I find this to be hilarious. I dislike Nebraska as much as the next guy, but Nebraska is going to cut through the B10 like a knife through butter.
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I find this to be hilarious. I dislike Nebraska as much as the next guy, but Nebraska is going to cut through the B10 like a knife through butter.
Chickenlounge
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kicker22
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Yeah, sorry but I've been lost since the initial bowling reference.
Weight x speed, running into an unmovable object. I am just pointing out, T-mart better be careful which games he decides to use his legs in. Rex is a good rb but has had to gain weight coming into the big 10, that will have some effect, it might be a very small effect, but you gotta figure his cut speed and even the way he carries the ball all have a stake in that. It's not like he has to totally relearn, but he will have to make adjustments.
Their "stellar" D is good. We know they can cover spread teams like Missery (or Northwestern) with ease, but in other games could not stop the run when they needed to. OK is not a "power" run team and Nebraska couldnt hadle that little bit of run football. Wiskey and Iowa are known to stop the run, which leaves T-mart stuck in the pocket, we know he gets happy feet when he has some pressure, but lacks the durability for Bo to give the nod for him to take off whenever he wants, if he does and T-mart goes down who fills in? Another freshman?. So they hand the ball off to Rex (who I discussed already), and that is the only proven back they have. You know how hard it is to go a whole season with one rb in the big ten. I cant recall off hand just now but it seems like they have another back that looks promising, then after that they are all way smaller (I beleive, look it up).
So I can see their O really struggling this year.
Their D is the best at covering the spread, Ah but so was Missery's, again cant recall for sure the number, but I think they were ranked pretty high on red zone D last year when Iowa played them, and we ran all over them. Yes the score was close, but come on they had Gabbert and a ton of receiving talent and were ranked WAY higher than us. Also we were down to 4th string in more than a couple spots. They could not stop the run or get the run established either. Now what happens when Wiskey, Iowa and Oh St, all know the weakness of not being able to stop the run? They run it, and pretty soon your LB's and safties ect, start getting banged up. I have heard Nebraska thinks they are pretty deep on D players, but none are used to playing 5 or 6 games a year against teams who like to pound the rock. So I could see their D slipping a little, I am not saying they are going to be horrible but will slip a little.
Another option is for Bo to go back to the spread. This takes the pressure off T-mart and turns Rex into an extra blocker and or reciever, but, how many teams in the big 10 run the spread? How many show up late in the year? Yes they make it to some crappy bowl game, but thats about it. Missery tried the spread on us and I would say had a better O than Nebraska. Nebraska beat Missery, cuz plain and simple Nebraska has one of the best secondaries there is at stopping the passing game. Yes they like to argue about T-mart running the ball and winning games, but come on guys lets be real Dennard or Locker is just as fast, it's not like people havent tried what Nebraska is trying.
There is that explained well enough?
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MultipleDundieAwardWinner
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Old Dude, your understanding of physics is very entertaining.
Really? You dont think physics has a role in all sports? Then I assume all golf instuctors will be out of bussiness as well as all pitching coaches, ect.
Why do you think when it's draft time they always talk about the mechanics of a player? They know exactly what the physics role plays in the way a player moves, blocks, throws, ect. I am sorry if you dont see it this way, but trust me, if you ever want to put money on a game, you better get used to the idea of breaking it all down to numbers.
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That's not what I said. Of course physics has a role in sports. Unfortunately, I can tell you do not understand physics, which makes the points you're trying to make, even the correct ones, really amusing.
GoHawks12345
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Other then people saying the word physics, I see little to no actual physics being discussed. Unless any reference to movement, weight, size, etc counts for talking "physics".
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Well, I think poor old dude tried to when he rolled out his "weight x speed" formula. I believe he was trying to express Newton's 2nd law, where force is equal to mass x accelration. Old dude errorniously (and hilariously) equated mass to weight and speed to acceleration.
Now, the argument is based on the principle of Newton's 3rd law, wherein a body in motion coming into contact with another body in motion with have an equal and oppsite reaction. The fallacy in this is that he equates acceleration with speed, when the two are very different. If speed is to be compared to anything, it should be velocity, because you need velocity to calculate acceleration. However, velocity is a vector, meaning that it measures more than just speed, it also measures direction. And in football, since it is rarely two bodies clashing head on, the velocity of the ball carrier and defender are much more important than the speed. Accelerating between vectors can seriously impede any potential force a potential defender may impose.
loesshillshawk
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Nebraska athletes have NOT FACED PHYSICAL ATHLETES WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT...guarantee the season takes a toll. Also Big12 was a spread out the field league...B1G is not totally that way...straight ahead smash mouth football...how did that bowl game go last year when Washington ran straight at you with great success!!!
GoHawks12345
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Now I see how you won all your dundies.
MoseSchrute
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I would like for you to be correct, but I have my doubts. I wonder if people might be over-emphasizing the whole conference difference thing. Both leagues have good, physical players. If they can be dangerous on offense, watch out. But if teams can lock down TM, and if he can't be an efficient passer, they will have problems. They also have serious turnover issues that they need to(but hopefully will not) solve.
HawkfaninWA
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No, no, no. This is entertainment.
To many issues to be a serious contender. T-mart is not known for his throwing ability, unless he greatly improves. Even if he did become a pocket passer, we are looking at a Persa type deal, where if he goes so goes the season. Rex can carry the ball, but will not have as good of luck in a conf where thats what teams do. I think their D keeps them close for awhile but by the end of the season they will be a few deep and thats not good either.
When you throw all that into your numbers, it just doesnt jive. Now I could be wrong, they may have a stud in waiting that comes out of now where but thats a pretty big ?
Oh and let us not forget all the new coaches and possible change in the O
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TecmoBowl
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Nebraska's scheme has been basically a 4-2-5 since Pelini has arrived at NU to account for 4 and even 5 WR looks of the Big 12.
The transition to the Big 10 means that very likely NU has a 3rd LB in the game on 90% of the snaps which would make a difference for the run defense instead of having an extra undersized hybrid guy on the field.
The transition to the Big 10 means that very likely NU has a 3rd LB in the game on 90% of the snaps which would make a difference for the run defense instead of having an extra undersized hybrid guy on the field.
Right so David, Compton and Fisher will all most likely contribute to this scheme. If any go down I would suspect mabey Whaley might step up. After that it's all unproven talent. I cant recall off hand, but I beleive one of them had a pretty serious injury last year. I suspect you will see going two deep in atleast 1 but possibly 2 line backer positions next year. There is really not enough to go on after that. Like I said there maybe a stud in waiting, but thats a pretty big if. And lets not forget, they all will have to step up big. Thier roles become alot larger in the new conf.
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ForeverHawk
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The only way T. Mart will be starting for Nebraska is if Bubba Starling does not make it to Campus this summer. I live in Gardner, KS and Bubba is the real deal and the best high school athlete I have ever seen! He has been electronically timed at 4.36, which I believe is faster than Martinez and he is 6'5". Unfortunately for Bugeater fans, Bubba is the number one high school baseball prospect in the country. He is rated the best athlete in this year's MLB draft and he is listed as the only true 5 tool outfielder in the draft, regardless of level. He will probably be a top 5 draft pick in June, get about a $6 million + signing bonus and not be on the Nebraska sidelines next year.
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Tangental to the current discussion but apropos to the over-all topic, is there a more worthless stat in football than measuring a 40 yard dash? There is hardly a scenario in football where one will need to run 40 yards in a straight line.
