this explains somt things

[imported_ankle23]

Juicing doesn't help you hit the ball. It might give you more distance on your hits, more power. But it doesn't improve your hand-eye coordination. Which is why Bonds' numbers were off the charts. He had great plate discipline and great hand-eye coordination. You pair that with more bat speed, and your numbers are bound to improve.

you ever juiced?

 

[woodyk1]

Bartolo Colon, come on down......

Yikes! This guy!

 

[imported_ankle23]

Yikes! This guy!

maybe a reason yanks didn't resign him after last year. or maybe that was totally contract related. he had a pretty good year with them.

 

[woodyk1]

maybe a reason yanks didn't resign him after last year. or maybe that was totally contract related. he had a pretty good year with them.

I was referring to the fact that he is referred to as 'Big Fat' Bartolo Colon on podcasts I listen to.

Also, I think the fact the players on PEDs are not necessarily muscle heads now show that just looking at someone (ala Mark McGwire, etc.) is not an indicator of someone on the juice. Remember, Marlon Byrd was popped earlier this year too. Of course, Byrd was tested positive for tamoxifen, a drug used for breast cancer treatment. If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!

Marlon Byrd, a Victor Conte client, suspended for tamoxifen

 

[imported_ankle23]

I was referring to the fact that he is referred to as 'Big Fat' Bartolo Colon on podcasts I listen to.

Also, I think the fact the players on PEDs are not necessarily muscle heads now show that just looking at someone (ala Mark McGwire, etc.) is not an indicator of someone on the juice. Remember, Marlon Byrd was popped earlier this year too. Of course, Byrd was tested positive for tamoxifen, a drug used for breast cancer treatment. If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'!

Marlon Byrd, a Victor Conte client, suspended for tamoxifen

yeah, i hear ya. he (colon) had elbow issues and i think these guys are willing to risk something like this for a possible year or two extension to their career, given they are on the deep backside of it.

 

[woodyk1]

yeah, i hear ya. he (colon) had elbow issues and i think these guys are willing to risk something like this for a possible year or two extension to their career, given they are on the deep backside of it.

Totally agree. If you can get an extra year and make some $$$, they take the chance.

 

[imported_ankle23]

Totally agree. If you can get an extra year and make some $$$, they take the chance.

and these guys from other countries are harder to test given their countries. see jamaica. so they can juice, power up, speed up, in the off season in the comfort and protection of their own country. once they come back one of their two tests are announced. so they figure if they are going to be tested probably twice, and one is announced, then roll the dice....