HawkeyeHypnosis
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http://www.btpowerhouse.com/2015/6/...l-incoming-freshman-isaiah-moss-2015-overview
good read here. SIAP
good read here. SIAP
What is Incoming Freshman Isaiah Moss Capable Of?
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ArvadaHawk
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It's unfortunate that Isaiah has some academics to clean up over the summer that will prevent him from playing in the PTL. But, I agree with the article. When he gets into B1G basketball condition, he could wind up 2nd team or above All B1G, when it's all said and done.
SteveGarvey
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Rating classes is really an art of oversimplification. Six 3 star kids to them means six average players who won't make an impact and no eye test is involved. In reality, the odds are that at least a couple of these kids will over-perform their ratings and be really good.
I believe I. Moss was offered by Hoiberg and Bruce Pearl. Nuff said.
So does that mean the 12 schools ranked ahead of them has at least 1 4 star? Seems really laxy to rank classes based mostly on the highest rated player in each class.
ArvadaHawk
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I've never fully understood how the ratings are figured. I now some services assign a point value so it's possible, for instance, for a 3* kid at Iowa to have 300 points and a 3* at MSU to have 325; that kind of thing.
Regardless, if you look at all 6 kids coming in and assume a normal/typical progression, they should all be very good and productive. I see Fleming being the type that, if he can gain that supreme shooters confidence, can be one of the best around. Williams is a more athletic RDM at the same stage and Moss a more athletic Williams. Hutton could be a monster athlete and Wagner will be more than a solid to plus post player. Dale Jones could be a Glenn Rice type.
I really dig this class.
RocknRollface
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The 16-17 season should be very interesting to see how it develops.
Very athletic team but almost everyone is the same size.
Hopefully Hutton and Wagner can be warriors on the boards. Uhl also seemed to grab allot of boards with his quick jumping.
Very athletic team but almost everyone is the same size.
Hopefully Hutton and Wagner can be warriors on the boards. Uhl also seemed to grab allot of boards with his quick jumping.
SteveGarvey
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I'm not sure Dale Jones counts in their ratings because he's JUCO. I do think they see some school incoming class with one 4 star and 2 three stars and assume the 4 star will make an impact while the supposed 5-6 three-star guys we have are just average recruits who won't be difference makers.
I really dig this class as well. It's gonna be a lot better than the 13th best class in the B1G I'd wager.
The problem is, on rivals.com, 3 star rating is about the lowest rating they give. Every recruit Fran has landed in the past 5 years has been a 3 star (other than Woody and Gessel). Even Lick's dreadful recruiting classes were loaded with 3 star recruits. Hell, Bawinkle and Cougill were even 3 stars. There are plenty of 4 stars out there. We just aren't landing them.
Some reports on Moss have him as having a high ceiling but still in the developmental category. Very athletic but initially more of a defensive contributor for Iowa than offensively. Some question as to his ability to handle the ball initially at the next level. Some believe a redshirt would be good for him considering our depth at his projected position as well as allowing him to get his feet on the ground academically the first year. There is some degree of risk at this point based on the recent academic work that yet needs to be completed.
I think you've got Moss mixed up with Hutton. Coach Francis recently said in an interview that Moss' offense in ready to contribute but his defense may need work.
Coach Francis would best know but this podcast panel saw his athleticism/quickness as an immediate contributor on D whereas offensive skills would require more of an adjustment period entering the next level as a true freshman. Let's just hope he makes it to campus as a first step.
None of the incoming players will know exactly what is expected from the offensively or defensively until they have been at Iowa for awhile. The players are talented and should pick the system up before conference play begins. It will be interesting to see if Moss redshirts to focus on the acedemics. Iowa has other guys that can play multiple positions coming in.
ArvadaHawk
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If Moss does RS (don't think he does unless academics is an issue) then Williams will be the beneficiary of getting minutes at the 2. Or, what would really be interesting is if both Moss and Williams RS'd. But, with Williams designated to play pg, I think he needs minutes in 2015 so he has experience for 2016.
You have to figure Jok and Uhl are more than capable of handling the 2 spot.
BILLYBOBSTEXAS
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He's capable of not making it to Iowa due to grades.
He's capable of going JUCO.
He's capable of being a star for the Hawks.
Who knows what he is capable of yet.
He's capable of going JUCO.
He's capable of being a star for the Hawks.
Who knows what he is capable of yet.
FranklinHawk
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Uhl at the 2? I would much more expect Jok, Sapp, and due to being hurt last year we don't really know what we have in Ellingson.
NEIChawk
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Moss is capable of being anything he wants to (when on campus), but before that happens he needs to sh*t or get off the pot regarding his academic issues...Is he capable of being another talented and gifted kid that might/could fall by the wayside? Absolutely, so I hope and pray that he understands the importance of this golden opportunity that is pretty much gift wrapped and presented to him. We need him and he needs us, and for me that's pretty much straight forward
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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BILLYBOBSTEXAS
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True that but still not nice OOTH!
