actually trust that he's a really strong young football mind. If it all works out... and we ride off into the Rose Bowl sunsets with Brian Ferentz lifting the trophy on the shoulders of his All American O lineman... we will all be happy. Brian Ferentz will be remembered as a guy who worked his tail off to dominate in college and then make the NFL. Worked his way up through coaching, worked under Belichick for the Patriots, mastered O-Line schemes and brought a unique strategy/scheme to CFB. He continued and bettered the Ferentz legacy at Iowa...
I'm simply considering the possibility that BF becomes head coach and things don't go so well. What if we have a mediocre run of years, with little to feel good about, and BF takes over as Kirk finally calls it quits. BF can't quite get the program kickstarted as well as we hope, recruiting lags behind where we need to be, he misses on a few key coaching hires... things go from "okay" to actually pretty bad over a few seasons. What will we say then? Why did we let the boss' son take over, when he wasn't ready and was NOT qualified for the job? Forget about the short term losses and few seasons that we sacrifice as the program suffers. What does it say about our program that we would let that happen? Where is the high-level oversight to manage risk and make good, long term decisions ?
Iowa's Athletic Department is a business and football is the #1 product / revenue generator. Barta is our CEO and, like many organizations, he's the 2nd most important guy in the company. The President of Football operations (aka the Head Coach) is the top dog in the whole company. Small companies might hire for this role with internal (nepotism) type candidates. Iowa Football is no longer a small company. For our next HC, an internal + nepotism hire would be outrageous and discreditable.
tksirius
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Well, Chad would know. He's their housekeeper.
HuckFinn
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What you have described is absolutely accurate. I would only add that if we take BF’s name out of your post and add the name of some unknown future hire, your analysis would probably fit just fine.
Can't imagine going from probably 70 hour weeks to nothing. As intense and time consuming (and stressful) the job is, I can't imagine just stepping away. I think Saban just had a quote out there about him taking some time off and golfing and he said something to the effect of if this is what retirement is like I am not for it. I bet they cart Belichek off the field in a hearse.
NorthKCHawk
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I too feel like this is a bit of a dead horse, or at least it is something not likely to be an issue for 4-5 more years. However, I think the BF thing is more simple than most. It only works if Iowa football is perceived to be at or near a high water mark when KF announces. If we are coming off a 10-win season and KF hangs them up, then why wouldn't we want to keep the continuity and momentum by hiring internally? BF, despite being the coach's son, will certainly be a qualified candidate for the job, and I think I would support a continuation of a successful direction.
If, however, we are coming off back to back 6-6, 7-5 type seasons, there would be a tremendous outcry for a fresh direction.
Obviously, there is a bit of middle ground there . . . 8-5 with an average bowl win enough to want to hand the crown to Brian? How about coming off of last season? Tougher call.
If the Ferentz boys want to pull this off, they need to time it right...
If, however, we are coming off back to back 6-6, 7-5 type seasons, there would be a tremendous outcry for a fresh direction.
Obviously, there is a bit of middle ground there . . . 8-5 with an average bowl win enough to want to hand the crown to Brian? How about coming off of last season? Tougher call.
If the Ferentz boys want to pull this off, they need to time it right...
Things will get ugly, if BF doesn't fulfill his destiny as the HC at Iowa. Perhaps there is some way Kirk can get him in the HC slot, even though he isn't ready for such a promotion (or gift), and allow him to "learn on the job" for 3-4 years, while drawing HC salary yet not being held to HC performance expectations. A type of no risk mentoring?
I question BF's maturity as a person at times, crying, whining, blaming childish actions and words. Kind of like FM. Kirk is more into pouting and silence and revenge.
My two cents, Kirk will be here a long time, and ultimately Iowa will be better off with a new, innovative coach from the outside who loves Iowa, the conference, and has the drive and personality to recruit as his (or her) first love.
NorthKCHawk
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Even BF recently commented he is not quite ready. Will he be in 5 years? 5 years is a long time to mature and grow. KF has had his moments in the past. Remember when he threatened to fart on the press corp?
I think to put a bow on this issue, I would say that I am glad this is not a decision that has to be made anytime soon . . .
I think to put a bow on this issue, I would say that I am glad this is not a decision that has to be made anytime soon . . .
