What needs to happen for Ferentz to be Fired

thefizz

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I'm not sure of the exact terms of Ferentz's buyout are, I just know that the buyout is substantial. It is a major obstacle when it comes to making a coaching change in the short term. So if you really want a regime change, you need to root hard for one or both of these things to happen...

1) You need to not only root for this years team to finish below .500, but your also need the 2018 season to be a dumpster fire as well. I'm not talking about 7-5 being a dumpster fire. I'm talking something along the lines of 2012 where they went 4-8. Following that sort of season, it would also have to appear with whatever returning talent from 2018 will indicate that the 2019 season will be just as bad. In this scenario, pressure from the outside could get so intense that a 64 year old Kirk Ferentz decides he doesn't have the energy to turn it around and decides to step down.

Is this likely or unlikely?

This scenario is unlikely. The team has several 1st and 2nd year players that are playing important roles on offense and
the DL and DB's will also return some experience for the 2018 and 2019 seasons as well. So it would appear to me that the Hawkeyes should only get better. How much better? I can't say. Maybe they'll end up with a pair of 9-10 win seasons. Maybe they end up with just a pair of 6-8 win seasons. Either way, I think it's a safe bet that they improve enough to not be a dumpster fire in the 2018 and 2019 seasons. Personally, I'm not rooting for the dumpster fire scenario.

2) You need to root for a big time scandal to break out that directly involves Ferentz. Maybe something like what happened at Baylor where sexual assault was being covered up. Maybe something like at Ole Miss where recruits and players are being paid. Maybe a big time scandal involving players grades comes to light. Whatever it is, it would have to be something that destroys his reputation and is something that will bring about punishment to the Iowa football program.

Is this likely or unlikely?

This scenario is unlikely, but not impossible to imagine. Kirk appears to be an honorable man and I believe he is so. But I'm also fairly cynical in regards to what may or may not be happening regarding Power 5 football programs. Whether that be players receiving $100 handshakes, "improper" benefits, legal cover ups, players being kept eligible or coaches being involved in sketchy activity. I'm not saying they happen everywhere, but these things do happen and they can happen anywhere. The NCAA doesn't exactly have the resources to catch sketchy yet not illegal activity unless it's handed to them on a silver platter so I don't think it's likely the NCAA stumbles upon something. It's always possible for legal troubles to hit the program, but I don't even want to go down that road. It should go without stating, but I'm not going to root for this scenario.
 
I think some have suggested that it has something to do with the stars aligning. Look for Ferentus Derelictus in the southern sky. I suggest you go to the countryside, away from the city lights, for the best viewing.
 
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We needed another thread for this I suppose, compared to the several page thread discussing it below. It will take a losing season, probably 2 at least. Again, I want to know what schools fire coaches without the losing season or scandal? I am sure there are some but it's pretty rare.
 
We needed another thread for this I suppose, compared to the several page thread discussing it below. It will take a losing season, probably 2 at least. Again, I want to know what schools fire coaches without the losing season or scandal? I am sure there are some but it's pretty rare.

I know what thread you're referring to. It was already 40 posts deep and I didn't feel like reading all of them and then posting on it. The only examples I can think of when a school like Iowa was more or less having winning seasons and fired their coach was Minnesota with Glen Mason and Arkansas with Houston Nutt.
 
Nutt got fired when he was banging his assistant, cheating on his wife and wrecked a Motor Cycle. Minnesota and Nebraska have both been cursed since they fired their winning coaches.
 
I do not know how to get it through your thick ass feeble brains. He ain’t getting fired. It’s not gonna happen. You can not like that statement. It’s fair. It’s ok. But unless you sign the paychecks, sit on the board, or have a fatass bank account to cut a check for a buyout, it ain’t happening. It’s just not. All of your bitching, complaining, feeling sorry for yourself, whatever it is.... DOES NOT MAKE ONE DAMN DIFFERENCE.

For the record... I realize the offense sucks, there aren’t any athletes, the game plan is horrible, we don’t develop quarterbacks, nepotism, bend but don’t break is broken, Kirk is overpaid, he doesn’t win enough, he doesn’t make changes, the audibles are terrible, it’s predictable, it’s boring, our AD is terrible, our skill position players are MAC level....blah blah blah. And I actually agree with most of those points.

There’s mention above of hoping for a huge scandal to break. Are you f-in kidding me? You dislike him that much that you want the football program to go through a scandal? It’s that bad for you to watch a boring offense?!?! What realm of reality are you in that a scandal that embarrasses the university, diverts even more talent, drops us to Rutgers level is a good idea just to get rid of a boring, predictable stubborn coach.

I just don’t understand. It’s like rooting for the President to fail because you hate him. Yes, he’s a jackass. But if he fails, then the country might fail and that hits everyone.

He’s just not getting fired. End of story. You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
 
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I know what thread you're referring to. It was already 40 posts deep and I didn't feel like reading all of them and then posting on it. The only examples I can think of when a school like Iowa was more or less having winning seasons and fired their coach was Minnesota with Glen Mason and Arkansas with Houston Nutt.


Nebraska called and said "Me".
 
I do not know how to get it through your thick ass feeble brains. He ain’t getting fired. It’s not gonna happen. You cannot like that statement. It’s fair. But unless you sign the paychecks, sit on the board, or have a fatass bank account to cut a check for a buyout, it ain’t happening. It’s just not. All of your bitching, complaining, feeling sorry for yourself, whatever it is.... DOES NOT MAKE ONE DAMN DIFFERENCE.

For the record... I realize the offense sucks, there aren’t any athletes, the game plan is horrible, we don’t develop quarterbacks, nepotism, bend but don’t break is broken, Kirk is overpaid, he doesn’t win enough, he doesn’t make changes, the audibles are terrible, it’s predictable, it’s boring, our AD is terrible, our skill position players are MAC level....blah blah blah. And I actually agree with most of those points.

There’s mention above of hoping for a huge scandal to break. Are you f-in kidding me? You dislike him that much that you want the football program to go through a scandal? It’s that bad for you to watch a boring offense?!?! What realm of reality are you in that a scandal that embarrasses the university, diverts even more talent, drops us to Rutgers level is a good idea just to get rid of a boring, predictable stubborn coach.

I just don’t understand. It’s like rooting for the President to fail because you hate him. Yes, he’s a jackass. But if he fails, then the country might fail and that hits everyone.

He’s just not getting fired. End of story. You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.


Thank you . Delivered again.
 
I do not know how to get it through your thick ass feeble brains. He ain’t getting fired. It’s not gonna happen. You cannot like that statement. It’s fair. But unless you sign the paychecks, sit on the board, or have a fatass bank account to cut a check for a buyout, it ain’t happening. It’s just not. All of your bitching, complaining, feeling sorry for yourself, whatever it is.... DOES NOT MAKE ONE DAMN DIFFERENCE.
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You hit the nail on the head. When I realized this fact, my stress level watching Iowa football went down immensely. It's not worth pulling my hair out over a team that, while I love it dearly, I have absolutely ZERO control or say over. So, I watch the games, enjoy it when they're good, find other things to occupy time with when they're not, because at the end of the day, it's a game, meant to be played and watched for entertainment purposes.
 
What scares the crap out of me is that if Kirk coaches 3-4 more years and then his little kid takes over as head coach, then just about all adults 30 & up will have to spend a large majority or about our entire adult lives of having a Ferentz as our head football coach at Iowa (if Brian could last a long time here)

Plus, there is the fear of getting a Mike Riley or Lovie Smith type of coach.
 
His buyout is over $22 million. The only way he’s leaving is if he retires. We can revisit this in a few years, but for now, we are stuck watching this offense.
 
What scares the crap out of me is that if Kirk coaches 3-4 more years and then his little kid takes over as head coach, then just about all adults 30 & up will have to spend a large majority or about our entire adult lives of having a Ferentz as our head football coach at Iowa (if Brian could last a long time here)

Plus, there is the fear of getting a Mike Riley or Lovie Smith type of coach.

I just can't fathom Brian taking over for Kirk IF Iowa continues to be mediocre. Then again Barta hasn't shown a lot to make me confident in him making good decisions.
 
I do not know how to get it through your thick ass feeble brains. He ain’t getting fired. It’s not gonna happen. You can not like that statement. It’s fair. It’s ok. But unless you sign the paychecks, sit on the board, or have a fatass bank account to cut a check for a buyout, it ain’t happening. It’s just not. All of your bitching, complaining, feeling sorry for yourself, whatever it is.... DOES NOT MAKE ONE DAMN DIFFERENCE.

For the record... I realize the offense sucks, there aren’t any athletes, the game plan is horrible, we don’t develop quarterbacks, nepotism, bend but don’t break is broken, Kirk is overpaid, he doesn’t win enough, he doesn’t make changes, the audibles are terrible, it’s predictable, it’s boring, our AD is terrible, our skill position players are MAC level....blah blah blah. And I actually agree with most of those points.

There’s mention above of hoping for a huge scandal to break. Are you f-in kidding me? You dislike him that much that you want the football program to go through a scandal? It’s that bad for you to watch a boring offense?!?! What realm of reality are you in that a scandal that embarrasses the university, diverts even more talent, drops us to Rutgers level is a good idea just to get rid of a boring, predictable stubborn coach.

I just don’t understand. It’s like rooting for the President to fail because you hate him. Yes, he’s a jackass. But if he fails, then the country might fail and that hits everyone.

He’s just not getting fired. End of story. You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

Bravo to you sir. If I could give you another 10 "likes" I would.

If it is possible let me add a cherry on top of your most eloquent and delicious sundae of a post.

At the end of the day this is a friggin' game of sports played by very young adults who don't know 99.9999% of us on this forum and coached by folks who don't know 99.99999999% of us and more than likely could not care less about message board rants.

Jon nailed it when he said on a previous post that some on here are quite unbalanced. And it sure seems to be the case with their obsession of how they think things should be.

I'm wondering if some in this forum could use something bigger and more important in their lives.
 

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