The problem with Trump

[NCHawker]

Lets not confuse greed with acting in self interest. Lets not confuse lust with a healthy sex drive and gluttony with normal hunger / thirst. Lets not confuse envy with a healthy sense of justice. Too often we use these words intergaibly.

 

[PCHawk]

this one was more tame than the previous polical thread. wondering if anyone has changed political partys after reading all of this. has any one at least taken the time to consider and acknowledge anothers POV, even if you disagree?

Now that's a funny joke.

 

[PCHawk]

Yup. Attack with personal insults. Ignore factual material. Much easier that way. And, highly utilized these days…

You're telling us your playbook like we don't already know it.

 

[guffus]

I find the debates useful when one of the candidates seems too old, overwhelmed or just plain out of it to be president.

The first1984 debate between Mondale and Reagan was useful because it was a good predicter of Reagan's coming problems with Alzheimer's. The 2nd 1984 debate was useful because it showed what Reagan was like when he was his normal self. Reagan's 2nd term was a combo of both versions. Reagan had his good days and he had his not-so-good days throughout his 2nd term.

The first (and only) 2024 debate between Trump and Biden was useful because everybody could clearly see how much Biden had deteriated. Democrats clearly saw it as a sign they had to move quickly and replace Biden. The following debate between Harris and Trump was useful just to show that Harris was not an old, confused, man.

 

[PCHawk]

I find the debates useful when one of the candidates seems too old, overwhelmed or just plain out of it to be president.

The first1984 debate between Mondale and Reagan was useful because it was a good predicter of Reagan's coming problems with Alzheimer's. The 2nd 1984 debate was useful because it showed what Reagan was like when he was his normal self. Reagan's 2nd term was a combo of both versions. Reagan had his good days and he had his not-so-good days throughout his 2nd term.

The first (and only) 2024 debate between Trump and Biden was useful because everybody could clearly see how much Biden had deteriated. Democrats clearly saw it as a sign they had to move quickly and replace Biden. The following debate between Harris and Trump was useful just to show that Harris was not an old, confused, man.

Biden showed he deteriorated well before that debate. Maybe the people who don't follow politics at all didn't know yet. But your sentence " democrats clearly saw it as a sign and had to move quickly" doesn't really make sense because it suggests all those people had no interactions with Biden so we're surprised by the debate. The people who moved quickly clearly knew Biden's condition beforehand.

 

[guffus]

Biden showed he deteriorated well before that debate. Maybe the people who don't follow politics at all didn't know yet. But your sentence " democrats clearly saw it as a sign and had to move quickly" doesn't really make sense because it suggests all those people had no interactions with Biden so we're surprised by the debate. The people who moved quickly clearly knew Biden's condition beforehand.

Yes, but Biden's debate performance was historically bad. Democrats were hoping if Biden got a good night's sleep, maybe he could look adequate enough. But visually it was just awful, even though not all his answers were bad, but the Medicare gaff was puzzling. It did not matter that Trump told one lie after another. Biden was ready for the nursing home and everybody knew it.

 

[HuckFinn]

Yes, but Biden's debate performance was historically bad. Democrats were hoping if Biden got a good night's sleep, maybe he could look adequate enough. But visually it was just awful, even though not all his answers were bad, but the Medicare gaff was puzzling. It did not matter that Trump told one lie after another. Biden was ready for the nursing home and everybody knew it.

And, we owe Joe a huge debt for his contributions over many years. Yeah. I did not agree with some of his decisions. But who the hell am I?