The Talent Myth

Joshbrown

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Gair should've started ahead of Taylor

Mo Fleming (who has proved himself at West Virginia) should've started ahead of Mabin

Ekakitie should've started ahead of Bazata

At least one guy (Mends?) should've started ahead of Bowers or at the very least shared time with him.

That's 4 men just on defense where the coaches played the wrong guy. And those are just the most recent ones, and the ones that are obvious. I'm sure over the last 18 years there are many more we will never know about.

Well I've been getting schooled on how Michigan is loaded with talent and Iowa isn't. Actually that's not true. Michigan is just better at using their talent to their advantage. Jake Rudock is an example of this. So is Michigan's use of Peppers vs Kirk's lack of imagination with King. Much of Iowa's talent sits on the bench or becomes a starter at the end of their career rather than near the beginning. Kirk is like 7-5 against Michigan. And that record isn't because he has anything in common with Urban Meyer. It's because the overall talent among the 24 starters is close to equivalent.

Now on offense.

In 2012 Vandy is on an epic losing streak. Now I don't fault Bear-Killer 100% but why not sit him at least for a half and see what Weinke or someone else can do? Stubbornness born out of ego or lack of imagination is why.

In 2014 CJB should've been awarded the starting job after the faux competition between JR and CJB. Also in 2014, the coaches could've found a way to give Willies more of a chance which might've kept him at Iowa. And that could've made him a person to pick up the slack in a year like this one where we need WR talent.

This year the O-line gets shuffled around as Brian tries to figure out who should start. Of course his brother has to be listed on the depth chart every week. How much more transparent can the Ferentz family be?

2015 Daniels is the starter ahead of Canzeri. While I luv Daniels, Canzeri was the better back and should've been named starter.

2016 Jerminic Smith is a starter, but what has he shown? I would rather have Mitchell at WR then Smith. But he's being short-changed for some odd reason in the same way Gair/Fleming/Ekakitie/Canzeri/etc. were short-changed.

What about Kulick. He seems to be a talent. Why not use that talent?

Those are just some examples among the players. Now let's talk coaches.

Kirk hires an OC who got fired at Texas. Really? Kirk couldn't find someone who wasn't unemployed or recently fired? Right after he was hired the Texas fans invade Hawkeye message boards and warn us what is about to happen. Were they wrong? And why didn't anyone at Iowa notice how these rank amateurs nailed GD's talent level. And speaking of best options, it smells kinda bad when guys like Soup aren't good enough for Iowa - even though he had a long impressive resume - and a guy with a much shorter resume named Ferentz is brought in and rapidly becomes among the highest paid on Kirk's staff.

Overall Kirk has struggled to attract and keep awesome assistants, just as he has struggled to put the best 24 starters on the field. I think it's fair to assume Kirk's evaluation skills are not as good as others at his paygrade. And for this reason, and a staggering lack of imagination on offense, Iowa will always win less games than they should.

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DJK said in his statement that he only played because he was really productive. If he was only a little better than his backup, he would have never seen the field. Not because he made mistakes. Not because he wasn't as talented. Not because he had a bad attitude. But because Kirk didn't like his personality.

Now think about all the questionable personel decisions he's made over the years and think about the personality of the kid who won the job and the personality of the kid who lost the race. It's pretty obvious that he picks close races (and close may be a loose term) based on who he likes better as a person. Wadley and Daniels is a great example of what I'm talking about.
 
One thing for sure, when a team loses high profile recruits like this year, the talent issue is going to be real.
That out of the way Josh, what is known is that top programs have more depth. Listened to Dino Babers once on his way to the FCS Championship. Said he could actually put 22 players on the field that could be quite competitive even in the Big Ten. The problem is that injuries happen and the drop off in the 2nd team is quite stark. Iowa does have depth issues (ISU for certain can compete at times early in the season before dropping off). Not playing the right players does compound things. This has been a problem since the days of Brad Banks.

I do think that the combo of KFs personality and low ranked recruits leads to practices being overdone to try and get perfection at the cost of developing the 2nd and 3rd team players. When guys step in it is quite noticeable that they are not ready and in sync with starters.
 
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In which area is Kirk the strongest?

Developing QBs?

Game time clock management?

Creative play calling?

Cutting edge recruiting philosophy?

Managing the talent that gets on the field?

In game note taking with a crayola?
 
In which area is Kirk the strongest?

Developing QBs?

Game time clock management?

Creative play calling?

Cutting edge recruiting philosophy?

Managing the talent that gets on the field?

In game note taking with a crayola?


What - no poll?
 
Gair should've started ahead of Taylor

Mo Fleming (who has proved himself at West Virginia) should've started ahead of Mabin

Ekakitie should've started ahead of Bazata

At least one guy (Mends?) should've started ahead of Bowers or at the very least shared time with him.

That's 4 men just on defense where the coaches played the wrong guy. And those are just the most recent ones, and the ones that are obvious. I'm sure over the last 18 years there are many more we will never know about.

Well I've been getting schooled on how Michigan is loaded with talent and Iowa isn't. Actually that's not true. Michigan is just better at using their talent to their advantage. Jake Rudock is an example of this. So is Michigan's use of Peppers vs Kirk's lack of imagination with King. Much of Iowa's talent sits on the bench or becomes a starter at the end of their career rather than near the beginning. Kirk is like 7-5 against Michigan. And that record isn't because he has anything in common with Urban Meyer. It's because the overall talent among the 24 starters is close to equivalent.

Now on offense.

In 2012 Vandy is on an epic losing streak. Now I don't fault Bear-Killer 100% but why not sit him at least for a half and see what Weinke or someone else can do? Stubbornness born out of ego or lack of imagination is why.

In 2014 CJB should've been awarded the starting job after the faux competition between JR and CJB. Also in 2014, the coaches could've found a way to give Willies more of a chance which might've kept him at Iowa. And that could've made him a person to pick up the slack in a year like this one where we need WR talent.

This year the O-line gets shuffled around as Brian tries to figure out who should start. Of course his brother has to be listed on the depth chart every week. How much more transparent can the Ferentz family be?

2015 Daniels is the starter ahead of Canzeri. While I luv Daniels, Canzeri was the better back and should've been named starter.

2016 Jerminic Smith is a starter, but what has he shown? I would rather have Mitchell at WR then Smith. But he's being short-changed for some odd reason in the same way Gair/Fleming/Ekakitie/Canzeri/etc. were short-changed.

What about Kulick. He seems to be a talent. Why not use that talent?

Those are just some examples among the players. Now let's talk coaches.

Kirk hires an OC who got fired at Texas. Really? Kirk couldn't find someone who wasn't unemployed or recently fired? Right after he was hired the Texas fans invade Hawkeye message boards and warn us what is about to happen. Were they wrong? And why didn't anyone at Iowa notice how these rank amateurs nailed GD's talent level. And speaking of best options, it smells kinda bad when guys like Soup aren't good enough for Iowa - even though he had a long impressive resume - and a guy with a much shorter resume named Ferentz is brought in and rapidly becomes among the highest paid on Kirk's staff.

Overall Kirk has struggled to attract and keep awesome assistants, just as he has struggled to put the best 24 starters on the field. I think it's fair to assume Kirk's evaluation skills are not as good as others at his paygrade. And for this reason, and a staggering lack of imagination on offense, Iowa will always win less games than they should.

NOW:
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Like I said, I laugh at everything you post. Even when you're trying to be serious. (you weren't being serious on this post, were you?). You're the biggest clown on this site. This is what you sound like to us when you post....
 
Like I said, I laugh at everything you post. Even when you're trying to be serious. (you weren't being serious on this post, were you?). You're the biggest clown on this site. This is what you sound like to us when you post....

Funny thing is you aren't funny anymore. Learn the game.
 
Like I said, I laugh at everything you post. Even when you're trying to be serious. (you weren't being serious on this post, were you?). You're the biggest clown on this site. This is what you sound like to us when you post....

You've got to love CA!! Can't stop laughing.
 
Anymore ? that would imply he was once funny. he's "funny" but was never funny.
L O L

You have a point. He has gone from ridiculous and almost funny because of being ridiculous to to just being insulting. Calling out 20 year old kids is just wrong. KF is fair game.
 
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