SteveGarvey
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We've been playing NBA All-Star game type defense lately.
Who has the inside info?
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We've been playing NBA All-Star game type defense lately.
glidinghawk
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Had Gesell and Marble hit 2 or 3 of those wide those open looks in the first 5 minutes of the NW game, Iowa would have won it easily. And who knows what would have happened in the quarter finals.
It is definitely a confidence issue with shooting the ball. They need to relax.
Hawkguy314
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Igothawked
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I think he is a wine and scotch guy. Might be a good start.
SteveGarvey
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HawkeyeWalker
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Defense has absolutely been sub par in the second half of the conf schedule, and it has been a major factor in losses. That said, IMO, poor shooting, even open looks, has been the primary cause of losses, especially a few if the last 6 games.
I can't argue that when you have teams consistently having their highest scoring game against you that obviously you're not defending well. We led the conf in scoring but that avg went way down the last 8 or so games, I would bet out fg percentage for the last 8 games is far below the teams avg.
Again, we are talking about 6+ losses this year by 5 or less points....a couple makes/misses. We were in Every Game (except 1) inside of the last minute. I cling to this fact as hope we are better than our final record and much better than we've shown in the last 7-8 games.
Mich(the conf champ) barely beat that Awful Illinois team we lost to, PSU swept a possible 2 seed in WISC, OSU barely beat Purdue......I won't argue we don't seem to have "IT" to close games.....but we are not too far away (albeit the last couple games have been brutal, and confidence shaking)
MisterLucky
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I agree it is shooting. Seems like when we come out and clank the first 5-6 shots, we just never seem to get our confidence back and it spreads throughout the team.
eveningnewsteam
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There's no tiff. It's a mix of things. First of all, in this stretch teams have played remarkable against Iowa. Iowa's defense hasn't been good, but for god sakes look at some of the shots these teams are making against Iowa. It started with Minnesota, everything they threw up went down and it's been the case with every opponent since. Dave sobolewski? Are you ******* kidding me?
Couple that with Iowa just not playing well at the moment and it's ugly.
Couple that with Iowa just not playing well at the moment and it's ugly.
hawkdrummer1
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Wouldn't be too hard to speculate on that. Just look for a guy who shoots twice as much as any body else on the team. Or perhaps a somewhat petulant Senior.
bcl20
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I don't get it.
Not to fan flames or rumors, but I've wondered a couple of things:
*Has the sickness that kept coming back to bite Melsahn Basabe essentially wiped out his season? He just doesn't seem to be able to keep his energy for very long. If so, I feel bad for the young man, because we've all seen what he can do when he is fully healthy. Even when he comes out strong (several key rebounds early in the Northwestern game), it seems he can't sustain it;
*Is there something affecting Gesell's shooting (like an injury)? He certainly wouldn't be the first player to have a season wiped out by something like a nagging wrist injury that he won't say anything about because he doesn't want to use it as an excuse. But the idea that a point guard's free throws are, at best, a crap shoot seems strange to me. I just can't get over the fact that, somewhere inside that young man, is a much better shooter;
*Is there at least some truth to the idea that, because of the long season (that goes back to Europe), they have hit a wall? Those that doubt that would point to the "one-game-in-thirteen-days" they had after the Indiana/Assembly Hall debacle. But in that light, see what a major league team would do after having thirteen days off after the World Series - they're still tired, but now they have also lost their edge - they may or may not ever get it back without an off-season;
*I also can't ignore the fact that we have had the misfortune of playing a lot of teams lately with a giant "chip on their shoulder." A couple of them (Ohio State, Illinois) had been playing so badly up to the Iowa game, they had had "player-only meetings" prior to the Iowa game. Even some of the others, like Michigan State, Northwestern and Northwestern were coming off something pretty bad - Tom Izzo even stepped in when Sparty wanted to have such a meeting prior to our game. I'd LOVE to play one game on terms where the two teams just play.
Yes, losing breeds speculation. But often-times there really is more to it. But nothing would cure that than an NCAA bid followed by a victory - then another - then ... GO HAWKS!!
*Has the sickness that kept coming back to bite Melsahn Basabe essentially wiped out his season? He just doesn't seem to be able to keep his energy for very long. If so, I feel bad for the young man, because we've all seen what he can do when he is fully healthy. Even when he comes out strong (several key rebounds early in the Northwestern game), it seems he can't sustain it;
*Is there something affecting Gesell's shooting (like an injury)? He certainly wouldn't be the first player to have a season wiped out by something like a nagging wrist injury that he won't say anything about because he doesn't want to use it as an excuse. But the idea that a point guard's free throws are, at best, a crap shoot seems strange to me. I just can't get over the fact that, somewhere inside that young man, is a much better shooter;
*Is there at least some truth to the idea that, because of the long season (that goes back to Europe), they have hit a wall? Those that doubt that would point to the "one-game-in-thirteen-days" they had after the Indiana/Assembly Hall debacle. But in that light, see what a major league team would do after having thirteen days off after the World Series - they're still tired, but now they have also lost their edge - they may or may not ever get it back without an off-season;
*I also can't ignore the fact that we have had the misfortune of playing a lot of teams lately with a giant "chip on their shoulder." A couple of them (Ohio State, Illinois) had been playing so badly up to the Iowa game, they had had "player-only meetings" prior to the Iowa game. Even some of the others, like Michigan State, Northwestern and Northwestern were coming off something pretty bad - Tom Izzo even stepped in when Sparty wanted to have such a meeting prior to our game. I'd LOVE to play one game on terms where the two teams just play.
Yes, losing breeds speculation. But often-times there really is more to it. But nothing would cure that than an NCAA bid followed by a victory - then another - then ... GO HAWKS!!
JonDMiller
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This team just doesn't act like a close team. ..that's mostly all conjecture....yeah, you hear things but I just don't have any corroboration and even then, nothing I have heard is beyond the standard fare. But like I said after the NW loss, IMO, they just don't seem like they play for each other. Probably a combination of a lot of things.
Dance bound and they don't like each other. Saddest thing I have heard since Lickliter's last season.
eveningnewsteam
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They look like its a chore to play basketball
hawkeyebob62
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<<(T)hat's mostly all conjecture>>
That sort of makes no sense
Frankly, I think...
1) They're tired (and the layoff because of Indiana Falling Metal Piece Killer exacerbated rather than gave respite)
2) Fran ain't the "wonder boy" many think (poor...or NO...adjustments, poor line-up choices, leaving cold players on the floor or pulling hot players, not pulling guys who seem to think going after a rebound or loose ball is 'optional', etc.). I know some think he is god-like. He simply isn't. For those that rank on KF (i.e., 93.4 % of you), he shows a class and restraint that Fran doesn't. He doesn't tell ESPN what Mary is doing or what bigwig she is voting for or what rally she is attending, he doesn't throw or slam stuff, he doesn't get in officials' faces. The list goes on.
What Fran DOES share in common with KF is (at least a semblance of) humility, and he doesn't blame refs or make excuses. But up to this point, he hasn't been a coach in a major conference, and while he has been an assistant, b-ball is different than football in that respect.
And we DO have a bright side. Woodbury has definitely improved, as has Olaseni. Jok shows promise. White, Gessell and Oglesby have all improved areas of their game. Clemmons certainly won't get worse, as he has had such a drop in PT that more experience can do nothing BUT help. We have some good commits. And we have other guys that should enter the mix next years, as well.
glidinghawk
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It didn't help when McCaffery said the team was fragile after the loss to the Illini. It must have rubbed off on Marble, because he also used the word 'fragile' to desrribe the team in his post-game interview. Not exactly a vote of confidence from the head man and the senior leader as they headed to Indy for the BTT.
So, that's it.
Iowa is FRAGILE.
Knight78
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I heard that nothing is going on from your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
franstheman
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There is nothing wrong with fran talking about marg in that interview. If me had a guess I'd says you no like obama.<<(T)hat's mostly all conjecture>>
That sort of makes no sense
Frankly, I think...
1) They're tired (and the layoff because of Indiana Falling Metal Piece Killer exacerbated rather than gave respite)
2) Fran ain't the "wonder boy" many think (poor...or NO...adjustments, poor line-up choices, leaving cold players on the floor or pulling hot players, not pulling guys who seem to think going after a rebound or loose ball is 'optional', etc.). I know some think he is god-like. He simply isn't. For those that rank on KF (i.e., 93.4 % of you), he shows a class and restraint that Fran doesn't. He doesn't tell ESPN what Mary is doing or what bigwig she is voting for or what rally she is attending, he doesn't throw or slam stuff, he doesn't get in officials' faces. The list goes on.
What Fran DOES share in common with KF is (at least a semblance of) humility, and he doesn't blame refs or make excuses. But up to this point, he hasn't been a coach in a major conference, and while he has been an assistant, b-ball is different than football in that respect.
And we DO have a bright side. Woodbury has definitely improved, as has Olaseni. Jok shows promise. White, Gessell and Oglesby have all improved areas of their game. Clemmons certainly won't get worse, as he has had such a drop in PT that more experience can do nothing BUT help. We have some good commits. And we have other guys that should enter the mix next years, as well.
