Two-Deep for PSU

[hawkfan2679]

The word we got last week was basically Merriweather had been passed by Koerner, and Brents was not at 100%.

I liked what I saw out of Merriweather, albeit against inferior competition, in week 1. He essentially lost his starting spot due to injury, yes? I also really liked what Brents brought to the table last year, so it was surprising to see him on the 2 line (but makes more sense if he is still dinged).

 

[Caddy]

Goodson listed 3rd. What other coaching staff in the world would list Goodson 3rd.

What a fing joke. This is a damn good team being totally ruined by piss poor coaching. Thank goodness for Phill Parker.

This is a good defensive team. Not a good all around team. Our offense is brutal. Not other coaching staff would have Goodson out of the game other than to give him a breather, and on obvious downs where we needed a blocker in the backfield, but even then he should be in the slot or split out.

 

[haydensly]

Stanley does have a redshirt available, he played a few snaps as a true freshman (which is a moot point since he’s out of eligibility now).

If the current rules that were in place today were there when he was a freshman he would be a redshirt junior right now.

Guffus to answer your question no you cannot use a redshirt after you’ve already used up your 4 years of eligibility.

I think you meant that Stanley does not have a redshirt available. He used a year of eligibility his Freshman year because the four-game rule was not in effect yet. So this is his fourth, and final, year of eligibility.

 

[Motigerhawk]

I think you meant that Stanley does not have a redshirt available. He used a year of eligibility his Freshman year because the four-game rule was not in effect yet. So this is his fourth, and final, year of eligibility.

And there is a bright spot to the season.

 

[NikeHawk21]

I think you meant that Stanley does not have a redshirt available. He used a year of eligibility his Freshman year because the four-game rule was not in effect yet. So this is his fourth, and final, year of eligibility.

Correct... but he could have redshirted this year aka he had a redshirt available or in other words he’s never redshirted. Kirk played him a few snaps as a true freshman.

 

[RobHowe]

Brents played special teams on Saturday. When he was out of the game, he was riding the stationary bike pretty much nonstop. He was wearing a large brace on his right knee.

 

[eledmonster]

Honestly they should’ve benched Alaric and gone back to the orientation they had with Wirfs at LT in the fourth quarter Saturday. If he continues to struggle mightily, the staff needs to find something that works.

I concur. I was a bit dubious of Jackson basically getting his first serious action of the year against Michigan's edge rushers. Seemed a really tall order and it appears that was correct.

 

[N8theGr8]

And there is a bright spot to the season.

It's silly to argue over since he's gone anyway, but Stanley is not the reason we lost on Saturday. Sure 3 INTs are downright awful, but find me a QB anywhere that gets 260 yards passing while being sacked EIGHT TIMES. This, mind you, is a quarterback that has only been sacked an average of 1 time per game over his 3 year career. Our abysmal line play is the start and end of why we lost on Saturday. Stanley is a good enough QB to get us 10+ wins this year if you keep him clean.

Pretty sad for a coaching staff that has not one, not two, but three current or former offensive line coaches to have the line playing this poorly. Especially given that we have 2 future NFL tackles, a freshman all-american at center, and a rotation of seniors/upperclassmen at the guard spots. Polasek has had 2 and 1/3 seasons on the job now and he's not getting it done. If our OLine doesn't make a dramatic turnaround, he needs to be shown the door and Kirk and Brian need to take a long hard look in the mirror as to why OLine U is getting destroyed in the trenches when it matters.

 

[earlkoppelman]

I never noticed they had ISM as punt returner. Why do they never put him in or have two guys back there to mix it up.

I never noticed they had ISM as punt returner. Why do they never put him in or have two guys back there to mix it up.

Both back! ISM game- changing returner.

 

[N8theGr8]

I concur. I was a bit dubious of Jackson basically getting his first serious action of the year against Michigan's edge rushers. Seemed a really tall order and it appears that was correct.

My only explanation for this is that we need Jackson back at some point and he really wasn't ready to go a week earlier. Therefore, you either go without him for Michigan AND Penn State, or you try to work him in at some point. But I agree that it should have been managed better. He should have been alternating series to get his feet wet and taken out in favor of a configuration that does work.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Brents played special teams on Saturday. When he was out of the game, he was riding the stationary bike pretty much nonstop. He was wearing a large brace on his right knee.

That being the case I find it kind of stupid that he even played. Roberts was in on the sub packages on 3rd and longs. If he’s wearing a knee brace and he’s not going to help us outside of special teams we should have considered holding him out a few more games with eyes on a potential four game redshirt.

 

[Jonrn]

That being the case I find it kind of stupid that he even played. Roberts was in on the sub packages on 3rd and longs. If he’s wearing a knee brace and he’s not going to help us outside of special teams we should have considered holding him out a few more games with eyes on a potential four game redshirt.[/QUOTE
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I agree with you in substance, but a 19-20 year old kid wants to play now when given the option. Brents has NFL potential and I’m sure he wants to be in the game, putting reps on film ASAP to get the payday sooner. Football players have a short shelf life and I don’t blame them for wanting to get as much as quick as possible.

if the coaches and Brents feel he can contribute come late October early November? It’s go time.

 

[NikeHawk21]

It's silly to argue over since he's gone anyway, but Stanley is not the reason we lost on Saturday. Sure 3 INTs are downright awful, but find me a QB anywhere that gets 260 yards passing while being sacked EIGHT TIMES. This, mind you, is a quarterback that has only been sacked an average of 1 time per game over his 3 year career. Our abysmal line play is the start and end of why we lost on Saturday. Stanley is a good enough QB to get us 10+ wins this year if you keep him clean.

Pretty sad for a coaching staff that has not one, not two, but three current or former offensive line coaches to have the line playing this poorly. Especially given that we have 2 future NFL tackles, a freshman all-american at center, and a rotation of seniors/upperclassmen at the guard spots. Polasek has had 2 and 1/3 seasons on the job now and he's not getting it done. If our OLine doesn't make a dramatic turnaround, he needs to be shown the door and Kirk and Brian need to take a long hard look in the mirror as to why OLine U is getting destroyed in the trenches when it matters.

It wasn’t any one thing. The line was bad but BF’s play calling absolutely put them in a position to fail. When you abandon the run game the defense can pin their ears back and get after the QB and not have to worry about maintaining their gaps on run. That makes life difficult for the Oline.

BF was bad, Oline was bad, Stanley was pretty bad, Sargent fumbling was bad. Flush it and move on.

Pinning the blame entirely on the offensive line is not fair in my opinion.

 

[N8theGr8]

It wasn’t any one thing. The line was bad but BF’s play calling absolutely put them in a position to fail. When you abandon the run game the defense can pin their ears back and get after the QB and not have to worry about maintaining their gaps on run. That makes life difficult for the Oline.

BF was bad, Oline was bad, Stanley was pretty bad, Sargent fumbling was bad. Flush it and move on.

Pinning the blame entirely on the offensive line is not fair in my opinion.

Agree to disagree, it might be a slight exaggeration to blame it all on the OLine, especially given BF's play calling and Sargent's bad day, but you have to abandon the run when you're facing 1st and 30 due to holding penalties on the line. The same line that gave up 8 sacks. There were more opportunities to run it, especially given the success Young was having early in the 3rd quarter. But it's a tough call on 3rd and 3 to run it when your line has been getting shredded all game.

Also, I'll put it out there that Stanley's interceptions were nowhere near as bad as you might think and 2 out of 3 were in situations I'd want him to be forcing it. His first one was bad as he didn't recognize the coverage on Tracy and was hurried into a bad throw that never had a chance. The second one he was again pressured but had a decent enough throw despite being hurried into single coverage that it should have been at worst a 50/50 ball to Tracy, but never an interception, except Tracy allowed himself to be pushed off his path and the DB ran his route for him. Next year, or even later on this season, that will be a completion inside the 5 yard line. Finally, the last one, he was either going to take a sack or give it a chance forcing it on 4th down with no one open.

I do agree it should be flushed and the OLine should be significantly better after being humbled, but it's completely okay to single out a group and say it's mostly their fault. Ask yourself, if Stanley hadn't been sacked 8 times and hurried countless more, would he have thrown 3 picks? Also, as I mentioned in another post, I don't think it's the OLine's fault that they played so poorly. I think you can point a finger at the coaches, specifically Polasek, for not having them ready.

 

[tksirius]

Current players should be grandfathered into the 4 game RS rule. Stanley should hire Oliver's lawyer and petition the NCAA.

 

[hawkeye23]

My only explanation for this is that we need Jackson back at some point and he really wasn't ready to go a week earlier. Therefore, you either go without him for Michigan AND Penn State, or you try to work him in at some point. But I agree that it should have been managed better. He should have been alternating series to get his feet wet and taken out in favor of a configuration that does work.

While he was healthy enough to play, I agree he should have been sprinkled in to get back up to speed. In one game, didn't we rotate 10-11 OL? Why wasn't that done in this one given that there were so many issues? Not like it could have gone a whole lot worse....Also guessing he really wanted to play a lot given it was in his home state.

 

[NikeHawk21]

Agree to disagree, it might be a slight exaggeration to blame it all on the OLine, especially given BF's play calling and Sargent's bad day, but you have to abandon the run when you're facing 1st and 30 due to holding penalties on the line. The same line that gave up 8 sacks. There were more opportunities to run it, especially given the success Young was having early in the 3rd quarter. But it's a tough call on 3rd and 3 to run it when your line has been getting shredded all game.

Also, I'll put it out there that Stanley's interceptions were nowhere near as bad as you might think and 2 out of 3 were in situations I'd want him to be forcing it. His first one was bad as he didn't recognize the coverage on Tracy and was hurried into a bad throw that never had a chance. The second one he was again pressured but had a decent enough throw despite being hurried into single coverage that it should have been at worst a 50/50 ball to Tracy, but never an interception, except Tracy allowed himself to be pushed off his path and the DB ran his route for him. Next year, or even later on this season, that will be a completion inside the 5 yard line. Finally, the last one, he was either going to take a sack or give it a chance forcing it on 4th down with no one open.

I do agree it should be flushed and the OLine should be significantly better after being humbled, but it's completely okay to single out a group and say it's mostly their fault. Ask yourself, if Stanley hadn't been sacked 8 times and hurried countless more, would he have thrown 3 picks? Also, as I mentioned in another post, I don't think it's the OLine's fault that they played so poorly. I think you can point a finger at the coaches, specifically Polasek, for not having them ready.

You can blame whoever you’d like I guess, to me it wasn’t entirely on the offensive line. Again I personably pin more of the blame on BF abandoning the run.

I’d have to go back and look at some of the sacks. I know one Stanley was rolling out and had every opportunity to throw the ball away but took the sack for some reason. Seems like a few others came in those last few drives when Michigan knew we were throwing.

I do agree on Stanley’s picks not being super bad. The first one was really bad, the second was a glorified punt (should not be throwing fades to 5’11 slot WRs though), and the last one Michigan actually lost net field position by catching it.

Hopefully they can right the ship this week against a very good Penn State defense.

 

[okeefe4prez]

When we played tOSU in 2017 BF called a hell of a game.

He called a good game, but we got a major assist by OSU rolling out a vanilla defense and Bosa getting himself disqualified for targeting. The other element was the Iowa guys executed in a way I have never seen before in my life.

 

[BVHawk95]

He called a good game, but we got a major assist by OSU rolling out a vanilla defense and Bosa getting himself disqualified for targeting. The other element was the Iowa guys executed in a way I have never seen before in my life.

Bosa really wasn't a factor in the first half of that game. Jackson and Wirfs pretty much handled him that day.

 

[hawkeyes87]

When we played tOSU in 2017 BF called a hell of a game. Hopefully that happens again!

He called a good game, but we got a major assist by OSU rolling out a vanilla defense

Yes, hopefully it happens again.

But, in '17 Oklahoma had already beaten OSU, and shown that their lb's were pretty weak in coverage, so the blueprint was there already.

And the vanilla defense thing sealed the deal.​