bcl20
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I don't know but for some reason all the entertaining trolls got banned but this idiot gets to still post here.
The Selection Committee
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I don't know but for some reason all the entertaining trolls got banned but this idiot gets to still post here.
From the beginning of this article - updated today.
College Basketball Bubble Watch - It's Christmas Eve on the bubble -- will it be presents or coal for these teams? - NCAA Men's Basketball - ESPN
"The biggest litmus test for selection committee dogma -- for the predictable nexus of RPI, SOS, nonconference schedule and performance against the various nitty-gritty rankings breakdowns (top 50, top 100 and so on) that have made bracket selection a relatively predictable affair -- will be the Iowa Hawkeyes. The Hawks lost to Michigan State in a close game Friday and were the victims of a few questionable calls down the stretch. They were also one of the 40 or so best teams in the country by just about every metric except the RPI, and their performance -- even if you are relying on sketchy criteria like conference record (9-9 in the Big Ten), per-possession statistics (the Hawks play top-20 efficiency defense) or even the infamous "eye test" -- make the Hawkeyes look like a much better team than a handful of more staid bubble contenders.
Because the committee relies so heavily on RPI, nonconference scheduling and all the rest, it appears more likely than not that Iowa won't get in, despite its obvious quality. But the committee has surprised us before. You just never know. And that's what makes the final 24 hours before Selection Sunday such a weirdly thrilling experience."
Also, something I posted on another thread - quote from a form selection committee member:
HARRIS: Before the Madness: A peek at NCAA tourney selection process - Washington Times
"The most important thing he emphasized is the human element is very important even with all the computer models that exist today. If picking the field was simply a matter of going by what the computers say, a couple of third graders could do it at recess. The myriad numbers are just a guideline.
“That is the greatest thing, that humans are making the decisions. There’s always another opinion,†Kvancz said. “All those numbers cloud the issues sometimes. Everyone is so close. The truth of the matter is you have to have the human element. You have pretty good people on the committee who have some basketball knowledge who can make those decisions."
I think NIT is the reality because that non-conf stat stands out, and may be too much to overcome.
But, in the end I'm hoping we get in over Boise St, or Middle Tenn. They could use our KenPom (up to 29 now), and other metrics, to justify that choice, perhaps.
College Basketball Bubble Watch - It's Christmas Eve on the bubble -- will it be presents or coal for these teams? - NCAA Men's Basketball - ESPN
"The biggest litmus test for selection committee dogma -- for the predictable nexus of RPI, SOS, nonconference schedule and performance against the various nitty-gritty rankings breakdowns (top 50, top 100 and so on) that have made bracket selection a relatively predictable affair -- will be the Iowa Hawkeyes. The Hawks lost to Michigan State in a close game Friday and were the victims of a few questionable calls down the stretch. They were also one of the 40 or so best teams in the country by just about every metric except the RPI, and their performance -- even if you are relying on sketchy criteria like conference record (9-9 in the Big Ten), per-possession statistics (the Hawks play top-20 efficiency defense) or even the infamous "eye test" -- make the Hawkeyes look like a much better team than a handful of more staid bubble contenders.
Because the committee relies so heavily on RPI, nonconference scheduling and all the rest, it appears more likely than not that Iowa won't get in, despite its obvious quality. But the committee has surprised us before. You just never know. And that's what makes the final 24 hours before Selection Sunday such a weirdly thrilling experience."
Also, something I posted on another thread - quote from a form selection committee member:
HARRIS: Before the Madness: A peek at NCAA tourney selection process - Washington Times
"The most important thing he emphasized is the human element is very important even with all the computer models that exist today. If picking the field was simply a matter of going by what the computers say, a couple of third graders could do it at recess. The myriad numbers are just a guideline.
“That is the greatest thing, that humans are making the decisions. There’s always another opinion,†Kvancz said. “All those numbers cloud the issues sometimes. Everyone is so close. The truth of the matter is you have to have the human element. You have pretty good people on the committee who have some basketball knowledge who can make those decisions."
I think NIT is the reality because that non-conf stat stands out, and may be too much to overcome.
But, in the end I'm hoping we get in over Boise St, or Middle Tenn. They could use our KenPom (up to 29 now), and other metrics, to justify that choice, perhaps.
dwh5er
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Great question. Why does he constantly come here to seek our validation for his team and put down our team? If I knew Iowa was a better team, I wouldn't have to go try to prove it on another team's message board.
IMHO, he's trying to get a response from Diesel.
83Hawk
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Never once did I say Minnesota was a good team.
You are conveniently ignoring the point I was making....and twisting the rest. But you are entitled to your opinion just the same.
hawkforlife9
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I think we're in. BIG dominates.
WindsorHawk
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What if every head coach in the Big Ten were polled right this minute and asked if they would rather play Minnesota or Iowa on a neutral court today for a bid to the NCAA tournament? Win the game and you make the tournament. Lose the game and you don't make the tournament. I honestly believe the vote would be 9-0 that every head coach would rather play Minnesota...not counting the coaches of the respective schools.
Ask this same question of any 9 objective and neutral head coaches in college basketball comparing Iowa and each bubble team one by one and I have to believe Iowa would be playing in fewer games than most of the other bubble teams and would certainly make the cut for the tournament.
This is passing more than the eyeball test IMO. Heck, I bet even Active Badger will admit he would rather see Wisconsin playing Minnesota than Iowa on a neutral court today if Wisconsin had to win to make the Dance. I'm not saying we will make it...just some food for thought as the hour of reckoning approaches.
Ask this same question of any 9 objective and neutral head coaches in college basketball comparing Iowa and each bubble team one by one and I have to believe Iowa would be playing in fewer games than most of the other bubble teams and would certainly make the cut for the tournament.
This is passing more than the eyeball test IMO. Heck, I bet even Active Badger will admit he would rather see Wisconsin playing Minnesota than Iowa on a neutral court today if Wisconsin had to win to make the Dance. I'm not saying we will make it...just some food for thought as the hour of reckoning approaches.
No, Minnesotey is NOT a good basketball team. They used to be a good team until they took 2 months off. Frickin idiots.
WindsorHawk
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And then win a game or 2 to prove it was the right decision...
All programs well know that the NCAA selection committee has made it clear in the past that "body of work" still trumps a team's performance in a few game/s toward the end of the season.
Turn the clock back one year..............three of the four No. 1 seeds in last year's NCAA basketball tournament, and six of the top eight teams, were awarded their favored status Sunday despite losing in their conference tournaments. Meanwhile, tournament champions from power conferences such as the ACC, SEC and Big East were relegated to third seeds or worse.
Turn the clock back one year..............three of the four No. 1 seeds in last year's NCAA basketball tournament, and six of the top eight teams, were awarded their favored status Sunday despite losing in their conference tournaments. Meanwhile, tournament champions from power conferences such as the ACC, SEC and Big East were relegated to third seeds or worse.
