We're killing ourselves....

Ickehawk

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If Leshun Daniels touchdowns wouldn't have gotten called back, he'd be leading the B1G in total rushing yds (439), would be leading the B1G in yds. per carry (8.12) and would be 3rd in yds. per game (109.75). Our rushing total against Ratgers would've been close to 300 yds. And those runs starting the second halves of those 2 games probably would've been 'back breakers' in those games. I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......
 
The last 2 games I feel like it's a combination of we're simply not playing well, combined with shooting ourselves in the foot time after time with penalties and other mistakes.

I do wonder what the effect of losing Vandeberg will be. It has seemed at times like CJB has been zeroing in on him a little too much.
 
We have a Robyesque punter so you can run the ball and use play action and if you have to punt from your own 30 there is a very good chance the opponent will be starting from about their 20.
 
It just seems like CJB isn't running like he did last year either. Either designed runs or when has to scramble. He seems slower.
 
The last 2 games I feel like it's a combination of we're simply not playing well, combined with shooting ourselves in the foot time after time with penalties and other mistakes.

I do wonder what the effect of losing Vandeberg will be. It has seemed at times like CJB has been zeroing in on him a little too much.

The silver lining on losing Vandy is that most likely, someone will emerge as a really good receiver out of this. Maybe someone who we really don't expect to.
 
If Leshun Daniels touchdowns wouldn't have gotten called back, he'd be leading the B1G in total rushing yds (439), would be leading the B1G in yds. per carry (8.12) and would be 3rd in yds. per game (109.75). Our rushing total against Ratgers would've been close to 300 yds. And those runs starting the second halves of those 2 games probably would've been 'back breakers' in those games. I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......

At the risk of being simplistic, I agree, that, despite all the other OL breakdowns and miscomm's, it really comes down to those 2 plays being the difference between 4-0 and flirting with a top 10 ranking and the current perception of a very suspect 3-1 not worthy of the top 30. Two, stupid, plays! Game of inches ... and timing.

I'd also like to congratulate you on a solid, informative, conversation-starting post without having to tell us we're morons for not having thought of it .....or discovered it through film review ...... LOL!;)
 
OP hit the nail on the head here. I said to those watching the NDSU game with me, at the time of the play, that the game just shifted and Iowa was in real trouble. Same for Rutgers. Those were really huge plays in many, many ways.

Offense has to pound the rock — and avoid penalties.
 
If Leshun Daniels touchdowns wouldn't have gotten called back, he'd be leading the B1G in total rushing yds (439), would be leading the B1G in yds. per carry (8.12) and would be 3rd in yds. per game (109.75). Our rushing total against Ratgers would've been close to 300 yds. And those runs starting the second halves of those 2 games probably would've been 'back breakers' in those games. I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......


Yep, those two runs called back along with uncharacteristic penalties for an Iowa team is the difference. Now there's a question about the chop block rules/calls and who know what umpire group will call what pertaining to that. If the Iowa line is hesitent, that is not good.
 
If Leshun Daniels touchdowns wouldn't have gotten called back, he'd be leading the B1G in total rushing yds (439), would be leading the B1G in yds. per carry (8.12) and would be 3rd in yds. per game (109.75). Our rushing total against Ratgers would've been close to 300 yds. And those runs starting the second halves of those 2 games probably would've been 'back breakers' in those games. I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......

This is exactly right. I just re watched the Rutgers game, and we just continually shoot ourselves in the foot with penalties.

I really just think if they clean up the penalties and mental mistake this team is going to be fine (on offense that is). I am actually more concerned about our rush D. The coaches and players keep saying it is "communication", yet we are 4 games in, and are being gashed by poor teams in the run game. Hopefully they are right, but I don't know if I'm buying that "communication" reasoning.
 
If Leshun Daniels touchdowns wouldn't have gotten called back, he'd be leading the B1G in total rushing yds (439), would be leading the B1G in yds. per carry (8.12) and would be 3rd in yds. per game (109.75). Our rushing total against Ratgers would've been close to 300 yds. And those runs starting the second halves of those 2 games probably would've been 'back breakers' in those games. I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......

To expand further, this is why I am completely frustrated that we aren't running the ball more. Both back are capable of housing a D on each and every run. Why is Daniels only getting 13 carries a game and Wadley 9 carries a game? I get that we had a couple blow outs, but Toks and Michell only have 11 combined carries over 4 games, so that would be an additional 3 rushes per game. Daniels should get 20 rushes per game, and Wadley should be getting 15 carries a game. Those two should be carrying the ball 35 times a game, and getting 200 yards on the ground between the two of them.
 
To expand further, this is why I am completely frustrated that we aren't running the ball more. Both back are capable of housing a D on each and every run. Why is Daniels only getting 13 carries a game and Wadley 9 carries a game? I get that we had a couple blow outs, but Toks and Michell only have 11 combined carries over 4 games, so that would be an additional 3 rushes per game. Daniels should get 20 rushes per game, and Wadley should be getting 15 carries a game. Those two should be carrying the ball 35 times a game, and getting 200 yards on the ground between the two of them.

Wow. only 22 carries a game. Should be up to at least 35-40 as that would typically be half the plays. This would help control the time of possession and field position as well.
 
It can come off as hyper-technical and excuse-ridden explanations, but the missed execution on a just a few plays have really hurt. At Rutgers, in addition to the TD run called back, if CJB and LD didn't get their feet crossed up on that drive in the 2nd quarter, the play was well blocked and could have gone for a TD. Similarly, if Wadley had followed his blocking cues on a run in the third quarter, Croston doesn't hold, and Iowa keeps the drive going. Same for NDSU game. While football is a team game, it requires each of the 11 selfishly doing their individual job to maximize the chance at success. They are not that far off, but it can seem like they are based on the last 2 games.
 
I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......

This. We have two pretty darn good RBs, decent run blocking with Daniels and Welsh in there and a QB who threatens to burn teams deep.
 
OP really puts it into perspective. Both penalties were 'iffy' at best. Those don't get called, we are up 2 TDs in both games, maybe both end up 20+ pt victories, and we somehow feel all is 'good'. However, it still seems the whole team is 'off' this entire season, thus far.
 
Yup couldn’t agree more. Iowa should be running the ball more. The lack of touches for our two best players is baffling. The other thing I’ve noticed is I think Iowa has been running the fewest amount of offensive snaps/game too. Some of that is our Defense not getting off the field and the rest of it is the offense running the clock below 5 seconds every time on the play clock before snapping it. I think getting a tad more up tempo would/could not only help get more touches for our runners but also get CJ and offense into a better rhythm overall. So get the play in sooner lineup so CJ can do his pre snap reads with more time to make an adjustment if need be and go. It’ll help the O not have false starts. Just everything about it seems better. Get up to the line with 15-18 seconds instead of 10-13…. It’d make a world of difference I think…
 
Ickehawk said:
I think we just need to keep 'pounding the rock' and wear these teams down and open up 'play action'.......


This. We have two pretty darn good RBs, decent run blocking with Daniels and Welsh in there and a QB who threatens to burn teams deep.


In addition, if have success running then CJ will be able to do play action a bit more which will help him stay upright more.
 
At the risk of being simplistic, I agree, that, despite all the other OL breakdowns and miscomm's, it really comes down to those 2 plays being the difference between 4-0 and flirting with a top 10 ranking and the current perception of a very suspect 3-1 not worthy of the top 30. Two, stupid, plays! Game of inches ... and timing.

I'd also like to congratulate you on a solid, informative, conversation-starting post without having to tell us we're morons for not having thought of it .....or discovered it through film review ...... LOL!;)

You need to study the butterfly effect before making that post. There is a fallacy belief that altering history allows for a certain outcome. It's possible, but there are no guarantees.
 

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