Trump supporters, how do you square this?

[PCHawk]

https://x.com/beinlibertarian/status/1896796550006972635?t=-Jv8II8LmKVzxD_LMsRgsg&s=19

Old TV show talking about Measles vs new TV show.

 

[kicker22]

Have you ever seen the stats of transgenders murdered? They're lower than the stats of the entire population and almost all of them that have been killed are from someone they knew. Are they really attacked more than everyone else? And if so, why is everyone and their brother falling over each other to join the club? The numbers of people who label themselves as transgender nowadays doesn't jive with them being treated poorly.

There's a huge gap between "getting attacked" and getting murdered. It could be verbal, bullied, it doesn't always have to be based on end result. I graduated in the late 90's before bullying was really a thing and while fights weren't necessarily uncommon I'd say its safe to say that males who were perceived to be more feminine got got harassed and picked attacked (verbally and physically) without anyone dying. But just because no one died that doesn't mean it wasn't going on or impacting their lives.

 

[Hay Man]

Yes the left leaning media says to hate him and the right leaning media says to love him. The truth is he's the exact same guy as he was when the left loved him. Media on the right tell the story that Musk is risking everything to help the country. Media on the left say Musk is just doing what he's doing to steal people's info and get richer. People's opinion on Musk is directly related to which story they believe. If you know him personally so you've formed your opinion that way then I apologize.

I don't know him personally, but making an assumption of how everyone feels about someone else without knowing anything about those people is getting old. You love to say that the left just believes whatever they're being told about Musk and tRump. I didn't love Elon and then all of a sudden hate him just because he's right wing now.

I assume you think for yourself, so maybe others on here think for themselves too and can form their own opinions without someone telling them what to think.

 

[PCHawk]

I agree, but its a shame it has to centered around party affiliation with most people. I think the individual has to come first, then the party. Too many blinders go up when the first thing that's given away is whether they're red or blue. Honestly I'd love to see an election where party association wasn't listed on the ballot. Sure it might catch people off guard, but that's when they should be doing their homework rather than putting all their loyalty behind a party when they know nothing about the individual.

It would be so much better that way.

 

[PCHawk]

Do you know who the AFD is in Germany? I'm guessing not.

Yes. It's already been talked about in this thread even.

 

[PCHawk]

The point is (shouting for the dumb kids in the back) is that he's inside the government and is likely circumventing any normal appropriations process. Man people are dumb and gullible.

If you could personally profit Billions from influencing a decision.... would you? This is why some of this is in front of the Supreme Court. Congress appropriates funding. Can you not see the massive potential for corruption here, or are you so on that Musky jock strap that you're blind?

We've already talked about that possibility in this thread also and I do agree it's definitely a possibility. But remember he's already killing his stocks by doing what he's doing so it might not even be a net gain. Also remember he is very confident he has a superior product so weaseling his way into government to pimp a product that is already so good it will pimp itself without him doesn't seem worth it.

Imagine arguing in the year 2000 that the inventor of the internet needed to infiltrate the government to push his product. The obvious counterpoint would be the same. The internet was always going to be huge anyway. Just like starlink will be huge either way.

 

[PCHawk]

There's a huge gap between "getting attacked" and getting murdered. It could be verbal, bullied, it doesn't always have to be based on end result. I graduated in the late 90's before bullying was really a thing and while fights weren't necessarily uncommon I'd say its safe to say that males who were perceived to be more feminine got got harassed and picked attacked (verbally and physically) without anyone dying. But just because no one died that doesn't mean it wasn't going on or impacting their lives.

Fair point. I have had a lot of young people work for me over the years and have had bullying conversations a lot. A small town kid said bullying isn't even really a thing anymore. I big tow kid said there are "transgenders" everywhere and it's completely accepted. Small sample size but that's all I got.

One thing I want to make clear. I'm probably equally sympathetic to all classes of people as anyone else here (or close to it). I just have different thoughts on how to make it better. People confuse differening opinions with lack of compassion (its that way with school shootings too).

 

[PCHawk]

I don't know him personally, but making an assumption of how everyone feels about someone else without knowing anything about those people is getting old. You love to say that the left just believes whatever they're being told about Musk and tRump. I didn't love Elon and then all of a sudden hate him just because he's right wing now.

I assume you think for yourself, so maybe others on here think for themselves too and can form their own opinions without someone telling them what to think.

Ok but just so you understand, me saying that is a general statement that is true on both sides. It doesn't mean it's true for every person. Have you ever said "these people listening to fox news" or "you're brainwashed by X"?

 

[thedukeofearl]

elon probably could survive on a mere billion

His ego might take a hit, but I am not going to worry about his tesla sales going downhill

I could do quite well on a fraction of a billion, even just a mere million

 

[thedukeofearl]

Perhaps a bit of perspective

How long would it take to count to a million by ones

16,667 minutes, 278 hours, or 12 days

Counting to one billion would take a trifle longer

If you want to count to a billion manually, it would take over 100 years. However, an online calculator can help you calculate 1 billion counts and easily perform the conversion as well, in a matter of seconds. If you want to know how long it would take to count to a billion manually, you can divide the total number of seconds it would take to count to a billion by the number of seconds in a year.