Biggusblockus
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No question we should accept a bowl invite. To say otherwise is simply being dramatic.
This team is dead to me.
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ThunderHawk
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Bad timing. They just beat USC at USC.
ThunderHawk
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They should accept it. And we should feel free to abstain from watching them.
Biggusblockus
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I'll watch the game on TV - but instead of a cheering lunatic I will be a stoic, emotionless shell that chews gum and writes in a small notebook occasionally.
ThunderHawk
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I see what you did there...
tm3308
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Yeah, 'cause USC is a REAL world-beater this year. Please, their defense is AWFUL. Losing to Notre Dame says WAY more about USC than it does about the Irish.
tm3308
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Why, exactly, are you an Iowa fan? Good Lord.
ThunderHawk
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Because I graduated from Iowa, pay them thousands per year, and don't blindly accept mediocrity.
Why the hell are you?
ThunderHawk
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Our team just lost to a Minnesota team that was 0-6 at home.
I'd refrain from the trash talking of the Irish on this one.
tm3308
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If you don't want to support the program, then don't. But feel free to stop coming to message boards that are meant to be forums to discuss the team. Because you don't want to support them in any way, shape, or form.
tm3308
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The Irish are still awful. USC is average. Which pretty much makes your "bad timing" comment irrelevant. Beating an average USC team (bad by USC standards), doesn't show any kind of improvement on the Irish's part.
ThunderHawk
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tm3308
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As long as there is even just ONE player who didn't quit, who gutted it out, who gave it their all no matter what, we owe it to that one player to support them. And there were a few players who gave it everything they had yesterday. Didn't look like many, but there were a few.
ThunderHawk
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Yeah. DJK. McNutt. Those two always show up. They'd show up even more if the moronic offensive schemers would get the ball in their hands on a more regular basis.
I'm way more disgusted with the coaches than I am with any of the players.
tm3308
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So don't watch the game for the coaches. Support DJK and McNutt. Add Robinson to the list if he plays in the Bowl, as well as Reisner, Coker, and Morse.
Yeah, you're "supporting the coaches" by watching. But it's better to give a benefit to the unworthy (in your opinion) than to shortchange those who deserve the benefit.
HawksFlyHigh
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Yes, which led me to the belief that Ferentz lost the team this year with his approach that was obviosly not working.
We kept losing the same way and wouldn't adjust.
Players start to tune you out if you keep preaching something that proves to be ineffective and not changing it up or adapting.
tweeterhawk
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Do you honestly think extending this season one more month to play in a minor bowl is going to cure one thing that's wrong with this program? I sure don't. It appears that KF has lost the team, at least the senior leadership. So why reward mediocrity in play, effort and commitment? That's the same rigid, inside-the-box, "we've always done it that way" thinking that led U.S. automakers to continue pushing sub-standard products at the consumer, and ultimately led to the demise of many of them.
Iowa fans have traveled well in the past, but after this season I'm not so sure there won't be a considerable drop-off.
It's time to re-tool, it seems to me. Send the message to the returning players and incoming freshmen that this team is all about competing, that no one is guaranteed a starting spot or to even see the field, regardless of their class seniority. Make the changes that are needed now: staffing, offensive and defensive philosphies, schemes, recruiting focus.
The 2011 season began when the final horn sounded in Minneapolis.
NewMexHawk
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The coaching staff lost the team after the Ohio St game...
HerkyDog
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Hmmm... what happened in Bloomington and Evanston, then. Seems like a lot of folks here are surprised this happened in Minneapolis. I am not at all. I was in Bloomington for the first "yawner".
We will never know what happened to this year's team, but they were obviously rudderless after MSU.
The athletic dept. ran with the high expectations thing, but KF never acknowledged the expectations. It seems there was a disconnect from the beginning of the year from the top of the athletic dept. to the coaching staff to the players. The team saw incredible expectations swirling around them, but not from the coaching staff. I don't know if this played a part, but it seemed that this team was never really in sync. A pity.
As far as boycotting bowl games and all that nonsense, it's just not going to happen. I understand the anger, but in the end, athletics for most of us is entertainment, and in the large scope of things, not that important. Shouldn't have to ruin a perfectly good holiday season without seeing a little Black and Gold on the tube.
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One more reason Iowa would never turn down a bowl invite like ND did a few years ago is because the B10 wouldn't allow it.
Remember the B10 gets half of Iowa's bowl payout. Those bowl payouts from all teams are then split between all 11 teams.
To the original poster, Iowa isn't dead to me. I'll still root for them in the bowl game, particularly guys who play hard like DJK and guys who have taken responsibility like Stanzi. But in a way you are correct, this team is dead.
Remember the B10 gets half of Iowa's bowl payout. Those bowl payouts from all teams are then split between all 11 teams.
To the original poster, Iowa isn't dead to me. I'll still root for them in the bowl game, particularly guys who play hard like DJK and guys who have taken responsibility like Stanzi. But in a way you are correct, this team is dead.
