Tiger on golfers lifting

masoncityhawkeye said:
Yeah 9yr. I have met him a few times. A lot nicer then I expected, unlike Phil who is a complete DB. He was much smaller then I expected and I am 6'3 so I say he is closer to 6 ft if that
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I'd like to hear what Phil did to give you that impression. Going to PGA tournaments over the last 20 years I have the opposite opinion of Phil and Tiger.
 
Hawksd said:
I'd like to hear what Phil did to give you that impression. Going to PGA tournaments over the last 20 years I have the opposite opinion of Phil and Tiger.
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That's on the course, and in front of the cameras. I believe it's the opponent in Tin Cup that was inspired by Phil: Nice guy when the cameras are watching, total dick otherwise. I'll grant that Phil has been there for his wife, but I know plenty of people who would and have done just about anything for their families, and they're still ***holes to most everyone else.

I've never met Phil, but that's basically what I've heard about him for years.
 
tm3308 said:
That's on the course, and in front of the cameras. I believe it's the opponent in Tin Cup that was inspired by Phil: Nice guy when the cameras are watching, total dick otherwise. I'll grant that Phil has been there for his wife, but I know plenty of people who would and have done just about anything for their families, and they're still ***holes to most everyone else.

I've never met Phil, but that's basically what I've heard about him for years.
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Have you ever heard about Tiger off the course? Give me an example of what you've been hearing about Phil over the years.
 
SD, you were watching the tournament. I was behind the scenes and ran a Tiger woods foundation clinic. Tin cup is a good comparison. Phil bitched at his room (at Disney event for reference) and complained he didn't get enough theme park tickets. As if he couldn't afford to buy them. Also wanted another car so his wife Amy could have one who is equally as Bitchy.
Trust me I was disappointed as before then I was a huge Phil fan
Where as Tiger is down to earth behind the scenes and friendly.
 
Hawksd said:
Have you ever heard about Tiger off the course? Give me an example of what you've been hearing about Phil over the years.
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I've never heard of any personal experiences with Tiger, in regards to whether or not he's an ******* to people. I don't have an example of Phil, either. I just said that's what I've heard over the years. I haven't gathered examples and made that interpretation. I've just heard a lot of people say his nice guy facade is just for the cameras.
 
masoncityhawkeye said:
SD, you were watching the tournament. I was behind the scenes and ran a Tiger woods foundation clinic. Tin cup is a good comparison. Phil bitched at his room (at Disney event for reference) and complained he didn't get enough theme park tickets. As if he couldn't afford to buy them. Also wanted another car so his wife Amy could have one who is equally as Bitchy.
Trust me I was disappointed as before then I was a huge Phil fan
Where as Tiger is down to earth behind the scenes and friendly.
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I have heard the same thing about Phil, although I have never met him. He did make a big ordeal out of the picture of him in his Masters jacket at Dunkin Donuts though. Although I kind of understand what his problem was. Should have rolled it into another sponsorship and more money for him, but that's beside the point.
I have met Tiger once, it was a while ago at the 2000 or 2001 old Western Open at Cog Hill in Chicagoland and he was very friendly. Hung out for a long time after his round, met with a bunch of fans and signed a bunch of autographs and was generally very nice. Now that was a long time ago in Tiger's life. I cannot atest to what he is like now. I also do know that Phil is not nearly as engaging with fans and nor as willing to sign autographs as Tiger was.
 
I've heard Zach Johnson is a dick on the course but great off the course. On the course these guys are trying to win, I don't have a problem with them being intense. Don't have to be dicks, but intense is what they should be.
 
tm3308 said:
I like it better clean. I'm more of a smallball guy, anyway. I like watching pitching and defense, and teams manufacturing runs rather than just relying on the home run. Steals, bunts, hit and runs. THAT's baseball the way it was meant to be played.

Home runs are just eye candy.
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Bunts blow. Steals are ok. Real small ball is working pitch counts and drawing walks. That's more fun to me.
 
bcl20 said:
Bunts blow. Steals are ok. Real small ball is working pitch counts and drawing walks. That's more fun to me.
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That's all a part of small ball. Sacrifices, steals, working pitch counts, hustling out every ground ball, etc. That's the way I always played, and that's how I like to see guys getting paid millions to do what I'd kill to do. There's nothing in my life that I miss more than baseball.
 
tm3308 said:
That's all a part of small ball. Sacrifices, steals, working pitch counts, hustling out every ground ball, etc. That's the way I always played, and that's how I like to see guys getting paid millions to do what I'd kill to do. There's nothing in my life that I miss more than baseball.
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In stead of arguing too much over it I will just agree with this part. Baseball is the best thing ever.
 
Baseball is a sport, like football, that you can't just have a pick up game or just go play. There has to be big time organization. I wish there were more wooden bat leagues around.
 
Igothawked said:
I have heard the same thing about Phil, although I have never met him. He did make a big ordeal out of the picture of him in his Masters jacket at Dunkin Donuts though. Although I kind of understand what his problem was. Should have rolled it into another sponsorship and more money for him, but that's beside the point.
I have met Tiger once, it was a while ago at the 2000 or 2001 old Western Open at Cog Hill in Chicagoland and he was very friendly. Hung out for a long time after his round, met with a bunch of fans and signed a bunch of autographs and was generally very nice. Now that was a long time ago in Tiger's life. I cannot atest to what he is like now. I also do know that Phil is not nearly as engaging with fans and nor as willing to sign autographs as Tiger was.
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I have see the both up close. I am a golf course superintendent here and when we had the Bob Hope Classic he complained and moan about the golf course because of the weather challenges it presented and vow never to return because of it. Now the couple of times I've come across Tiger, he's been nothing but a nice person and personable. I guess it all depends on each person.
 
:DI'm still waiting for a picture of tigers muscular body...

As far as baseball, Never been much of a fan. Maybe if I could tell the difference between the warm ups and the game, I'd like it better.
 
hawkfarmer said:
Baseball is a sport, like football, that you can't just have a pick up game or just go play. There has to be big time organization.
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My, how things have changed... for the worse.

As a kid, my neighborhood had pickup games every day, whatever sport was in season.
 
hawkfarmer said:
I've heard Zach Johnson is a dick on the course but great off the course. On the course these guys are trying to win, I don't have a problem with them being intense. Don't have to be dicks, but intense is what they should be.
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I've followed Zach around the course at a few tournaments. He does not interact with the crowd much, but I've never seen anything inappropriate toward fans.
 
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