When we're undefeated at the end of this season...

[DexterMorgan]

Well I would imagine that you are among the many who are sick of Boise, correct? So why not let them in, get their teeth kicked in, and then not have to hear from them ever again? I agree that their resume won't be that impressive considering who they play. But 3 straight 12-0 seasons for a team that gets as much hype as BSU does these days? If that's not enough to finally punch a ticket, there's going to be riots.

I get sick of the superiority complex everyone has. Let them go out and prove it one way or another. I hated the Fiesta Bowl matchup this past year (and have no doubt that it was set up that way intentionally), letting them in to "keep them in their place". Let these teams go out and prove themselves. If they can't do it, then go away. If they can, well then we've got little room to complain.

All that tells me is their competition is **** poor.

 

[DunderMifflinHk]

If Iowa goes undefeated at the end of the season and there are only two other undefeated teams, and the others are Boise and an SEC or Big 12 team, I think Iowa would need to get screwed not to get into the BCS champ game.

Why do I say this? Because Iowa's computer numbers would be so much better than Boise's that the human voters would have to put Iowa behind some of the one loss teams. Basically, they would have to manipulate the system in an obvious manner to keep us out.

This. If we would went undefeated last year we would of jumped texas also. The computers hated them and loved us. We would of played 'bama. This year if we go undefeated it would be tough to keep us out too.

 

[DFaceHawkeye]

Well I would imagine that you are among the many who are sick of Boise, correct? So why not let them in, get their teeth kicked in, and then not have to hear from them ever again? I agree that their resume won't be that impressive considering who they play. But 3 straight 12-0 seasons for a team that gets as much hype as BSU does these days? If that's not enough to finally punch a ticket, there's going to be riots.

I get sick of the superiority complex everyone has. Let them go out and prove it one way or another. I hated the Fiesta Bowl matchup this past year (and have no doubt that it was set up that way intentionally), letting them in to "keep them in their place". Let these teams go out and prove themselves. If they can't do it, then go away. If they can, well then we've got little room to complain.

Just because a team's conference isn't very good doesn't mean that the best team can't play in it. No different than the best player playing for the worst team. They aren't exclusive things. Does their schedule make things easier on them? Sure. Does that automatically mean they aren't good enough? No. Let them prove it one way or the other.

In the regular season, like everyone else does against much stiffer competition. I'm not sick of them, but don't think they belong until they step up and prove week in and week out they can play with tougher competition.

 

[tm3308]

In the regular season, like everyone else does against much stiffer competition. I'm not sick of them, but don't think they belong until they step up and prove week in and week out they can play with tougher competition.

People say the same thing about TCU, Utah, and BYU too. There's not a lot that these teams can do. Boise can play, at most, 4 tough AQ teams per year. Not very many schools are willing to take them up on the offer to play them, but we expect them to get 4 games against good teams a year? They can't do "week in, week out" because they are limited by the conference they compete in. They can't help that. That doesn't mean they aren't the best.

And I love how the AQ conference fans say stuff like "we prove ourselves every week by playing tougher competition". Really? Boise couldn't run the table in the Big East? They couldn't win the ACC? They'd be pretty competitive in the Big 12, since that's a two horse show. They'd only have to "get up" for 2 games (I'm operating under the post-expansion Big 12, so no Nebraska). That's no different than they do now.

The AQ conferences aren't full of elite programs. We've got more than our fair share of bad programs, too. Hell, the SEC (top to bottom) is pretty weak nowadays. It's 'Bama, Florida (who I'm not COMPLETELY sold on for this year), and then it drops off in a hurry.

The Big Ten has several teams who are not very good, and we played just about all of them last year (Minny, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana). NOBODY proves it week in, week out, because everyone has weak conference opponents now that provide breathers.

 

[DFaceHawkeye]

People say the same thing about TCU, Utah, and BYU too. There's not a lot that these teams can do. Boise can play, at most, 4 tough AQ teams per year. Not very many schools are willing to take them up on the offer to play them, but we expect them to get 4 games against good teams a year? They can't do "week in, week out" because they are limited by the conference they compete in. They can't help that. That doesn't mean they aren't the best.

And I love how the AQ conference fans say stuff like "we prove ourselves every week by playing tougher competition". Really? Boise couldn't run the table in the Big East? They couldn't win the ACC? We don't know, and I'm not convinced.

They'd be pretty competitive in the Big 12, since that's a two horse show. They'd only have to "get up" for 2 games (I'm operating under the post-expansion Big 12, so no Nebraska). That's no different than they do now.

The AQ conferences aren't full of elite programs. We've got more than our fair share of bad programs, too. Hell, the SEC (top to bottom) is pretty weak nowadays. It's 'Bama, Florida (who I'm not COMPLETELY sold on for this year), and then it drops off in a hurry.

The Big Ten has several teams who are not very good, and we played just about all of them last year (Minny, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana). NOBODY proves it week in, week out, because everyone has weak conference opponents now that provide breathers.

So you're saying that playing the tougher teams in a tougher conference doesn't take a toll on a team throughout a season as compared to a weaker conference. Plus, you'll have to bring some numbers that show the weak teams in AQ conferences (esp. the BT one's you named) as bad or worse than the weak team in non-AQ conferences.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Well I would imagine that you are among the many who are sick of Boise, correct? So why not let them in, get their teeth kicked in, and then not have to hear from them ever again? I agree that their resume won't be that impressive considering who they play. But 3 straight 12-0 seasons for a team that gets as much hype as BSU does these days? If that's not enough to finally punch a ticket, there's going to be riots.

I get sick of the superiority complex everyone has. Let them go out and prove it one way or another. I hated the Fiesta Bowl matchup this past year (and have no doubt that it was set up that way intentionally), letting them in to "keep them in their place". Let these teams go out and prove themselves. If they can't do it, then go away. If they can, well then we've got little room to complain.

Just because a team's conference isn't very good doesn't mean that the best team can't play in it. No different than the best player playing for the worst team. They aren't exclusive things. Does their schedule make things easier on them? Sure. Does that automatically mean they aren't good enough? No. Let them prove it one way or the other.

If Boise is undefeated and there is only one other undefeated team in the country, then they can play for the title, that's fine. But if there's another team in a BCS conference that's also undefeated then they should get picked over Boise.

I also hated the Fiesta Bowl last season, I wanted to see Florida play either Boise or TCU. During their back to back undefeated seasons, they've really only beat one top 25 BCS conference team, Oregon and they've split with TCU the last two years. Boise knows they play in a terrible conference, they could do more to improve their non conference schedule. Despite how they make it seem like they're always the victim, they've had schools offered to play them and Boise has turned them down.

Moving to the MWC next season will help, but I have no issues with Boise being bypassed again this season if there are two other unbeaten teams.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

People say the same thing about TCU, Utah, and BYU too. There's not a lot that these teams can do. Boise can play, at most, 4 tough AQ teams per year. Not very many schools are willing to take them up on the offer to play them, but we expect them to get 4 games against good teams a year? They can't do "week in, week out" because they are limited by the conference they compete in. They can't help that. That doesn't mean they aren't the best.

And I love how the AQ conference fans say stuff like "we prove ourselves every week by playing tougher competition". Really? Boise couldn't run the table in the Big East? They couldn't win the ACC? They'd be pretty competitive in the Big 12, since that's a two horse show. They'd only have to "get up" for 2 games (I'm operating under the post-expansion Big 12, so no Nebraska). That's no different than they do now.

The AQ conferences aren't full of elite programs. We've got more than our fair share of bad programs, too. Hell, the SEC (top to bottom) is pretty weak nowadays. It's 'Bama, Florida (who I'm not COMPLETELY sold on for this year), and then it drops off in a hurry.

The Big Ten has several teams who are not very good, and we played just about all of them last year (Minny, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana). NOBODY proves it week in, week out, because everyone has weak conference opponents now that provide breathers.

Are you really comparing the bottom schools in BCS conferences to the bottom of the WAC? Michigan, Indiana, Minnesota, Vandy, Maryland, Kansas whoever you want to list would run through a schedule of SMU, Utah St, San Jose St. If Boise St played in the B12 they would most likely lose 3+ games, they would have to get up for a lot more than Oklahoma and Texas. If you don't think Texas Tech, Missouri or Ok St. could have given Boise a game you are being pretty ignorant.

The talent difference between teams at the bottom and top of BCS conferences is much narrower than the difference between Boise St and the bottom of the WAC. Look at Ohio St last year, losing to Purdue. How many games does Purdue win in the WAC, 6? 7?

 

[Hawkize1]

Iowa's 2009 season with 11 wins and a BSC Bowl win would help the Hawks so much for a 2010 undefeated campaign. I can't help but think last years record and BCS Bowl win provided an air of legitimacy for voters, that will pay dividends for this season.

 

[CAARHawk]

People stop being stupid! The BCS is not an invitation bowl! It is based on polls and computers! The computers are NOT going to favor Boise. If two teams from major conferences are undefeated Boise gets left out. This would only not happen if the human polls stuck one of the undefeated BCS down the polls behind some one loss teams.

For instance,
1. Boise
2. Bama
3. One loss Texas
4. Iowa

Even then it would require Utah, Va Tech and OSU to have strong seasons.

 

[DDHawkeye]

It does matter to pocket books and perception. Perception is reality and a NC title at the UofI would be huge! You just cant deny it.

on a side note I am sick of fans saying IF we go undefeated. Do you think the players goals are to maybe go undefeated, and maybe get into a good bowl game? As fans we need to help inspire the players to their goals, and i guarantee without being in the locker room their goal is the NC title! To do better then last year! To be the best and beat the best!

Which if they are the best and beat the best that means that the NC title game will be:

Regular size Hawkeyes vs. mini Hawkeyes

now who would win that match up?

I completely agree.... HARD!

Also, is Ferentz mini too? Or is he regular size?

 

[clim33]

It would be cool to have that problem......but it is way too early to talk about that