Vandeburg vs Rudock

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Jake already has more rushing yards than JV had in his entire career. And he is 2 passing td's away from tying him as a senior. I think Jake "gets it". I don't believe James ever did except for 3-4 games over his whole career.

I for one am optimistic for the future. Go Hawks!



P.S. now if Ferentz would start Hamilton over CJF we would be set. Just sayin. Some players get it some don't. #Fact
 


In this offense, I'll take Rudock in a heartbeat. I also like Rudock's upside long-term, but I don't think your assertion that James didn't "get it except for 3-4 games over his whole career" is untrue/unfair. His 2012 season was JC-esque, but if you look at his performance in 2011, most teams in the Big 10 would have taken that production in a heartbeat.
 




Well JV sure didnt "get it" during away games! Im not sure what his away record was but it couldnt be anything other than awful.
 






I'm not allowed to say sucks on this website so I'll say this.

One resembles a vaccum cleaner or a talented prostitute. One resembles a quarterback.
 






Vandy came up in KoK's system. His Jr year was a better representation of his best work. but that doesn't fit the narrative here does it.
 


I think Vandeberg was only expected to Greyshirt this year, but he caught a pass in the Missouri State game, and that Haluska kid seemed to be in the game against Western Michigan. They say he catches everything thrown to him, so we could see him sometime later if other kids pick up injuries or suspensions.
 


rudock looks like he just has a lot more calmness and poise.. better feel for the game.

Now that being said he could turn into suck when the conference season starts... so its a big early to say.

To quote Dennis Green - "you want to crown his a$$ ... crown him!"
 




People need to give JVB a break. You think our receivers have had issues with drops this year (10 or so), well they led the B10 last year all year last year. It wasn't just the drops, it was the drops at critical points. Couple that with the fact that half the time, they ran the wrong route or weren't where the QB was expecting them to be (according to the coaches). That goes a long way in destroying a QB's confidence. People should look at JVB's junior year (first year starting) and cut the guy some slack.

That being said, Rudock has already shown calmness in the pocket, escapability, and the ability to extend play way beyond what JVB could do. It's uncanny how much in four games he is improving this aspect of his game. Rudock is going to be very good...I'm sure there will be growing pains in the B10 (at OSU), but the future is bright at QB for Iowa.
 


thetrza said:
I think Vandeberg was only expected to Greyshirt this year, but he caught a pass in the Missouri State game, and that Haluska kid seemed to be in the game against Western Michigan. They say he catches everything thrown to him, so we could see him sometime later if other kids pick up injuries or suspensions.
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He caught 2 back to back for 17 yards. Was surprised we didn't see him in WM game.
 


One throws to the other they are not in competition. I am not sure what is limiting Vandeberg's playing time so much. It is definitely not his catching ability. It might have to do with blocking technique or something like that.
 


Hawknick said:
One throws to the other they are not in competition. I am not sure what is limiting Vandeberg's playing time so much. It is definitely not his catching ability. It might have to do with blocking technique or something like that.
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It might not even be his blocking technique, it may just be that he lacks the necessary size to be an effective blocker.
 






Bigtenchamp said:
rudock looks like he just has a lot more calmness and poise.. better feel for the game.

Now that being said he could turn into suck when the conference season starts... so its a big early to say.

To quote Dennis Green - "you want to crown his a$$ ... crown him!"
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Rudock has better footwork, has a quicker release, better poise in the pocket and has better vision. It's still early but he looks much better than JVB.
 


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