And when mistakes happen you get body slammed by a low land gorilla (aka MSU). DON'T get body slammed by a low land gorilla or we send McCabe out on the floor!
When Did It All Go Wrong?
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And when mistakes happen you get body slammed by a low land gorilla (aka MSU). DON'T get body slammed by a low land gorilla or we send McCabe out on the floor!
jwegner
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Big 12 schools invented the computer, the fax, the personal computer, etc. Just think what they could do if they tried at academics like the awesome Big 10.
If the players bought into the hype and started playing bad then that's one thing. But who cares if the fans bought into the hype? The hype was diserved. People aren't upset because they didn't meet expectations. They're upset because they lost all effort and tanked. That has nothing to do with the fans.
HawkeyeShane
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When did it all go wrong?
Well...without reading 3 pages of everyone else's thoughts, I'm going to guess I'm not the only one who has thought this, but I think it was the Wisconsin game in Carver-Hawkeye...it reminds me of when the football team started heading south in 2010 after getting beat at Arizona and at home to Wisky a few games later then totally hit the skids while losing to Northwestern...Ohio State and Minnesota to finish out the season.
Hopefully the comparison will continue with a couple of NCAA wins like that season ended with a bowl win over Mizzou.
Well...without reading 3 pages of everyone else's thoughts, I'm going to guess I'm not the only one who has thought this, but I think it was the Wisconsin game in Carver-Hawkeye...it reminds me of when the football team started heading south in 2010 after getting beat at Arizona and at home to Wisky a few games later then totally hit the skids while losing to Northwestern...Ohio State and Minnesota to finish out the season.
Hopefully the comparison will continue with a couple of NCAA wins like that season ended with a bowl win over Mizzou.
HawkeyeWalker
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I agree completely, my wording was bad.
Fans didn't cause the collapse on the court, but fans buying the hyper did cause overinflated expectations. That said, the only two losses that I think were really bad...were the last two....and here we are.
ibahawkeye
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This is silly and totally discredits what Fran has done as a coach.
If you think you can just go hire an ex player with no coaching experience and expect the same type of results, I think you're wrong.
It's not that easy and that's why what Fred has done is so fricking impressive.
HawkeyeShane
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hawkeyebob62
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The Indiana Falling Killer Piece of Metal is what did it.
We came off a decent win AT PSU, growling to playing at Bloomington. The delay happens, team doesn't know whether to stay or go, whether they will play Wednesday, etc., then the Wiscy game becomes a "rust" game, along with Mel getting sick. The wheels were off at that point, we just didn't know it...
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DDThompson
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Easy.
Wisconsin home loss. That was their 3rd loss against big boy teams at home.
After all the accolades by beating OSU there, writers said this team passed a huge hurdle: the type of win that propels teams to competing for conference championships and deep runs in the NCAAs.
Not so fast.
Three home losses and the third one snuffing them out of championship contention knocked their confidence down to nil.
All the "not liking one another" and "not talking on defense" and "not playing for one another" and "selfish play" stem from this; none of that was heard about until after that game.
Wisconsin home loss. That was their 3rd loss against big boy teams at home.
After all the accolades by beating OSU there, writers said this team passed a huge hurdle: the type of win that propels teams to competing for conference championships and deep runs in the NCAAs.
Not so fast.
Three home losses and the third one snuffing them out of championship contention knocked their confidence down to nil.
All the "not liking one another" and "not talking on defense" and "not playing for one another" and "selfish play" stem from this; none of that was heard about until after that game.
eyekwah
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The topic is "when" did it all go wrong? For those that point to the cancelled Indiana game there is some legitimacy to that theory. Just look at the record after that cancellation. The other popular theory being posted is that Fran failed to cut the rotation down to 8 players, which I am not discounting. However, that wasn't a problem leading up to the game cancellation. My feeling is that fatigue, mental and physical, are culprits here. I'm going to pick out Aaron White.
After finishing the NIT he has basically 6 weeks off until he becomes part of the US Men's team for the World University Games. Immediately after that he travels with the Iowa team to Europe and plays more games. He gets back and school starts and practice almost begins as soon as classes start. He isn't the same Aaron that began the season, the quickness is gone and he isn't moving as well without the ball.
Basketball still comes down to putting the ball in the basket more times than the opponent. The last six games Iowa did not shoot the ball with any accuracy. I'll pick out Geselle, he goes zero for ten against NW. Iowa is 5 of 22 at one point in the second half against NW. So Geselle isn't the only member with a lost shooting touch. Legs are an important part of shooting and tired legs equals poorer shooting.
I did my fair share of Monday morning quarterbacking on what Iowa could have done differently against these last six games, like full court pressing Indiana and NW at some points. They did try it late in those games and it was beaten most of time. Again fatigue doesn't lend to a successful press.
The second half failures is an indicator that this Iowa team is gassed at half time. While Iowa is a tall team it is slender and can be pushed around if allowed, and it is allowed. Looking ahead Iowa needs to look at its strength and conditioning program.
After finishing the NIT he has basically 6 weeks off until he becomes part of the US Men's team for the World University Games. Immediately after that he travels with the Iowa team to Europe and plays more games. He gets back and school starts and practice almost begins as soon as classes start. He isn't the same Aaron that began the season, the quickness is gone and he isn't moving as well without the ball.
Basketball still comes down to putting the ball in the basket more times than the opponent. The last six games Iowa did not shoot the ball with any accuracy. I'll pick out Geselle, he goes zero for ten against NW. Iowa is 5 of 22 at one point in the second half against NW. So Geselle isn't the only member with a lost shooting touch. Legs are an important part of shooting and tired legs equals poorer shooting.
I did my fair share of Monday morning quarterbacking on what Iowa could have done differently against these last six games, like full court pressing Indiana and NW at some points. They did try it late in those games and it was beaten most of time. Again fatigue doesn't lend to a successful press.
The second half failures is an indicator that this Iowa team is gassed at half time. While Iowa is a tall team it is slender and can be pushed around if allowed, and it is allowed. Looking ahead Iowa needs to look at its strength and conditioning program.
