Mac50702
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I think the sport you're looking for is Lacrosse.
The NCAA needs to pay the players!
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I think the sport you're looking for is Lacrosse.
NewMexHawk
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No a scholarship is not taken away from a kid with an academic scholarship unless he/she does not meet the standards. They must maintain a particularly high GPA in order to keep that scholarship, which means they also have to study, study, study long hours and may not have time for a 20-hour a week job? Their job, like that of athletes, is to maintain their GPA. Many think that an athlete's job is playing football/bb. They spend many hours practicing but do you think these "student" athletes spend 40 to 60 hours a weeks studying like an academic scholarship student? And yes, these kids can spend that many hours a week easily studying after taking a tough course load.
Saying a kid can lose his scholarship for taking gift is too bad. The kids who accepts sports scholarships KNOW the rules prior to taking that scholarship. It is up to them to honor those rules. Are people saying these poor athletes just don't have the will NOT to cheat and break the rules?
Could it be that many of the athletes receiving the scholarships DON'T want to be in college? That they never wanted to go to college and study? The ONLY reason they are in college is to try to get to the NBA/NFL? Well, that is the way the present system works and the kids are expected to follow rules. These kids are given an incredible opportunity and if they don't want to follow the rules then too bad, they should have their scholarships removed.
I'm sorry that some athletes don't have money to go to bars with their friends. I knew many students that didn't have money to do a lot of stuff that other kids got to do. You know...THAT is life.
If a college can give spending money to athletes, why can't the school give spending money to ALL students so they can also have more fun? Many of you could care less if poor students GET to have fun...just the poor athletes like those who get to experience playing fb in Big 10 stadiums in front of 80,000 fans, compete for national titles, get to travel and go to bowl games. I would say that is getting to do a lot more than poor students who study hard, work jobs, borrow a great deal of money, and pay their bills just so they can STAY in school to get their degrees.
To start giving athletes money opens a huge can of worms. Even if schools give kids "spending" money, how many will STILL accept gifts/money from boosters? What makes anyone think that many of these kids will stop accepting gifts/money...that stuff will still be there for the athletes to take.
That is the way it is...there are rules attached to kids accepting $100,000 (or more) scholarships from a school. These kids are basically the same as many kids who go to college. If a college athlete COULD get jobs WHAT kind of jobs would they get? With all the boosters out there that some claim are willing to just give gifts, how would a booster NOT offer fb/bb players a "special" job...similar to the Oklahoma situation years ago when players were making great money to do nothing but sit around. How many non-athletes students or academic students get THOSE kinds of jobs. That system would be greatly abused by many boosters and athletes.
If these kids don't think they can go to college, not keep their word, or not be able to keep from cheating then perhaps THOSE kids should not accept the scholarship in the first place. Sometimes life is just a b!tch and sometimes you just have to follow the rules. Don't we all?
How can you feel sorry for a kid because he/she has received a college scholarship that is worth SO MUCH money but yet THESE KIDS and boosters believe that fb/bb athletes DESERVE more, including having money handed to them so they can go out to bars at night?
If FB/BB players were not involved would boosters even care about the rest of the sports programs and how those kids are doing in college or whether THEY have spending money? If boosters/fans had their way they would ONLY pay fb/bb players and the rest of the men's/women's teams could go jump in a lake couldn't they, because fb/bb players are SO much more special.
These kids have been fawned over and made to feel special their entire lives (or since they became fb/bb heroes). Isn't it about time these kids learn to abide by rules like everyone else in society? If they can't they shouldn't be going to college AND THAT is the real reason they received their scholarship...to go to college. To make excuses for kids that break the rules because they had NO intention of abiding by the rules in the first place is just that...excuses.
Do you really think that the osu players that have been caught cheating didn't think they would cheat (although they would not have used that term) before they got to osu? Don't you think that these kids KNEW they would be treated EXTRA special and that they believed that they DESERVED to be treated EXTRA special?
Then they get caught cheating and boosters/fans make excuses about how poorly treated these kids are...that the only reason they took the gifts/money was because they were poor. THEY KNEW the rules and broke the rules willingly. Are some of you saying that these poor poor athletes don't have the will to refuse accepting gifts OR is it a case where athletes THINK and BELIEVE they DESERVE the gifts and money because of WHO they are? After all they are so special aren't they?
Plus many of the athletes don't take very strenuous majors. If they were taking more strenuous majors to prepare themselves for after college when they DON'T make the NFL/NBA they would be studying in the evenings all they could instead of going out, like many other students. These kids are given a golden opportunity in life and many just pi$$ their opportunity away. But THAT is their problem and some people just have to learn the hard way.
Saying a kid can lose his scholarship for taking gift is too bad. The kids who accepts sports scholarships KNOW the rules prior to taking that scholarship. It is up to them to honor those rules. Are people saying these poor athletes just don't have the will NOT to cheat and break the rules?
Could it be that many of the athletes receiving the scholarships DON'T want to be in college? That they never wanted to go to college and study? The ONLY reason they are in college is to try to get to the NBA/NFL? Well, that is the way the present system works and the kids are expected to follow rules. These kids are given an incredible opportunity and if they don't want to follow the rules then too bad, they should have their scholarships removed.
I'm sorry that some athletes don't have money to go to bars with their friends. I knew many students that didn't have money to do a lot of stuff that other kids got to do. You know...THAT is life.
If a college can give spending money to athletes, why can't the school give spending money to ALL students so they can also have more fun? Many of you could care less if poor students GET to have fun...just the poor athletes like those who get to experience playing fb in Big 10 stadiums in front of 80,000 fans, compete for national titles, get to travel and go to bowl games. I would say that is getting to do a lot more than poor students who study hard, work jobs, borrow a great deal of money, and pay their bills just so they can STAY in school to get their degrees.
To start giving athletes money opens a huge can of worms. Even if schools give kids "spending" money, how many will STILL accept gifts/money from boosters? What makes anyone think that many of these kids will stop accepting gifts/money...that stuff will still be there for the athletes to take.
That is the way it is...there are rules attached to kids accepting $100,000 (or more) scholarships from a school. These kids are basically the same as many kids who go to college. If a college athlete COULD get jobs WHAT kind of jobs would they get? With all the boosters out there that some claim are willing to just give gifts, how would a booster NOT offer fb/bb players a "special" job...similar to the Oklahoma situation years ago when players were making great money to do nothing but sit around. How many non-athletes students or academic students get THOSE kinds of jobs. That system would be greatly abused by many boosters and athletes.
If these kids don't think they can go to college, not keep their word, or not be able to keep from cheating then perhaps THOSE kids should not accept the scholarship in the first place. Sometimes life is just a b!tch and sometimes you just have to follow the rules. Don't we all?
How can you feel sorry for a kid because he/she has received a college scholarship that is worth SO MUCH money but yet THESE KIDS and boosters believe that fb/bb athletes DESERVE more, including having money handed to them so they can go out to bars at night?
If FB/BB players were not involved would boosters even care about the rest of the sports programs and how those kids are doing in college or whether THEY have spending money? If boosters/fans had their way they would ONLY pay fb/bb players and the rest of the men's/women's teams could go jump in a lake couldn't they, because fb/bb players are SO much more special.
These kids have been fawned over and made to feel special their entire lives (or since they became fb/bb heroes). Isn't it about time these kids learn to abide by rules like everyone else in society? If they can't they shouldn't be going to college AND THAT is the real reason they received their scholarship...to go to college. To make excuses for kids that break the rules because they had NO intention of abiding by the rules in the first place is just that...excuses.
Do you really think that the osu players that have been caught cheating didn't think they would cheat (although they would not have used that term) before they got to osu? Don't you think that these kids KNEW they would be treated EXTRA special and that they believed that they DESERVED to be treated EXTRA special?
Then they get caught cheating and boosters/fans make excuses about how poorly treated these kids are...that the only reason they took the gifts/money was because they were poor. THEY KNEW the rules and broke the rules willingly. Are some of you saying that these poor poor athletes don't have the will to refuse accepting gifts OR is it a case where athletes THINK and BELIEVE they DESERVE the gifts and money because of WHO they are? After all they are so special aren't they?
Plus many of the athletes don't take very strenuous majors. If they were taking more strenuous majors to prepare themselves for after college when they DON'T make the NFL/NBA they would be studying in the evenings all they could instead of going out, like many other students. These kids are given a golden opportunity in life and many just pi$$ their opportunity away. But THAT is their problem and some people just have to learn the hard way.
HawkeyeMike23
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If either the Autry or Bloom examples were allowed, it would end any chance Iowa has of ever winning a national title. Some booster at USC could make a movie staring a bunch of five star recruits, pay them each $150,000 for it and it would be legal. If players can get endorsements, then what's going to stop Phil Knight from suddenly offering endorsement deals to every big time recruit Oregon is after.
