Time for a change

[Thawk25]

This is funny I bet last year you were talking about how great kf was the greatest and kok was the best as well. 1 average season and people are acting like Nebraska did after they fired there coach after they won the alamo bowl. How many years did it take for Nebraska get back to where they were?

We are not going to be in contention for the big ten championship every year. This is not Ohio State.

 

[9YRPLAN]

i dont want KF to leave, i just want him to try.

 

[Oldhawki]

My job description has not changed in the last 20 years but the way that I go about doing it has evolved over and over and I think that's all that fans are asking for, if it don't work, be it for personel reasons, injuries, whatever, CHANGE something rather than go down with the ship every week. Tired of hearing how we just didn't make enough plays, getting to be a tired excuse. Against Ohio State is one thing, but the worst team in the Big 10, it won't cut it.

 

[greghammel]

Well... Kirk Ferentz is a leader and someone you want as the head coach. Having said that... he is paid to win football games and failed this year. The loss of our Defensive Coordinator Norm Parker hurt badly, and we don't even know if he will be back.
I would look at Dave Doeren of Wisconsin... he has done well every place he has been. With little chance at ever passing over Bielema for the head coaching job, perhaps he would be interested in Iowa? (yes, I am liking the Badger coaches due to same style, better results at the moment). If not Doeren, then what about Kevin Cosgrove? I know he moves around quite a bit and that is reason for concern, but his experience from working for Illinois, Wisconsin, and Nebraska and Minnesota is a benefit. I would hope KF would call Barry Alvarez and ask a bit about him first and see what he has to say, as I get the feeling something isn't exactly right with him off the field?

On offense, KoK is having problems, and the inability to coach a two minute offense or utilize clock mgmt is too much. I think Ferentz has to at least look around and I wish Iowa would go after Paul Chryst of Wisconsin, but doubt he would leave as he seems to be a die-hard Badger AND/OR offer Bryan Harsin of Boise St. He isn't going to move up at Boise and Iowa/Big Ten might be a move he is interested in? Lastly, that redheaded fella (Mike McQueary) that looks like he wants to kill JoePa on the sidelines of the Penn State games... he seems like someone who would run a great offense for KF?
You could always find another job on the team for KoK... but I think it is time to at least look at replacements. This would give Iowa a couple guys we could look at for a future head coach when KF decides to retire or move on similar to what Fry did for us. KF isn't building much of a coaching tree like Fry did.

 

[Billso]

Fire Lou Piniella!

 

[SalukiJD]

It's people like you why we are mediocre. You accept average. You probably got all C's in school, eh?

Actually, I got B's...in law school, dimwit troll.

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

Hmmm ... well, hold onto that thought that Kirk is going anywhere, anytime soon. Yes, this season was a disappointment. An absolute disappointment. You can't be 10-2 every season. Even the giants of college football have bad seasons (i.e. Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame). Kirk is our coach today. He will be our coach tomorrow and he will be our coach next season ... Kirk is not going anywhere, unless he decides to make a change.

It was a bad season. Simple as that. It was frustrating to see us underperform, etc. I am just as frustrated as everyone else on this board. But to even suggest we need a coaching change did make me laugh inside when I read your post. Maybe a very sad reflection on society and the "what have you done for me lately" mentality that exists.

Now if Kirk put together three 6-6 seasons then maybe the topic could be approached ... But 8-4, 11-2 and 7-5 does not necessarily call for a changing of the guard. Sloowwwww down there partner ...

 

[CFHawk]

I can see that your a Cubs fan, it all makes sense now. I bet you think they are good too! Go away and be a clone.

Lets not bring my Cubs into this.

 

[SalukiJD]

Hmmm ... well, hold onto that thought that Kirk is going anywhere, anytime soon. Yes, this season was a disappointment. An absolute disappointment. You can't be 10-2 every season. Even the giants of college football have bad seasons (i.e. Texas, Michigan, Notre Dame). Kirk is our coach today. He will be our coach tomorrow and he will be our coach next season ... Kirk is not going anywhere, unless he decides to make a change.

It was a bad season. Simple as that. It was frustrating to see us underperform, etc. I am just as frustrated as everyone else on this board. But to even suggest we need a coaching change did make me laugh inside when I read your post. Maybe a very sad reflection on society and the "what have you done for me lately" mentality that exists.

Now if Kirk put together three 6-6 seasons then maybe the topic could be approached ... But 8-4, 11-2 and 7-5 does not necessarily call for a changing of the guard. Sloowwwww down there partner ...

I agree we shouldn't be talking about sacking KF although KOK is another story. Also, although I love what Norm has done on D and respect his fight with diabetes, having a part time D coordinator isn't going to cut it. And what of the conditioning? Doyle has been praised in the past, but why is the Iowa D so gassed in the 4th? Part of that, I understand, falls on KOK not keeping the O on the field long enough, but the D did seem to be gassed quite a bit this year.

 

[FrozenMadman]

My job description has not changed in the last 20 years but the way that I go about doing it has evolved over and over and I think that's all that fans are asking for, if it don't work, be it for personel reasons, injuries, whatever, CHANGE something rather than go down with the ship every week. Tired of hearing how we just didn't make enough plays, getting to be a tired excuse. Against Ohio State is one thing, but the worst team in the Big 10, it won't cut it.

You sir, are 100% correct. One has to grow and change in their job role over time. Learn and adapt. KF appears, given the last four games, to be too stubborn, or, perhaps I should say, too dumb to do either.

Its time for him to get a major update of his job skills. If not, Iowa football is in deep guano.

 

[seepig]

Well... Kirk Ferentz is a leader and someone you want as the head coach. Having said that... he is paid to win football games and failed this year. The loss of our Defensive Coordinator Norm Parker hurt badly, and we don't even know if he will be back.
I would look at Dave Doeren of Wisconsin... he has done well every place he has been. With little chance at ever passing over Bielema for the head coaching job, perhaps he would be interested in Iowa? (yes, I am liking the Badger coaches due to same style, better results at the moment). If not Doeren, then what about Kevin Cosgrove? I know he moves around quite a bit and that is reason for concern, but his experience from working for Illinois, Wisconsin, and Nebraska and Minnesota is a benefit. I would hope KF would call Barry Alvarez and ask a bit about him first and see what he has to say, as I get the feeling something isn't exactly right with him off the field?

On offense, KoK is having problems, and the inability to coach a two minute offense or utilize clock mgmt is too much. I think Ferentz has to at least look around and I wish Iowa would go after Paul Chryst of Wisconsin, but doubt he would leave as he seems to be a die-hard Badger AND/OR offer Bryan Harsin of Boise St. He isn't going to move up at Boise and Iowa/Big Ten might be a move he is interested in? Lastly, that redheaded fella (Mike McQueary) that looks like he wants to kill JoePa on the sidelines of the Penn State games... he seems like someone who would run a great offense for KF?
You could always find another job on the team for KoK... but I think it is time to at least look at replacements. This would give Iowa a couple guys we could look at for a future head coach when KF decides to retire or move on similar to what Fry did for us. KF isn't building much of a coaching tree like Fry did.

ghammel you obviously don't watch much football suggesting that COSGROVE replace Norm that is an embarrassment to even suggest it. Cosgrove is why Callahan lost his job at Nebraska after Kansas posted 80 points against his D and that was with 5 star recruits playing in it.

 

[H8IAST8]

I agree we shouldn't be talking about sacking KF although KOK is another story. Also, although I love what Norm has done on D and respect his fight with diabetes, having a part time D coordinator isn't going to cut it. And what of the conditioning? Doyle has been praised in the past, but why is the Iowa D so gassed in the 4th? Part of that, I understand, falls on KOK not keeping the O on the field long enough, but the D did seem to be gassed quite a bit this year.

I agree with these statements, i just dont see why KOK is taking the blame for THIS game.

 

[seepig]

It's a culmination of his lack of ingenuity...and his deer caught in the headlights panic at the end of games this year. How about delay of game calls because he still can't get plays in on time...after being here 12 years. Need I say more.

 

[DesMoinesHawki]

I do think something needs to change on offense and defense. The reason why lesser coaches are beating us is because we are simply predictable. We don't do anything that other coaches have not already planned for. When opposing coaches review our game film ... our film from last week is no different than our game film from five years ago.

We have always prided ourselves on defense of just lining up and slugging it out. No blitzes ... vanilla defense ...

I think it didn't help we have the smallest offensive line in the conference. We did lose some key players, etc., but that aside, this team did underperform. Our offense is way too predictable and I think that is where I would start first.

 

[Sidecarcoach]

A big part of me just wants to see us contemporize our offensive and defensive schemes - some spread on O and blitzing on D. And then I look at the three teams that tied for the B10 title and they are a lot like the Hawks. So, maybe the only thing I need to see change is my attitude and mood.

 

[aaronzuriel]

dumb *** dobhawk or ever you are...

You are NOT going to get a Big Ten or more Championship in any given (your) year. Tell us who you want to coach?

 

[seepig]

No we are NOT going to win another Big 10 championship with the way things are now.

 

[okeefe4prez]

And then I look at the three teams that tied for the B10 title and they are a lot like the Hawks.

No they don't. Bielema throttles teams like Indiana. He has been there a third as long as Ferentz has been at Iowa and he has TWO eleven win regular seasons compared to Ferentz's goose egg in that category. Bielema runs things like fake punts in close road games that will determine whether his team has a shot at Pasadena. Ferentz takes a freaking knee in close road games to try to win it in overtime.

Tressel - Tressel has better talent than Iowa - they are nothing like the Hawks. Tressel is the father of the Iowa beating game plan of putting your best receiver in the slot and then watching Iowa's LBs get torched by it and yet the staff continue to roll out the same game plan every week of every year.

Dantonio - Dantonio plays guys who are 48 hours out of jail. He's kind of greasy, but with Rodriguez recruiting everywhere but Michigan, Dantonio is sitting on a stock pile of really good young players up there, some of whom he wasn't scared to play even during a title run this year. Dantonio will also run trick plays and blitz when the game is on the line. Did anyone see last year's MSU-Iowa game? Ferentz just drops his QB and runs the same offense he ran all game in the waning moments of a game.

 

[OldtownHawkFan]

With the changes coming to the B10 next year, there will be no Co-B10 champ stuff anymore. KF, coaching staff and current schemes never got Iowa to the Rose Bowl and without changes in coaching staff/schemes, Iowa will never win a B10 championship in the future.

Every year it is the same schemes and the same issues we as fans has seem for the past 7 years now. Even in 2009, with less then 2 minutes let at OSU, coaching staff decided not to run the two-minute drill to try to win the B10 title. They used the excuse that Vandy was a freshman but he was throwing the ball well. I wonder if the coaching staff knew they couldn't execute a 2-minute drill to save their lives and instead of being exposed again for their shortcomings, decided to go to OT.

It is going to be more difficult in the future to win the B10. The same schemes and/or coaching staff will need to change or 7 to 8 wins will be the norm.